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Hello, I am soon going to build my gaming pc but I now have 4 options. I will be mostly gaming but workstation capabilities are appreciated as I may make videos etc sometimes. I will provide below firstly the specs that are sane to all options and then in each option the parts that are different. Please tell me which one you would select (a,b,c,d) despite you may disagree with these parts and then if you want to note anything such as a different suggestion, no problem. But please select one of these options. All options are almost the same price (+/- 15€). Lastly, I already own the gpu and I am not sure if I will upgrade soon, generally not sure if I will upgrade anything in the future.
Specs (these that are same in all options):
Case: Coolermaster H500
Gou: Gigabyte Gtx 1060 6Gb
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
Psu: Corsair Rm750x (2018)
Extras: 1×200mm rgb fan (mf200r rgb)
Options:
A) Ryzen 7 2700, 32gb ram, msi x470 gaming pro carbon, BeQuiet dark rock 4 pro
B) Ryzen 7 3700x, 16gb ram, Msi x570 gaming edge wifi , wraith prism (included in cpu)
C) ryzen 7 3700x, 16gb ram, Msi b450 tomahawk max, BeQuiet dark rock 4 pro
D)Ryzen 7 3700x, 32gb ram, msi b450 tomahawk max, wraith prism (included in cpu)

So, which one would you choose? Although in the b,c and d options the cpu is better I am not sure if I will see difference with Gtx 1060. But greater cpu is good. What about mobo and cooler? Ram is not that necessary to be 32gb but whatever. Please help. Thx in advance...
 

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Ok. I thought one more option: Ryzen 5 3600, 16gb ram, msi x570 gaming pro carbon and bequiet dark rock 4 pro.
The cpu dark rock cooler is really optional and dont sacrifice performance for this. All ryzen cpu's come with a stock cooler that is enough to run the cpu with stocks speed or light overclock. Also a 270 euros motherboard like carbon seems to me pointless to run with a Ryzen 5 3600 you can do this even with an 50 euros A320 motherboard and get the same level of performance. This will be your best option:
Ryzen 7 3700x, 16gb ram, Gigabyte X570 Aorus elite , wraith prism (included in cpu)
 
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32gb ram might be too much for what you need now days, a super cooler is nice, older boards would been a bios flash to work with the cpu though.

If you have ample cooling in your case (msi x570 runs bit hot, different brand maybe? ), I see no problems with B
 
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32gb ram might be too much for what you need now days, a super cooler is nice, older boards would been a bios flash to work with the cpu though.

If you have ample cooling in your case (msi x570 runs bit hot, different brand maybe? ), I see no problems with B
So, what's better: B or C? B: super cooler and worse mobo (b450) or stock cooler and better mobo [x570 with all of its features (pcie 4.0 etc)]???
Thanks for your advice...
 

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Unlike 400 series motherboards that MSI have the top motherboards with 500 series its another story. This MSI X570 get really hot the vrm's and the board itself unlike other 200$ price range X570 motherboards. What is the total budget? This is the best review that include 200$ range X570 including the MSI one.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PkZwY9PWM&t=759s
Ok. So I forget about the Msi mpg x570 gaming edge wifi. I can either get the Gigabyte Aorus elite or a B450 (like Max) ryzen 3000 compatible. But which of these 4 options would you choose? Just tell me that. It's really helpful to see what others would choose. Thx again!
 

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Ok. So I forget about the Msi mpg x570 gaming edge wifi. I can either get the Gigabyte Aorus elite or a B450 (like Max) ryzen 3000 compatible. But which of these 4 options would you choose? Just tell me that. It's really helpful to see what others would choose. Thx again!
Α) Ryzen 7 3700x, 16gb ram, Gigabyte X570 Aorus elite , wraith prism (included in cpu)
Β) ryzen 7 3700x, 16gb ram or 32gb ram, Msi b450 tomahawk max, wraith prism (included in cpu)

Both motherboards are more than enough for your cpu to run even overclocked. You picked already an nvme drive that is PCI-e gen 3.0. The mostly reason to buy an X570 right now is the PCI-e gen 4.0 for 4.0 nvme drives do you really believe that you will need that? Also do you believe that you will need that 32GB of ram? For gaming 16gb is more than enough and for many workloads also there is always the option to upgrade to 32 later. If you want to save some money then go for the B option that i listed with 16GB of ram the performance will be the same anyway.
 
