It allwayse been september but does they are really faster that Nw on 256KB of L2 anserwer no but with 1MB that a others thing but what i have see L2 perf is still very low only 6GB/S compare to the 60GB/S of P4.Memory perf is good do i was sure they will not able to pull it out seem that no high perf and low lantency and less pin/trace.