Choosing my first gaming pc

[geno.t.fifa]

Hi! I'm buying a Pre-Built gaming PC and would like help deciding between the 3 that I have narrowed down(These three are within my budget of $750. I will post links to each PC below so i dont have to type out the Specs of each one.
- The $699 Vanquish 7 by Digital Storm Level 1: http://

- The $699 IMP level 1 by Ironside computers:
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- The $649.95 Apex gold gaming Desktop pc by Apex gaming: https://apexgamingpcs.com/collections/gaming-pcs/products/apex-gold-gaming-desktop-pc

If you have any other options within that price range that are better please inform me for i am a novice to the world of Gaming pc's. I will be using my pc for Gaming and Streaming to twitch and youtube and also editing youtube videos. im using a console with a capture card currently but in the future i would like the pc to be up-gradable so i can use it for gaming as well once im ready to move past my console or make pc gaming my primary way to play.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

System 1 and 3 are simmilar with a powerfull cpu, and decent integrated graphics. System 2 has a weak dual core cpu, but a dedacated gpu, much more powerfull than the integrated graphics in system 1 and 3. None of those systems seem like good value for $700.

 

[bignastyid]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from geno.t.fifa : "Buying my FIRST GAMING PC"

I've narrowed my search for a Gaming Desktop PC down to the APEX Gold Gaming PC, The Ironside IMP series, or the Vanquish 7 by Digital Storm. These are the options within my budget. Ill be using it for Streaming to twitch and editing videos while running few tabs. I Would like to know which one is the better deal. Apex Gold is $649.95, the IMP is $699 and the Vanquish is $699. Can i get some advice please? i currently and using a capture card with my ps4 so ill still be gaming on my console but i would like the pc to be ready for when i do decide to game on PC in the future.

What are the specs of both systems?

What are the specs of both systems?

Sorry i had my brother type out this thread for me and he messed it up. I couldn't find the delete button so i posted a thread again with all the specs and information. sorry for the inconvenience, please follow this link to my thread with the proper information. If a mod is reading this please delete this thread.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3880437/choosing-gaming.html

 

[geno.t.fifa]

System 1 and 3 are simmilar with a powerfull cpu, and decent integrated graphics. System 2 has a weak dual core cpu, but a dedacated gpu, much more powerfull than the integrated graphics in system 1 and 3. None of those systems seem like good value for $700.

Thank your for taking the time to reply again. So you wouldn't recommend any of these three pc's. Im not against building my own. do you have any pre build recommendations or should i begin scouring the internet for the parts i need. and will my budget allow for me to build something better than that 3 i listed before.

 

[bignastyid]

The apex and digital storm a horrible options as they are way overpriced for the performance, you are paying for a pretty system that's barely entry level as far as gaming is concerned. Definitely form over function here.

The imp is slightly better but still way overpriced for the performance.

For $750 this would be much better

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($93.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($49.85 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - RE4 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.65 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($51.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $735.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-31 14:45 EST-0500

Now to get the max performance I didn't include windows, but the nice thing about 10 is that you can run it unactivated indefinitely(some minor annoyances) and buy a key later to activate it and get rid of said annoyances.

If you want a win 109 key right off the bat you'd have to drop down to a slower cpu, cpu and a smaller PSU.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($93.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($49.85 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - RE4 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.65 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 4 GB NITRO+ Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $752.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-31 14:49 EST-0500

*update* forgot to add you'll want to add a 120 or 140mm fan for a front front intake with that case. You can usually get a decent fan for $10 or less.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

About what i would reccomend^^ You can buy a cheap win 10 key from SCDkeys.com. I got windows 10 pro from there for 14bucks and it works well.

 

[bignastyid]

About what i would reccomend^^ You can buy a cheap win 10 key from SCDkeys.com. I got windows 10 pro from there for 14bucks and it works well.

I don't recommend any of those cheap key sites, seen way too many people get ripped off. they may work in the short term but many end up getting revoked weeks to months later when the charge backs Just like the cheap game keys criminals use these sites to launder money from stolen credit cards.

 

[geno.t.fifa]

The apex and digital storm a horrible options as they are way overpriced for the performance, you are paying for a pretty system that's barely entry level as far as gaming is concerned. Definitely form over function here.

The imp is slightly better but still way overpriced for the performance.

For $750 this would be much better

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($93.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($49.85 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - RE4 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.65 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($51.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $735.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-31 14:45 EST-0500

Now to get the max performance I didn't include windows, but the nice thing about 10 is that you can run it unactivated indefinitely(some minor annoyances) and buy a key later to activate it and get rid of said annoyances.

If you want a win 109 key right off the bat you'd have to drop down to a slower cpu, cpu and a smaller PSU.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($93.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($49.85 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - RE4 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.65 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 4 GB NITRO+ Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $752.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-31 14:49 EST-0500

Thank you for the information and list. ill be looking into all of that out right now. i will probably use a little more cash to get the windows key along with the max performance list you posted.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Sounds good. My key has been working great for a year strong. A lot of the keys are bulk keys being sold off cheap, not necessarily stolen.