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Α) Ryzen 7 3700x, 16gb ram, Gigabyte X570 Aorus elite , wraith prism (included in cpu)
Β) ryzen 7 3700x, 16gb ram or 32gb ram, Msi b450 tomahawk max, wraith prism (included in cpu)

Both motherboards are more than enough for your cpu to run even overclocked. You picked already an nvme drive that is PCI-e gen 3.0. The mostly reason to buy an X570 right now is the PCI-e gen 4.0 for 4.0 nvme drives do you really believe that you will need that? Also do you believe that you will need that 32GB of ram? For gaming 16gb is more than enough and for many workloads also there is always the option to upgrade to 32 later. If you want to save some money then go for the B option that i listed with 16GB of ram the performance will be the same anyway.
Ok. I thought one more option: Ryzen 5 3600, 16gb ram, msi x570 gaming pro carbon and bequiet dark rock 4 pro.
 

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Ok. I thought one more option: Ryzen 5 3600, 16gb ram, msi x570 gaming pro carbon and bequiet dark rock 4 pro.
The cpu dark rock cooler is really optional and dont sacrifice performance for this. All ryzen cpu's come with a stock cooler that is enough to run the cpu with stocks speed or light overclock. Also a 270 euros motherboard like carbon seems to me pointless to run with a Ryzen 5 3600 you can do this even with an 50 euros A320 motherboard and get the same level of performance. This will be your best option:
Ryzen 7 3700x, 16gb ram, Gigabyte X570 Aorus elite , wraith prism (included in cpu)
 
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The cpu dark rock cooler is really optional and dont sacrifice performance for this. All ryzen cpu's come with a stock cooler that is enough to run the cpu with stocks speed or light overclock. Also a 270 euros motherboard like carbon seems to me pointless to run with a Ryzen 5 3600 you can do this even with an 50 euros A320 motherboard and get the same level of performance. This will be your best option:
Ryzen 7 3700x, 16gb ram, Gigabyte X570 Aorus elite , wraith prism (included in cpu)
Ok thanks. Yeah, I rethought it and it's not worth spending 260€ for a motherboard in my situation.
So, I will probably go for 3700x, 16gb ram and x570 aorus elite or 2700, 32gb ram, x470 gaming pro carbon and dark rock 4 pro.
 

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Ok thanks. Yeah, I rethought it and it's not worth spending 260€ for a motherboard in my situation.
So, I will probably go for 3700x, 16gb ram and x570 aorus elite or 2700, 32gb ram, x470 gaming pro carbon and dark rock 4 pro.
You can still change the X570 aorus elite from my option and replace it with a B450 Tomahawk MAX or X470 gaming pro carbon and get 32Gb of ram instead. You wont notice any performance difference even if you get X570 , B450 or X470 at all. The vrm's are cable for even more than Ryzen 7 3700X. The choice is yours if you need the extra features like PCI-e 4.0 because thats will be the main reason you will pay more. Also note that X470 gaming pro carbon will need a bios update.
1) https://www.skroutz.gr/s/19849369/MSI-X470-Gaming-Plus-Max.html?from=catspan&keyphrase=x470+max
2)https://www.skroutz.gr/s/19600276/MSI-B450-Tomahawk-Max.html?keyphrase=b450+tomahawk

These motherboards are out of the box compatible.
 
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You can still change the X570 aorus elite from my option and replace it with a B450 Tomahawk MAX or X470 gaming pro carbon and get 32Gb of ram instead. You wont notice any performance difference even if you get X570 , B450 or X470 at all. The vrm's are cable for even more than Ryzen 7 3700X. The choice is yours if you need the extra features like PCI-e 4.0 because thats will be the main reason you will pay more. Also note that X470 gaming pro carbon will need a bios update.
1) https://www.skroutz.gr/s/19849369/MSI-X470-Gaming-Plus-Max.html?from=catspan&keyphrase=x470+max
2)https://www.skroutz.gr/s/19600276/MSI-B450-Tomahawk-Max.html?keyphrase=b450+tomahawk

These motherboards are out of the box compatible.
Yes, and that's my problem, I would prefer out of the box compatibility as these mobos you mentioned. To conclude, I am left with 2 options based on the cpu I 'll buy: 1 is the 2700 (and the set as option A) and the other is 3700x (and the set as the option B). If I get a b450 max instead of X570 I will be able to buy a cooler (dark rock 4 pro) too, but worse mobo, less features, no pcie 4, no upgrades in the future. I will be thinking of it for a bit more and I hope I make the right choice. Actually, I am not sure if it's worth paying 160€ more for a cpu and lacking in other specs, plus I will have a limited itself gpu. Anyway thank you all especially Stefanos (Στέφανε) for your help.
 
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