CoH: Copywrite Issues

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shadows wrote:

> On 2005-01-29, James Garvin <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Is it just me or is Marvel turing into SCO?
>>
>>Anyway, if you want a laugh check out:
>>http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20050124
>
>
> It was discussed here before. CoH let people dress up as
> characters from Marvel comics and use similar names. Marvel is
> pissed and wants a cut.

Ok...why? Haven't they hear of fair use...duffman...oh ya!

> Seems reasonable.

It does? How so?
 
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Thusly shadows <shadows@whitefang.com> Spake Unto All:

>It was discussed here before. CoH let people dress up as
>characters from Marvel comics and use similar names. Marvel is
>pissed and wants a cut.
>
>Seems reasonable.

At least until you realize that the Marvel characters are derivative
of earlier non-Marvel works, ie they're themselves guilty of what they
accuse the CoH players of.
 
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On 2005-01-29, Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Thusly shadows <shadows@whitefang.com> Spake Unto All:
>
>>It was discussed here before. CoH let people dress up as
>>characters from Marvel comics and use similar names. Marvel is
>>pissed and wants a cut.
>>
>>Seems reasonable.
>
> At least until you realize that the Marvel characters are derivative
> of earlier non-Marvel works, ie they're themselves guilty of what they
> accuse the CoH players of.

Then someone should have sued Marvel :)

Mind you Intellectual Property is a very big field. Marvel is
likely suing over the *expression* of the idea and not the idea
itself.
 
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Thusly shadows <shadows@whitefang.com> Spake Unto All:

>> At least until you realize that the Marvel characters are derivative
>> of earlier non-Marvel works, ie they're themselves guilty of what they
>> accuse the CoH players of.
>
>Then someone should have sued Marvel :)

Yeah, DC probably should have.
 
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In article <slrncvnq15.2hmo.shadows@helena.whitefang.com>,
shadows@whitefang.com says...
> On 2005-01-29, James Garvin <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Is it just me or is Marvel turing into SCO?
> >
> > Anyway, if you want a laugh check out:
> > http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20050124
>
> It was discussed here before. CoH let people dress up as
> characters from Marvel comics and use similar names. Marvel is
> pissed and wants a cut.
>
> Seems reasonable.
>
>

You are confusing copyright protection and trademark protections. No way
does Marvel win this lawsuit.
--
Rob Berryhill
 
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On 2005-01-30, James Garvin <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote:
> shadows wrote:
>
>> On 2005-01-29, James Garvin <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Is it just me or is Marvel turing into SCO?
>>>
>>>Anyway, if you want a laugh check out:
>>>http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20050124
>>
>>
>> It was discussed here before. CoH let people dress up as
>> characters from Marvel comics and use similar names. Marvel is
>> pissed and wants a cut.
>
> Ok...why? Haven't they hear of fair use...duffman...oh ya!

Fair use doesn't apply here. I can tell you that without being a
lawyer and just by having read up on fair use and knowing what it
means which you seem not to.

Duffman in the Simpsons is completely different.

>> Seems reasonable.
>
> It does? How so?

As I said before if you spend billions of dollars expressing an
idea then you will want to protect that expression since it
becomes in your interest to.

What do you care anyway? It's between Cryptic and Marvel.
 
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shadows wrote:

>>Ok...why? Haven't they hear of fair use...duffman...oh ya!
>
>
> Fair use doesn't apply here. I can tell you that without being a
> lawyer and just by having read up on fair use and knowing what it
> means which you seem not to.
> Duffman in the Simpsons is completely different.

I was kidding...Anyway, my point was:
a) these a private individuals infringing on TRADEMARK (maybe)
b) the private individuals aren't profiting, but CoH is...however, they
aren't profiting directly off the usage of said characters.

> As I said before if you spend billions of dollars expressing an
> idea then you will want to protect that expression since it
> becomes in your interest to.

DC should sue the pants of marvel...hell, the Greeks and Romans should
sue the hell out of DC... ;-)

> What do you care anyway? It's between Cryptic and Marvel.

Because this is infringing on sanity. What is the point of suing
someone and pissing off your fanbase?
 
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Thusly Rob Berryhill <rob_berryhill@hotmail.com> Spake Unto All:

>You are confusing copyright protection and trademark protections. No way
>does Marvel win this lawsuit.

They don't have to win. They just have to ruin the private individuals
who don't do as they're told with legal fees.
 
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 02:08:55 +0100, Mean_Chlorine wrote:

> Thusly shadows <shadows@whitefang.com> Spake Unto All:
>
>>> At least until you realize that the Marvel characters are derivative
>>> of earlier non-Marvel works, ie they're themselves guilty of what they
>>> accuse the CoH players of.
>>
>>Then someone should have sued Marvel :)
>
> Yeah, DC probably should have.
Marvel only wants the money to pay Stan Lee. 😉
--
RJB
1/31/2005 12:37:34 PM

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different
results."
-Albert Einstein
 
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RJB wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 02:08:55 +0100, Mean_Chlorine wrote:
>
>
>>Thusly shadows <shadows@whitefang.com> Spake Unto All:
>>
>>
>>>>At least until you realize that the Marvel characters are derivative
>>>>of earlier non-Marvel works, ie they're themselves guilty of what they
>>>>accuse the CoH players of.
>>>
>>>Then someone should have sued Marvel :)
>>
>>Yeah, DC probably should have.
>
> Marvel only wants the money to pay Stan Lee. 😉

I thought Stan Lee was the Hulk*? ;-)

*Obscure???? Simpson's anyone?
 
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:18:31 -0700, James Garvin wrote:

> RJB wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 02:08:55 +0100, Mean_Chlorine wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Thusly shadows <shadows@whitefang.com> Spake Unto All:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>At least until you realize that the Marvel characters are derivative
>>>>>of earlier non-Marvel works, ie they're themselves guilty of what they
>>>>>accuse the CoH players of.
>>>>
>>>>Then someone should have sued Marvel :)
>>>
>>>Yeah, DC probably should have.
>>
>> Marvel only wants the money to pay Stan Lee. 😉
>
> I thought Stan Lee was the Hulk*? ;-)
>
> *Obscure???? Simpson's anyone?

"Really, I got it to work once..." LOL
--
RJB
1/31/2005 1:35:48 PM

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
not sure about the former."
-Albert Einstein
 
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In article <V8SKd.13981$Vj3.4985@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>, Joiner wrote:
>
> "James Garvin" <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:KYidnYRVouBfsGbcRVn-vg@comcast.com...
>> Is it just me or is Marvel turing into SCO?
>>
>> Anyway, if you want a laugh check out:
>> http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20050124
>
> I dont get that comic
>
> Its daredevil as the lawyer, but...its not funny

It was a signal that Marvel characters were going to be "infringed"
in the following strips.

--
Neil Cerutti
New Jersey is a beautiful city. --Jason Kidd
 
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:40:59 -0700, James Garvin
<jgarvin2004@comcast.net> dared speak in front of ME:

>Is it just me or is Marvel turing into SCO?

You've got the timeline backwards. SCO is copying a longrunning
pattern of behaviour by both Marvel and DC.

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