Choosing between a GTX 560ti and a GTX 750ti

[Kristian Lum]

Hello fellow techies I would like to confirm some info I'm no a budget and the two cards mentioned in the title is what would best benefit me, now originally I was just gonna go with the 750ti being the latest generation but asking a friend of mine which is what I'd like to confirm about it he says with my current board which is MSI AM3 NVIDIA nForce ATX AMD Motherboard NF750-G55 since its a pcie 2.0 would not make a good choice because it will bottleneck the card and lead to heating and the eventual death of the card is this true or would it work well and survive. If it would die I would just upgrade with the 560ti until i can eventually upgrade my board and processor to suite a newer generation graphics card. Please let me know what is the best choice.

 

[Alec Mowat]

I would take the 750 ti, simple because it's newer. The 560 uses significantly more power and might not give a huge performance boost over the 750 ti.

 

[Kristian Lum]

I would take the 750 ti, simple because it's newer. The 560 uses significantly more power and might not give a huge performance boost over the 750 ti.

That would be a good idea but I'd like to know if the newer one really would die after a few months usage due to bottlenecking because I would not be upgrading the board to a pcie 3.0 capable for a while an I rather not spend the money it burns out and I have to spend again on another card.

 

[stickmansam]

560ti and 750ti performance is almost indistinguishable
750ti is a bit below 7850 performance, just like the 560ti (7850 plays like a 560ti 448)
750ti is also much more efficent and likely to receive driver updates for longer

bottlenecking the card will not lead to increased heat and death of the card
pcie 2.0 will not bottleneck

 

[Kristian Lum]

560ti and 750ti performance is almost indistinguishable
750ti is a bit below 7850 performance, just like the 560ti (7850 plays like a 560ti 448)
750ti is also much more efficent and likely to receive driver updates for longer

bottlenecking the card will not lead to increased heat and death of the card
pcie 2.0 will not bottleneck

So would you save stickman tht it would last lets say a year on my current board without bottlenecking and damaging the card etc.?

 

[bccorrupt]

Sounds like some Broscience to me. Your friend is hereby banned from giving computer advice.

The pci-e version won't cause a card not to work, the only difference is the amount of data it can transfer, similar to usb2.0 vs usb3.0. Your motherboard won't care and pci-e 2.0 isn't saturated anyway.

One component always being what's holding up the performance in your computer(bottlenecking) won't actually damage components, the slower component will just always be what's restricting your performance and it varies by game/program. A game that is more CPU intensive might cause your CPU to be the bottleneck, but then another game played on the exact same system might tax the CPU and GPU equally. There's no way to buy components and it be exact.

 

[PossumJones]

It should last longer than a year. I have two 770s on an AM3 board, 2.0 pcie, and I dont believe they are affected in any way. My Firestrike scores are similar to 770s in Z87 set ups that have pcie 3.0.

 

[bccorrupt]

Also, the 560ti is still new enough it's listed in TomsHardware's 2014 charts with the 750ti. The 750ti is 20-30% faster than a 560ti on average, with the occasional game like Thief that the 750ti is 100% faster.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2014-vga-charts/benchmarks,175.html

 

[Kristian Lum]

Sounds like some Broscience to me. Your friend is hereby banned from giving computer advice.

The pci-e version won't cause a card not to work, the only difference is the amount of data it can transfer, similar to usb2.0 vs usb3.0. Your motherboard won't care and pci-e 2.0 isn't saturated anyway.

One component always being what's holding up the performance in your computer(bottlenecking) won't actually damage components, the slower component will just always be what's restricting your performance and it varies by game/program.

What a friend of mine said is that the bottleneck would cause the card to work a certain way and heat up more which will eventually overheat and die.

 

[Kristian Lum]

Sounds like some Broscience to me. Your friend is hereby banned from giving computer advice.