 

[bignastyid]

Sounds good. My key has been working great for a year strong. A lot of the keys are bulk keys being sold off cheap, not necessarily stolen.

Just because the gamble has seemingly worked for you doesn't mean you should suggest others gamble with their money.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

When the gamble is only over 5 or 10% of the full price i think it is worth it to risk $15 to save well over $100. I have a fair point. For all security you could buy from newegg. They have cheap keys guaranteed to work.

 

[popatim]

Keep in mind you can install Win10 without ever buying a key or activating it and it will work fine minus a few customizations if money is better spent on better hardware at the moment.

 

[geno.t.fifa]

The apex and digital storm a horrible options as they are way overpriced for the performance, you are paying for a pretty system that's barely entry level as far as gaming is concerned. Definitely form over function here.

The imp is slightly better but still way overpriced for the performance.

For $750 this would be much better

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($93.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($49.85 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - RE4 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.65 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($51.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $735.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-31 14:45 EST-0500

Now to get the max performance I didn't include windows, but the nice thing about 10 is that you can run it unactivated indefinitely(some minor annoyances) and buy a key later to activate it and get rid of said annoyances.

If you want a win 109 key right off the bat you'd have to drop down to a slower cpu, cpu and a smaller PSU.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($93.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($49.85 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - RE4 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.65 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 4 GB NITRO+ Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $752.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-31 14:49 EST-0500

*update* forgot to add you'll want to add a 120 or 140mm fan for a front front intake with that case. You can usually get a decent fan for $10 or less.

Hey i expanded my budget a bit and i put together this parts list. Can you give me your thoughts on it?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/geno_tw/saved/Lf9gwP

 

[bignastyid]

Ryzen needs fast ram to perform optimally get ddr4 3000 or faster(in dual channel). With the 1060 your are spending $40 more for what equates to the same performance as the rx580. Also that RGB fan requires a corsair rgb controller for the RGB to work.

 

[geno.t.fifa]

Ryzen needs fast ram to perform optimally get ddr4 3000 or faster(in dual channel). With the 1060 your are spending $40 more for what equates to the same performance as the rx580. Also that RGB fan requires a corsair rgb controller for the RGB to work.

So get the ddr4 3000(in dual channel)
change the 1060 video card to the rx580
and ditch the fan.
Will that be all? Im so excited to get building but its gotta be right. i appreciate the advice. Is there anything else you would change?

 

[bignastyid]

Here's what I'd do for $950
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.01 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $954.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-31 23:17 EST-0500

 

[geno.t.fifa]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from geno.t.fifa : "Is this parts list good?"

this is the end of my budget. This is the list of parts i have compiled and would like to know if i can finally order the parts and build my first pc or should i change things and look for different parts
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/geno_tw/saved/Lf9gwP

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($78.68 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 590 8 GB STRIX GAMING Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair - SP120 RGB High Performance 52 CFM 120mm Fan ($18.27 @ OutletPC)
Total: $971.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-31 23:12 EST-0500

I'd go this route if gaming is the point and this is in the US.

Bit cheaper and will definitely be a better gaming setup

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($78.68 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 590 8 GB STRIX GAMING Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair - SP120 RGB High Performance 52 CFM 120mm Fan ($18.27 @ OutletPC)
Total: $971.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-31 23:12 EST-0500

I'd go this route if gaming is the point and this is in the US.

Bit cheaper and will definitely be a better gaming setup

im currently using my ps4 with an elgato capture card. gaming is something i plan on moving into down the line but for now i need this pc to be good at multitasking, streaming to twitch and editing videos. i do want it to be ready if i do in case take interest in a game for pc so as long as the quality is no worse than my ps4 im fine with it not being the Ultimate gaming pc..

 

[bignastyid]

Let's keep the build discussion to 1 thread please.

 

[Supahos]

The build of mine will be a better gaming setup and just a but slower in tasks using more than 12 threads equally.

 

[bignastyid]

The build of mine will be a better gaming setup and just a but slower in tasks using more than 12 threads equally.

Imho the RX590 is not worth $100 more than a 580. With a $950 budget you can get a RTX 2060 which is quite a bit faster than the 590.

 

[Supahos]

Yeah I considered going 2600/2060 but it was a bit above what he originally posted in the thread I was replying to and he already said he was over budget

 

[geno.t.fifa]

The build of mine will be a better gaming setup and just a but slower in tasks using more than 12 threads equally.

Imho the RX590 is not worth $100 more than a 580. With a $950 budget you can get a RTX 2060 which is quite a bit faster than the 590.

Do you have anything else comparable to the rtx 2060 I can't find it on pc part picker

 

[Supahos]

It basically trades back and forth with a 1070ti

 

[bignastyid]

The build of mine will be a better gaming setup and just a but slower in tasks using more than 12 threads equally.

Imho the RX590 is not worth $100 more than a 580. With a $950 budget you can get a RTX 2060 which is quite a bit faster than the 590.

Do you have anything else comparable to the rtx 2060 I can't find it on pc part picker

Are you buying from the US? I see many on PCpartpicker. https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=436&sort=price&page=1