coffee lake system for £850

[tbgjlb]

I've had a few threads regarding my first build both useing amd and intel and am now looking at coffe lake , whilst I still look around I thought I'd ask the question

what could I get for £850 on coffee lake?
the main things it needs to do are play 1080 games at decent fps , some small productivity (office etc for home work, a little photo for home work( by the way mainly for my son's use )) a decent ability for upgrades in the future and the ability to run two monitors one for the games the other ( which I'll get at some point in the future) to run youtube,offive, spotify etc etc

It does not need to be all singing all dancing now as we will both use this to upgrade as we go new cpu here, more ram there as part of a learning experience for the both of us.

One thing that came up in the previous threads was the need not to go ssd +hdd due to cost and go hybrid instead and again upgrade in the future.

It would be interesting to hear you opinions. plus just coffe lake please, I have ideas for ryzen and kaby.

 

[lperreault21]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8350K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£166.97 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.98 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£105.76 @ More Computers)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£121.98 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£65.95 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Dual Video Card (£214.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£75.83 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£75.46 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £850.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-08 21:23 BST+0100


when your ssd fills up get a hdd.

i do want to point out what you could get with amd

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£179.94 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard (£86.04 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£121.98 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£65.95 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Dual Video Card (£214.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£75.83 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£75.46 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £857.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-08 21:27 BST+0100

Amd wrecks intel in multi core and is nearly the same in single core

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/4395185

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/4298086

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

You say you want to upgrade as you go, so I just left 8GB of RAM and no SSD. But as posted above you have the budget for more. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£171.95 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£99.99 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£69.54 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (£83.39 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card (£209.02 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£57.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£38.63 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £730.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-08 21:25 BST+0100

 

[tbgjlb]

thanks for answer I had thought from previous threads this hybrid for now
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/n28H99/seagate-firecuda-1tb-35-7200rpm-hybrid-internal-hard-drive-st1000dx002

maybe only 8gb ram for now unless it would give a big improvement and fit budget
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/BYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk8gx4m2b3000c15

and I think the 6gb 1060 as a main choice but for cost go with the 3gb

 

[tbgjlb]

would ryzen do two monitors

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

Yes Ryzen will do two monitors if you have the GPU for it, which any modern GPU will support two monitors. I would encourage Ryzen for the fact that AMD will support the chipset/socket longer than Intel will support theirs.

 

[tbgjlb]

how much loss of fps would I get and I had thought 8gb ram to go i5 8400 upgrade ram later

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

Ryzen vs Intel frame rate depends on the game, you would have to look up the benchmarks to find out exactly how much. I do really like the value of the six core i5-8400. Some say it's bad that you have to spend extra on a Z370 motherboard; but I think it's a great idea because in when you decide the i5 isn't enough any more you can easily upgrade to a K-series i7 and overclock it without having to switch motherboards.

8GB instead of 16GB will only affect you in a few games today, but the difference will increase with newer games. Again, I don't really know how much fps difference it would be.

 

[tbgjlb]

my thoughts so far
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JWmXH

 

[lperreault21]

would ryzen do two monitors

yes. the gpu is what decides if you can have 2 or more monitors. All new gpu made in the past 12+ years can do that

 

[tbgjlb]

I had a look around and read a couple of articles that suggest the loss of at most 5fps if streaming video on second monitor so as long as I get decent game fps it should be ok, which now leave just two things running through my tiny mind ,
1.ryzen or coffee lake, of which there seems to be arguments for both depending on who you talk to.
2. I believe ryzen does'nt have its own graphics like intel do and so my thought is if fps was to suffer using 2 on the one gpu could I run second monitor of the intel chip and just use gpu for games, which I believe can't be done with ryzen and it no graphics thingy

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

You can run the second monitor on the iGPU of the Intel CPU; but again the loss of fps from running both monitors on the same GPU would be very minimal.