Closed Cirquit Liquid Cooler?

[L10N T4M3R]

I am looking for a closed cirquit liquid cooler that i can mount on the back of my case, i have a 140mm fan spot there although there is 120mm holes incase i need 120mm, i am looking for a good cooler for my case. thanks

I have an Intel Core i7 3770K Unlocked 4-Core 3rd Gen Processor not overlocked yet

 

[itzdanielp]

Both the Corsair H90, and the NZXT X40 are very comparable and solid coolers. Both are 140mm.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/1076-liquid-cooler-roundup-h90-h110-x40-x60?start=1

 

[ssddx]

the nzxt kraken series have longer hoses if i remember correctly which makes mounting them in large cases or in odd spots easier.

for mounting on the back of the case though this doesnt matter.

 

[L10N T4M3R]

You will need to provide us with your processor and if it's overclocked as well. They vary in greatly temp depending on brand and generation.

I have an Intel Core i7 3770K Unlocked 4-Core 3rd Gen Processor not overlocked yet

 

[geofelt]

I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler can do the job.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"

 

[L10N T4M3R]

I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler can do the job.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"

hmm thanks for your idea but its alot better to overclock with water cooling, right?

 

[HEXiT]

on haswell and ivy parts yes... liquid coolers can cope with fast transitions to high overclocks better than air cooler.

 

[geofelt]

If you are a competitive overclocker, then yes, a custom liquid cooler is appropriate.
But, if you want a conservative overclock, and have a decently well ventilated case, a top air cooler like a noctua NH-D14 or phanteks will cool equally well, and be quieter.

 

[L10N T4M3R]

If you are a competitive overclocker, then yes, a custom liquid cooler is appropriate.
But, if you want a conservative overclock, and have a decently well ventilated case, a top air cooler like a noctua NH-D14 or phanteks will cool equally well, and be quieter.

i currently have an aftermarket cooler and does nicely im just worried going 4-4.5ghz is goiing to over heat

 

[geofelt]

If you are a competitive overclocker, then yes, a custom liquid cooler is appropriate.
But, if you want a conservative overclock, and have a decently well ventilated case, a top air cooler like a noctua NH-D14 or phanteks will cool equally well, and be quieter.

i currently have an aftermarket cooler and does nicely im just worried going 4-4.5ghz is goiing to over heat

Chips differ on how well you can oc. Your goal is reasonable, but not guaranteed. CPU's will slow down, or shut off if they get dangerously hot to protect themselves from damage. I would not worry much..
If you do not mess with high voltages, then you are ok.

 

[ssddx]

here is the biggest reason why people use liquid cooling loops...

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quite frankly using a liquid loop is done because it is much smaller than air cooling over the motherboard. it is a well known fact that big air coolers can not only have issues with ram height (hence why you need to use low profile ram with them) but can also have problems with video cards in pcie slots. a liquid cooler allows you to relocate the bulk of the cooler (the part with the radiator fins and fans) to an area out of the way.

also, depending on the design and length of the hoses it allows for cold air to be pulled in from outside the case which allows for far better cooling than an air cooler inside the case.

in general while true the large air coolers equal the performance of water for a fraction of the price they arent always super cheap (nh-d14 is $88, corsair 100i is $115), the size can have complications and they hang of the motherboard which can put quite a bit of stress on the board.

 

[geofelt]

sddx has some good points.
A liquid cooler may be appropriate in cases where there is a height limitation.
Most air coolers will be perhaps 160mm tall.
A normal tower type case will be 7" wide or more, allowing for a tall cooler.
In a small form factor case, a liquid cooler may be the best option.
Even then, there are some good downdraft type air coolers that work reasonably well if the case has decent airflow.

As to the ram height, I think that is a non issue.
Tall heat spreaders are mostly marketing.
They have a place for competitive ram overclockers.
Past that, low profile, or even no ram spreaders perform equally well.
Actually, low profile often sells for less than the same brand and performance spec with high spreaders.

If your motherboard is mounted vertically, as most are in a tower case, then the weight may be an issue.
A motherboard secured by all the mounting screws will usually be rigid enough.
Some cases, like the Silverstone TJ08E even have cooler supports.

Most of the time, a simple $30 cooler like the cm hyper212 will do the job without any of these drawbacks.
You might lose one or two OC multipliers.
But, it will save you money, be lightweight, and handle tall ram.