Question Choosing mobo, after 11 years. Indecisive. head exploding.

[blueangel42]

Hello,
Im running a 4790k on an asus z97-A. since 2014, and its time. Its been a very long time and im ready and super excited. The system ran great and still going strong

My use:
All i do is play games, and intel sucks now. So im going to get a 9800x3d. I will consider the 8000 series AMD offerings in Jan, but could go all out on a 2k 5090.
I like overclocking, and had great success with my 4790k. i like it when things just work and are stable and i will pay money for it.


Looks like the 800 series MOBOs that are out now, are lame compared to 600 series. Oh well.

Price is not an object. I really just want some input on the brand quality mobo wise between MSI and ASUS.
My z97-A Asus was great, zero issues. I did have at one point a portable MSI laptop (that was stolen, rip) and I like their software, it felt nice.

My question is, what MOBO do i buy? I'm looking hard at power stages (i like to overclock and want stability; getting a nice 170i AIO), I want to use at least TWO M.2 's, without cutting my bandwidth, and everything else i dont really care about. I dont use a lot of peripherials, USB gen 4 is useless to me, WIFI is useless to me as i just plug into ethernet cable anyway.
Clearly i keep my builds for a long time.
I was thinking of something more 300$ range at first, but from what ive seen, you get better power stages when you step up to the 500$ range. its only a 150-200$ difference which is nothing after waiting this long
Who brings more to the table here?

ASUS ROG 870E-E

MSI 870 Carbon

(300$ range i was looking at MSI tomahawk, Aurous stuff, the mid tier strix)
Honestly its all so confusing with massive price differences, and between this and wanting to treat myself all this time and having the means to do it, it feels like my head is going to explode. Thank you for any input here. I just want to feel like ive made the right choice and if my focus on the best power stages is correct. Thank you again

 

[CountMike]

Hello,
Im running a 4790k on an asus z97-A. since 2014, and its time. Its been a very long time and im ready and super excited. The system ran great and still going strong

My use:
All i do is play games, and intel sucks now. So im going to get a 9800x3d. I will consider the 8000 series AMD offerings in Jan, but could go all out on a 2k 5090.
I like overclocking, and had great success with my 4790k. i like it when things just work and are stable and i will pay money for it.


Looks like the 800 series MOBOs that are out now, are lame compared to 600 series. Oh well.

Price is not an object. I really just want some input on the brand quality mobo wise between MSI and ASUS.
My z97-A Asus was great, zero issues. I did have at one point a portable MSI laptop (that was stolen, rip) and I like their software, it felt nice.

My question is, what MOBO do i buy? I'm looking hard at power stages (i like to overclock and want stability; getting a nice 170i AIO), I want to use at least TWO M.2 's, without cutting my bandwidth, and everything else i dont really care about. I dont use a lot of peripherials, USB gen 4 is useless to me, WIFI is useless to me as i just plug into ethernet cable anyway.
Clearly i keep my builds for a long time.
I was thinking of something more 300$ range at first, but from what ive seen, you get better power stages when you step up to the 500$ range. its only a 150-200$ difference which is nothing after waiting this long
Who brings more to the table here?

ASUS ROG 870E-E

MSI 870 Carbon

(300$ range i was looking at MSI tomahawk, Aurous stuff, the mid tier strix)
Honestly its all so confusing with massive price differences, and between this and wanting to treat myself all this time and having the means to do it, it feels like my head is going to explode. Thank you for any input here. I just want to feel like ive made the right choice and if my focus on the best power stages is correct. Thank you again

X870 MBs are not "lame", those chipsets have more and faster/newerversion PCIe lanes as well as USB4 etc. as well as better memory architecture, so those are assets to look for. B850 chipsets coming soon.
Ryzen 8000g series are useful only when you need better IGPU, but that also means less of PCIe lanes from CPU so more from chipset may come handy if you need them otherwise 9000 series all the way, x3D for gaming.
Other than those chipset capabilities, B650 or X670 MBs would do same job with 9800x3D but much cheaper overall.

 

[blueangel42]

In my research for a MOBO on my new build, I've come across lane sharing prevalent on all MOBO's (except the Asrock Nova)
Im not sure people are asking the right question here:
Does it really matter if your going to be cutting PCIe gen5 in half to x8 (when you use a 2nd M.2 drive)?

At the end of the day, i don't want my super nice, present and future, GPUs to get bottlenecked, if I'm shelling out 300-500$ on a MOBO.
Does anyone here expect a 5090 to be limited at all by x8 rather then x16 gen 5, or even the 5090's successor?
What does our 4090 experience tell us with regards to bandwidth and bottlenecking?

I'm still looking for the best MOBO for my case, with 9800x3d:

1. I care most about overclocking stability (great PCB lanes, right?)
2. Using TWO M.2's
3. 5gb LAN

.
I cant decide between the MSI Tomahawk, MSI Carbon, Asrock Nova, or Asus ROG motherboards... And I think its boiling down to me not understanding the difference between a 14 - 2- 2 and a 20 - 2 - 1 PCM rail system.
And me not understanding bandwidth and how it applies to current hardware, and extrapolating that to what it might mean for future hardware.

I am gearing up to make a new high end build after 11 years, and im trying to get learnt. Thank you!

 

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