Coffee Lake Benchmarks?

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Any idea of when we'll start seeing solid benchmark data after the release of the 8700k on Oct 5th? My build is on hold until we hear the good, bad, and the ugly from our respected posters.

 

[AnimeMania]

There is a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) and nobody is going to break it by leaking benchmark data before the Oct. 5 deadline. The only reason we know so much about the Coffee Lake chips is because Intel accidentally leaked some of the info (not sure how accidental it was since it has been dominating the news and creating buzz).

 

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I didn't mean "leaked" data. I was curious as to how long after the release and people actually get these in their hands that we'll start seeing solid 3rd party benchmarks. Are you saying that 3rd party benchmarks already exist and once Coffee Lake is released that we'll see them posted as soon as release day? That would be cool

 

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As with any launch, there are NDAs and embargoes until the official launch day, which means very few leaks until then and a torrent of reviews afterwards.

Occasional leaks aside, it has always been that way with all major companies and is unlikely to change in the future.

 

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I didn't mean "leaked" data. I was curious as to how long after the release and people actually get these in their hands that we'll start seeing solid 3rd party benchmarks.

Many reviewers get their samples days to weeks prior to launch - if you look on Youtube, many techtubers posted their Coffee Lake and motherboard unbox videos last week.

 

[1LiquidPC]

The real reviews should be up on launch day, Oct. 5th. This is when the NDA is lifted and parts go on sale. There are a few sites showing links to "leaked" reviews. How valid they are could be another story. From ones I've seen, the 8700k OC's to 5Ghz territory, just like the 7700K. On high OC, they are close to Ryzen 1800X territory in multi-threaded scenarios and benches. Gaming is about the same as 7700k, since the 8700k is basically a 7700K with 50% more cores, same IPC. Productivity is where it will really shine from extra cores. Power consumption and temps are up, considering more cores in same pkg. For now this, is info should be taken with a large grain of salt. We'll know for sure in a few days.

 

[mdd1963]

I've seen a few leaked slides but with just one game, and the one FPS increase was not impressive...; hoping for better results with more games

 

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I've seen a few leaked slides but with just one game, and the one FPS increase was not impressive...; hoping for better results with more games

At similar stock clocks and similar overclocks, Coffee Lake will show little to no performance gains in most games since it has practically the same IPC as Skylake and most games don't make much use of more than four cores/threads.

Apart from a handful of exceptionally CPU-intensive games and games that go out of their way to get showcased as CPU hogs for the free publicity they get from enthusiast sites flocking to them to make faster CPUs sound more relevant than they should be, Coffee Lake will be mostly more of the same for gaming.

 

[TwilightRavens]

My theory on the "leaks" are that they are done by intel on purpose as a marketing tactic. I mean it makes sense because everyone has been asking for them to compete in the core race with AMD on mainstream. And like everyone else already knows, AMD wasn't a threat to them until Ryzen so its only logical that they did it. That and the fact this X299 is a disaster, they overthought it, andwent about it the wrong way.

I don't know about you, but there is something about Coffee Lake that gives me bad vibes. Like theres catch to it if you will. I'm willing to bet its "Oh and by the way, you know that Z270 motherboard and 7700k you bought a few months ago, about that.... its not going to be compatible." I know people have speculated it but I guess there won't be any hard evidence on that claim until the 5th.

 

[AnimeMania]

Coffee Lake will be mostly more of the same for gaming.

Mostly worse for gaming, increasing core counts, increases overheating and decreases how much you can overclock. When you increase game resolution or monitor Hz that tends to add additional strain on the GPU and not the CPU. However many fps you see a CPU can achieve at 1080p it should also be able to do at 4K resolution provided the GPU was fast enough.

Here is a leak of Coffee Lake Benches

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/another-core-i7-8700k-core-i5-8600k-review-leaks.html

 

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"Many reviewers get their samples days to weeks prior to launch - if you look on Youtube, many techtubers posted their Coffee Lake and motherboard unbox videos last week."


I take reviews from these types of people with a grain of salt. They have skin in the game, and any negative comments or reviews could certainly get them black balled for any future "early" review products from that particular manufacturer. I've seen this happen to a friend of mine who reviewed an Apple product.

I'll keep up on the pre-launch reviews, but really looking forward to Toms Hardware or a couple other sites I respect to really smoke test these suckers and give us the real dope.

 

[mdd1963]

My theory on the "leaks" are that they are done by intel on purpose as a marketing tactic. I mean it makes sense because everyone has been asking for them to compete in the core race with AMD on mainstream. And like everyone else already knows, AMD wasn't a threat to them until Ryzen so its only logical that they did it. That and the fact this X299 is a disaster, they overthought it, andwent about it the wrong way.

I don't know about you, but there is something about Coffee Lake that gives me bad vibes. Like theres catch to it if you will. I'm willing to bet its "Oh and by the way, you know that Z270 motherboard and 7700k you bought a few months ago, about that.... its not going to be compatible." I know people have speculated it but I guess there won't be any hard evidence on that claim until the 5th.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but, that's been known for about 5-6 weeks or so now..; no 8000 series CPUs on Z170/270 boads...

The pics of retail processor boxes even say, "requires 300 series board for operation" on the sides of them.... 🙁

 

[TwilightRavens]

My theory on the "leaks" are that they are done by intel on purpose as a marketing tactic. I mean it makes sense because everyone has been asking for them to compete in the core race with AMD on mainstream. And like everyone else already knows, AMD wasn't a threat to them until Ryzen so its only logical that they did it. That and the fact this X299 is a disaster, they overthought it, andwent about it the wrong way.

I don't know about you, but there is something about Coffee Lake that gives me bad vibes. Like theres catch to it if you will. I'm willing to bet its "Oh and by the way, you know that Z270 motherboard and 7700k you bought a few months ago, about that.... its not going to be compatible." I know people have speculated it but I guess there won't be any hard evidence on that claim until the 5th.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but, that's been known for about 5-6 weeks or so now..; no 8000 series CPUs on Z170/270 boads...

The pics of retail processor boxes even say, "requires 300 series board for operation" on the sides of them.... 🙁

Ah yeah I saw a post (forgot where) where someone called Gigabyte or something and they told them that. I just wasn't 100% how legit it was. Still find it strange they decided to keep it LGA 1151 and not like LGA 1152 or something like that, you would think they would do that since it woudn't even work in a Z270 motherboard anyway.

 

[mdd1963]

Coffee Lake will be mostly more of the same for gaming.

Mostly worse for gaming, increasing core counts, increases overheating and decreases how much you can overclock. When you increase game resolution or monitor Hz that tends to add additional strain on the GPU and not the CPU. However many fps you see a CPU can achieve at 1080p it should also be able to do at 4K resolution provided the GPU was fast enough.

Here is a leak of Coffee Lake Benches

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/another-core-i7-8700k-core-i5-8600k-review-leaks.html

Based on those two games.....ouch!. (Not that I was planning on bailing from my 6 month old 7700K just yet anyway. In any event, the extra 2 cores will help the avid streamers, I guess....