choosing between the intel i7 4970k vs i7 5930k

[Umeed]

So I plan to do an upgrade.

currently running a 2600k, personally imo, i dont think i NEED an upgrade lol as I've yet to even touch over clocking on this beautiful cpu and im sure it can still handle everything i wanna throw at it...but im also at a point where a good deal is coming around and i figured why not ?

so, between the i7 4970k and the 5930k (please keep in mind i never overclock..anything..but who knows someday i might0 which would be the better choice?

now, i love pc gaming, i love to fiddle with programming, and i have a subscription to Unreal Engine and I recently bought 3DsMax, i'll eventually want to make games, ranging from anything like strategy, to rpg, to whatever....plus of course 3D character designs etc....


the price im getting is $100 for 4970k, and 180 for 5930k....

so any help would be greatly appreciated.

incase anyone is wondering

my complete upgrade will be changing CPU, MOBO, and HDD replacing with SSD and 2 backup HDD, and just got my gtx970. Basically I'm upgrading to win8 to take advantage of new DirectX (and SSD) that win7 cannot install d3d 11.2+ and take full advantage of SSD (at least thats what im told about the SSD), and eventually upgrade to win10 when its released.


my i7 2600k and the sabertooth mobo will likely become a backup pc or something.



thank you for your time!

 

[Darkbreeze]

Considering the price of the motherboard and RAM you would need to purchase to make going with the 5930k a good option, this choice really comes down to finances and even then I think it's a poor choice. I don't think the performance difference between a system with the i7-4790k that is well configured with supporting hardware and the 5930k justifies the incredible price of going that direction. In fact, I don't think it performs "better" at all.

I think that the 4790k would be a much better choice in THIS case, especially if you feel the 2600k is still doing what you need it to do, than paying four times the price for your supporting hardware to achieve a 5-10% (If that) increase in performance.

 

[mouse24]

I'd just buy the 5930k then sell it on ebay for double what you payed for it. But since you want to keep it I have some questions.

1: How much ram do you need in this system, is your current amount enough? (I have little to no knowledge of 3dsmax/unreal engine requirements)
2: Whats your current setup


The reason I mention ram is simply because DDR4 could be the breaking point in the new build, its ridiculously expensive.

Cheapest 8gb of DDR4 I found on newegg is 110 bucks, cheapest 16gb is 190 bucks.

Personally I'd really suggest the cheaper 4790k.

 

[Darkbreeze]

In BF 4, Bioshock and Crysis 3 it scored exactly the same.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/09/03/intel-core-i7-5930k-and-core-i7-5820k-revie/7


In image editing and video encoding, the 4790k actually scored higher. I suppose in some of the synthetic benchmarks the 5930k did better, but I'm not seeing it.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/09/03/intel-core-i7-5930k-and-core-i7-5820k-revie/4

 

[Umeed]

oh man i hadn't considered that i'd need ddr4 ram LOL well that settles it, cuz i have 16gb now of kingston hyper-x beast ram that is doing a fantastic job.

so that settles it, thank you for your time guys! 4970k it is!

 

[Darkbreeze]

That's a good choice. You should see a really decent performance bump with the 4790K. If you find a 4970k, let me know, I might want to buy it. Heh. (You typo'd)

 

[Umeed]

haha woops, i keep doing that lolol

 

[Ryanrenesis]

You already have an i7-2600K, going to the i7-4790K won't be much of a difference. In fact, it probably won't be noticeable at all.

Go for the 5930k or wait for Broadwell.

 

[Darkbreeze]

You already have an i7-2600K, going to the i7-4790K won't be much of a difference. In fact, it probably won't be noticeable at all.

Go for the 5930k or wait for Broadwell.

Clearly, you did not read the OP in which he said he had an opportunity to get the 4790k for a hundred bucks. Broad well will be well over three hundred. Obviously, it's not a better choice.

And the single core performance of the 4790k is about 15% faster than the 2600k.

It has a 600Mhz faster base clock.

It also has a lower TDP, which means it runs cooler.

The 4790k has a higher OC threshold than the 2600k.

You probably won't see a whole lot of improvements in gaming, as most titles rely on the GPU for the most part, but in games that are CPU intensive, or in other types of applications that are strictly tied to the CPU and RAM, there will probably be some noticeable improvement.

 

[Umeed]

do you guys think the price of Broadwell will drop when 'Skylake' releases?

 

[Darkbreeze]

Undoubtedly, but there still won't be that much improvement over Haswell refresh or Haswell-E. If you want to wait for a serious revision, you will have to wait for Skylake that will be an entirely new architecture. It doesn't look like Broadwell will make much of a splash after all and will be quickly forgotten after the initial ripples.

My thought is that when Skylake is released the prices on DDR4 should hopefully have dropped significantly by then as well as latency catching up somewhat so that DDR4 becomes viable versus DDR3 that currently has much lower latencies. Then it might make sense to grab a Haswell-E or Broadwell setup since the X99 motherboards might see a nice drop in price as well. Otherwise, if they don't, you might as well just stick with a Haswell refresh i7 and the fastest DDR3 you can get or suck it up and pony up the cash for Skylake, DDR4 and whatever platform motherboard it uses.


Plus, you won't be able to upgrade to Skylake from Broadwell, so there will once again not be much, if any, upgrade path with the X99 platform.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2683392/pc-confusion-to-linger-on-intels-quick-jump-to-skylake.html

 

[Umeed]

hmmmm i see, well ill take advantage of the 4790k price and still get it, i'll still make use out of my 2600k with a separate build...but i'll keep an eye on Skylake and see what kind of improvements are really made, i think next year will be pretty interesting, i read an article from forbes about the 'wireless charging' and upgraded WiDi and stuff that Intel is trying to bring in full force like they did with WiFi, and there was also an article somewhere else about LED internet and how it was ridiculously fast but short range i think lol