The pci-e version won't cause a card not to work, the only difference is the amount of data it can transfer, similar to usb2.0 vs usb3.0. Your motherboard won't care and pci-e 2.0 isn't saturated anyway.

One component always being what's holding up the performance in your computer(bottlenecking) won't actually damage components, the slower component will just always be what's restricting your performance and it varies by game/program.

What a friend of mine said is that the bottleneck would cause the card to work a certain way and heat up more which will eventually overheat and die.

 

[bccorrupt]

Sounds like some Broscience to me. Your friend is hereby banned from giving computer advice.

The pci-e version won't cause a card not to work, the only difference is the amount of data it can transfer, similar to usb2.0 vs usb3.0. Your motherboard won't care and pci-e 2.0 isn't saturated anyway.

One component always being what's holding up the performance in your computer(bottlenecking) won't actually damage components, the slower component will just always be what's restricting your performance and it varies by game/program.

What a friend of mine said is that the bottleneck would cause the card to work a certain way and heat up more which will eventually overheat and die.

That is 100% not true. You can put a Titan in a core2duo system and run it for the next 10 years. You can also put a GT610 with an i7 and run it for the next 10 years.

 

[Alec Mowat]

I would take the 750 ti, simple because it's newer. The 560 uses significantly more power and might not give a huge performance boost over the 750 ti.

That would be a good idea but I'd like to know if the newer one really would die after a few months usage due to bottlenecking because I would not be upgrading the board to a pcie 3.0 capable for a while an I rather not spend the money it burns out and I have to spend again on another card.

You won't Bottleneck on PCIe x2, It's about 8 GB/s, that's fast. That's a motherboard bottleneck and it has nothing to do with the graphics card. You won't bottleneck on that speed anyway.
http://www.enthusiastpc.net/articles/00003/3.aspx

 

[stickmansam]

I have a 7750 on pcie 1.1 for nearly a year no issues and fps is right in line with it on pcie 3.0

It will not be damaged as pcie is backwards compatible, it will not be bottlenecked

750ti and 560ti should be nera identical in performance except in newer games where it get better support

 

[bccorrupt]

I have a 7750 on pcie 1.1 for nearly a year no issues and fps is right in line with it on pcie 3.0

It will not be damaged as pcie is backwards compatible, it will not be bottlenecked

750ti and 560ti should be nera identical in performance except in newer games where it get better support

I do agree with that. The newer the game is the bigger the difference the 750ti will make.

Also, I had never thought about it because it doesn't affect anything, but my motherboard in my signature is a pci-e 2.0 and I've had my GTX660 for over a year and it's pci-e 3.0. The motherboard in my living room is also an Intel 1155 with pci-e 2.0 and I have a GTX750ti in it that's pci-e 3.0.

 

[stickmansam]

My friend runs a 780ti in pcie 2.0
also hid 7970 CFX in pcie 2.0 and no issues

grab the 750ti and don;t look back [unless the 560ti is a lot cheaper than the 750ti]

 

[Kristian Lum]

My friend runs a 780ti in pcie 2.0
also hid 7970 CFX in pcie 2.0 and no issues

grab the 750ti and don;t look back [unless the 560ti is a lot cheaper than the 750ti]

How long has he been running it?

 

[stickmansam]

running pcie 3.0 or any gen in pcie 1.1 or any other gen will not decrease lifespan of the card

but he ran the 7970 (at first one) and latter two for at least 2 years and the 780ti for about 2 months

 

[Kristian Lum]

My friend runs a 780ti in pcie 2.0
also hid 7970 CFX in pcie 2.0 and no issues

grab the 750ti and don;t look back [unless the 560ti is a lot cheaper than the 750ti]

running pcie 3.0 or any gen in pcie 1.1 or any other gen will not decrease lifespan of the card

but he ran the 7970 (at first one) and latter two for at least 2 years and the 780ti for about 2 months

Ok thanks very much I think I'll go with the 750ti

 

[stickmansam]

have fun!