Archived from groups: alt.games.civ3 (
More info?)
"Jeffery S. Jones" <jeffsj@execpc.com> wrote in message
news:7lhr7015olkgaeg3skud6bp958cu0gf2r5@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:27:15 +0100, "Contro"
> <moridin@contro.freeserve.co.remove.then.add.initials.of.united.kingdom>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Brandon Supernaw" <brandon.public@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:c5c1lu$14nm$1@ID-195615.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >> Contro wrote:
> >> > Hi Guys,
> >> >
> >> > I was just hoping you could help me in regards to the latest patches.
> >> >
> >> > I've been to www.civ3.com, which I assume is the official site, and
> >there
> >> > are a number of patches available for Conquests. However, I'm from
the
> >UK,
> >> > and it says that the patches are for the US version only. I've no
idea
> >if
> >> > this is a language thing, or if they genuinely won't work. There
does
> >seem
> >> > to be an international patch lower down, but that seems to be for
Play
> >the
> >> > World, and doesn't make much sense anyway when I clicked on it.
> >> >
> >> > So I was just wondering if I could download these patches for my UK
> >version,
> >> > or if not, does anyone know if the patches are available for the UK,
and
> >if
> >> > so, how can I get them?
> >> >
> >> > Also, there seems to be some controversy about the patches....are
some
> >of
> >> > them not worth downloading anyway? Obviously I want to enjoy the
game,
> >so
> >> > would prefer to stay away from any dodgy patches or ones that make
the
> >game
> >> > less enjoyable.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your help!
> >> >
> >> > Contro.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
http://www.firaxis.com/downloads_detail.cfm?file_id=74
> >>
> >> Patch v1.22f all in one patch for all languages, and it comes in at a
> >> hefty 24.3MB in size. Whether you want it or not is your call. I am
> >> perfectly happy with it, but others have stated they have no intention
> >> of loading it. That page lists all of the changes it made, so you can
> >> make an informed decision whether you want it or not.
> >
> >Thanks very much for that! I've downloaded it, but not yet installed it.
I
> >see that it has taken away the radio option. To be honest though, I'm a
> >novice at Civ, so I don't really know for sure if it's a good or a bad
> >thing. It seems that the Radio advance allows you to place Radio towers,
> >but I am still at the stage where I just automate my workers, and allow
them
> >to do what they want, which means I never really have any colonies or
what
> >not.
>
> All that Radio did was give you a couple of techs, and those were
> moved to other ones. I don't think that it affects the overall
> gameplay much, other than to remove one tech which was a "roadblock"
> on the path to the modern era.
>
yes, I know what you mean. I was just worried that something had been taken
out, but nothing has really.
> >Can I ask you a quick question regarding Civ though...it's regarding the
> >victory conditions. You have the cultural victory condition, but how
does
> >this work exactly? I'm assuming your culture is not based on the
territory
> >you own, as that would make it similar to the domination winning
condition
> >(or whatever it's called), but then, when you increase in culture, your
> >territory usually increases too, so I'm a little confused by this.
>
> Cultural victory uses the total culture of all cities -- you can
> check this with the cultural advisor, and also on the scoring graph.
> You can win either by having one single city hit 20000 culture, or by
> having your total culture hit the score needed to win on the map (in
> Civ3/PTW, this is 100000), but you also must have more than twice that
> of your next nearest rival.
>
> The easiest way to make lots of culture is to have lots of cities
> with culture buildings. Many buildings generate bonus culture if
> they've existed long enough, so early cities pay off better than new
> ones.
>
Thanks! Not an easy victory condition really! Does this mean that a
culture victory is very closely related to a domination victory, as surely
for a good culture rating, without going for the single city win, you need a
lot of cities, which can only really be got by taking over lots of others?
> >Also, the diplomatic victory...is it worth having this enabled? I can
see
> >it being very annoying if you are doing really well, only to lose due to
> >this. And is it fairly done too, or do the computer peoples never vote
for
> >you, no matter how nice and diplomatic you have been?
> >
>
> The UN vote is fairly done, but it is hard to know if the AI will
> vote for you. Check diplomatically, see if they all are gracious with
> you. If not, try to make them so.
>
> One way to get votes on your side is to get involved in a war. You
> allies will never vote for your mutual enemies, so if you are one of
> the candidates you can ensure getting some votes.
>
> The AI may also abstain, and it is fairly easy for a close game to
> yield a tie.
>
> The vote is annoying because it isn't possible to predict if you
> will win before you call for it. The AI will never call for the vote
> unless they can win. OTOH, as a human you can just reload the game if
> you lose the vote, then refuse to call it.
>
> It does offer one more victory option, but I think it is more likely
> to be used as a push to get the UN to deny the vote for everyone.
Sounds like it's done well! I might as well add it in future then, as it
all adds to the fun. I'm not sure a computer player is ever liked enought to
win very often. Only problem with it is that if you have all these
wonderful plans, and then some civ wins the UN vote, it could be quite
annoying! I guess it's a way to enable the small civs to win. Although
having said that, it's unlikely they'd be able to make any other civ feel
"gracious" towards them if they have nothing to offer.
Facebook
Twitter
Instagram