Coffee Lake vs. Ryzen

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I have been looking at the differences between Coffee Lake performance and Ryzen performance but can only find it in relation to video games. I want to know what the better option is for a creative professional doing heavy editing and compositing?
The reason I don’t give much weight to game benchmarks is because games rely heavily on the GPU whereas editing is more CPU intensive. Any thoughts?
 
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Darkbreeze
Bottom line on overclocking is usually something like "cheap parts equals cheap overclock". If you want a stable, full time, long lasting overclock, plan to put some money into a better board, good case fans, a CPU cooler that sits in the upper 40% of what's out there, a very good power supply and high end memory.

Sure, you can overclock on a low end board with low end parts, but the quality and stability of your overclock, plus the longevity of your CPU, will probably reflect what you did, or did not, put into it.
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From what I have seen they are about even in this area at stock settings (Not using motherboard enhanced overclocking). Although of note it seems Intel released the Coffee Lake chips earlier than they were planning due to Ryzen and from the time period they were planning to release it would have made the Coffee Lake chips go up against AMD's Pinnacle Ridge chips (Ryzen 2x00 desktop series) that are rumored to be released around February. This will sway things more towards AMD as far as performance goes and from the way the stocks of Intel chips have been unless you are very lucky you likely won't see a Coffee Lake chip in stock until around the time AMD releases their chips.
 
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Yes, Anandtech bench has comparisons based on chip model though. In order to show a fair comparison I would have to know the chip models in question which is why I asked for them.
 
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What is your budget? And what programs are you using specifically? That will make determining a product for you much easier. You mention "creative professional doing heavy editing and compositing?" Which might lean too an i9 or ThreadRipper, and not mainstream platforms.
 
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Right now I believe the i7-7820x is the best combination of single core AND multi-threaded performance with COST as an additional factor, for any system wanting to be capable for graphics or video creation at a professional level. Even the Threadripper 1950x which is four hundred dollars more can only beat it in a handful of results across a wide array of real world AND synthetic benchmarks.

It also has support for more RAM than Coffee Lake Z370, being a Skylake-X chip, since all of the current Coffee lake chips only support up to 64GB of RAM which is not terribly impressive as an option for professional content creation, video encoding at high resolutions or high end professional workstations.
 
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^^^Yes, yes they were. But we all know that the bench is hard to beat for sheer volume of comparable benchmarks. Unfortunately, if we don't know WHAT cpus we are looking at, there are NO useful reviews because, well, how can we point to a review of something we have no information about.
 
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Sorry for the late responses. I was looking at the Ryzen 7 1700 or the Coffee Lake i7 8700K. Overclocking with Adobe Premiere Pro CC, After Effects CC, Blender, Hitfilm; 4K footage shot at highish bitrates with lots of VFX. The main thing I’m wondering is if I’d get a big performance boost over locking the 8700K on a more expensive motherboard vs. the performance I’d get out of the cheaper 1700/MoBo combo?
 
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Bottom line on overclocking is usually something like "cheap parts equals cheap overclock". If you want a stable, full time, long lasting overclock, plan to put some money into a better board, good case fans, a CPU cooler that sits in the upper 40% of what's out there, a very good power supply and high end memory.

Sure, you can overclock on a low end board with low end parts, but the quality and stability of your overclock, plus the longevity of your CPU, will probably reflect what you did, or did not, put into it.
 
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I agree with darkbreeze, to build a system that will sustain an overclock ,like an 8700K, that is going to be encoding and running blender hours on end every day will require a high end motherboard capable of 10-12 phase power delivery, high quality RAM, liquid cooling solution, tier 1 or 2 PSU, and a high air flow case.
 
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Well, I don't know that liquid cooling is essential, but pretty damn good air, or liquid, would be nice to see if you don't want thermal issues.

I run a 6700k@4.6Ghz on an NH-U14S and I have no issues. Trying to do that on a Gammaxx 400 or 212 EVO though would be a different story. When it comes to cooling and overclocks, there is no "overkill". The more cooling potential you have, the more performance, stability or longevity, and usually all three, you will have.
 
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Thank you for your suggestions and advice! I really appreciate it!
 
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