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It's been picking at my mind for a while. Seem any good?
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Cheers,
Ken
It's been picking at my mind for a while. Seem any good?
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Cheers,
Ken
Combo: Goblin Sharpshooter / Shriveling Rot
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Oberon wrote:
> It's been picking at my mind for a while. Seem any good?
Seems damn good to me. You can clear the other side of the board in a single
turn.
<pricing cards>
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Gravity: it's not just a good idea, it's the law.
Oberon wrote:
> It's been picking at my mind for a while. Seem any good?
Seems damn good to me. You can clear the other side of the board in a single
turn.
<pricing cards>
--
Gravity: it's not just a good idea, it's the law.
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Subject: "Combo: Goblin Sharpshooter / Shriveling Rot"
It is simply not as good as just holding back your creatures and casting a
mass destruction spell. Yes, given enough mana and luck, you could
theroetically *maybe* end up with your own creatures surviving, and *maybe*
cause some life loss to your opponent... but it takes 2 cards and a *lot* of
mana. You would rarely pull off a combo like this in competitive
environments, particularly after your opponent figures out your strategy.
This might work (once?) in a non-competitive Type 2 environment. The problem
is that this combo only works well against decks with a lot of creatures,
and some of the most competitive T2 decks around now don't have many (R/W
Slide comes to mind). Others can sacrifice their creatures in response to
your combo (entwined) to avoid life loss, and recover from mass destruction
(Goblin Bidding). Most will beat combo decks before they get going by
wipeing out the Sharpshooters and and/or applying beatdown before you can
get your combo out (Ravager-Affinity comes to mind here).
But assuming you are not discouraged, and still want to let playtesting
decide wether it is a workable combo, (rather than armchair players like
myself,) lets think of a decklist with some other cards that have synergy
with your combo.
4 Goblin Sharpshooter
4 Shriveling Rot
4 Arc-Slogger (synergy with cards above, survives after those below are
played)
4 Pyroclasm (also combos with (both parts of) Shriveling Rot)
4 Slice & Dice "
4 Starstorm "
4 Goblin Goon (survives the cards above, capitalizes on your opponent's
creatures being destroyed or not being cast in the first place)
4 Goblin Sledder (one-drop for early game, obvious synergy with GS, rescues
you from life loss due to your own SR)
4 Talisman of Indulgence (need mana accel & extra B if you plan to entwine
the SR)
4 Bloodstained Mire
<10 Swamps (just enough to cast SR)
>10 Mountains (all the rest, maybe around 25 total mana sources)
.... It needs some more cards; the rest of the slots could filled up with the
ususal R/B aggro cards (see Goblin-Bidding(/Clamp?) decklists), just with
more mass-damage, and possibly skewed more towards black. Or, you could try
something completely different, based on R/B cycling (4 Lightning Rifts 8
cycling lands etc.). Excercise to the reader: Can you think of more
synergistic cards? 🙂
-War_Pig5
P.S.
Please don't make your future posts subject-dependent. It ticks off the
local sticklers 🙂
Subject: "Combo: Goblin Sharpshooter / Shriveling Rot"
It is simply not as good as just holding back your creatures and casting a
mass destruction spell. Yes, given enough mana and luck, you could
theroetically *maybe* end up with your own creatures surviving, and *maybe*
cause some life loss to your opponent... but it takes 2 cards and a *lot* of
mana. You would rarely pull off a combo like this in competitive
environments, particularly after your opponent figures out your strategy.
This might work (once?) in a non-competitive Type 2 environment. The problem
is that this combo only works well against decks with a lot of creatures,
and some of the most competitive T2 decks around now don't have many (R/W
Slide comes to mind). Others can sacrifice their creatures in response to
your combo (entwined) to avoid life loss, and recover from mass destruction
(Goblin Bidding). Most will beat combo decks before they get going by
wipeing out the Sharpshooters and and/or applying beatdown before you can
get your combo out (Ravager-Affinity comes to mind here).
But assuming you are not discouraged, and still want to let playtesting
decide wether it is a workable combo, (rather than armchair players like
myself,) lets think of a decklist with some other cards that have synergy
with your combo.
4 Goblin Sharpshooter
4 Shriveling Rot
4 Arc-Slogger (synergy with cards above, survives after those below are
played)
4 Pyroclasm (also combos with (both parts of) Shriveling Rot)
4 Slice & Dice "
4 Starstorm "
4 Goblin Goon (survives the cards above, capitalizes on your opponent's
creatures being destroyed or not being cast in the first place)
4 Goblin Sledder (one-drop for early game, obvious synergy with GS, rescues
you from life loss due to your own SR)
4 Talisman of Indulgence (need mana accel & extra B if you plan to entwine
the SR)
4 Bloodstained Mire
<10 Swamps (just enough to cast SR)
>10 Mountains (all the rest, maybe around 25 total mana sources)
.... It needs some more cards; the rest of the slots could filled up with the
ususal R/B aggro cards (see Goblin-Bidding(/Clamp?) decklists), just with
more mass-damage, and possibly skewed more towards black. Or, you could try
something completely different, based on R/B cycling (4 Lightning Rifts 8
cycling lands etc.). Excercise to the reader: Can you think of more
synergistic cards? 🙂
-War_Pig5
P.S.
Please don't make your future posts subject-dependent. It ticks off the
local sticklers 🙂
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War_Pig5 wrote:
> P.S.
> Please don't make your future posts subject-dependent. It ticks off
> the local sticklers 🙂
What are you supposed to do? Label your post "Generic Post #4853"?
--
Gravity: it's not just a good idea, it's the law.
War_Pig5 wrote:
> P.S.
> Please don't make your future posts subject-dependent. It ticks off
> the local sticklers 🙂
What are you supposed to do? Label your post "Generic Post #4853"?
--
Gravity: it's not just a good idea, it's the law.
Archived from groups: rec.games.trading-cards.magic.strategy (More info?)
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:17:35 -0500, "Zaxx" <bogus@cox.net> wrote:
>War_Pig5 wrote:
>
>> P.S.
>> Please don't make your future posts subject-dependent. It ticks off
>> the local sticklers 🙂
>
>What are you supposed to do? Label your post "Generic Post #4853"?
Well, no. You can still make your subject relevant to your post, but
you should (for etiquette's sake) put all the information in the body
of the message as well. There still exist some newsreaders where it
is inconvenient to look up the message subject when reading a great
number of posts.
-- pseudosoldier
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:17:35 -0500, "Zaxx" <bogus@cox.net> wrote:
>War_Pig5 wrote:
>
>> P.S.
>> Please don't make your future posts subject-dependent. It ticks off
>> the local sticklers 🙂
>
>What are you supposed to do? Label your post "Generic Post #4853"?
Well, no. You can still make your subject relevant to your post, but
you should (for etiquette's sake) put all the information in the body
of the message as well. There still exist some newsreaders where it
is inconvenient to look up the message subject when reading a great
number of posts.
-- pseudosoldier
Archived from groups: rec.games.trading-cards.magic.strategy (More info?)
"pseudosoldier" <pseudosoldier@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4076c70a.508816499@news-server.hot.rr.com...
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:17:35 -0500, "Zaxx" <bogus@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >War_Pig5 wrote:
> >
> >> P.S.
> >> Please don't make your future posts subject-dependent. It ticks off
> >> the local sticklers 🙂
> >
> >What are you supposed to do? Label your post "Generic Post #4853"?
>
> Well, no. You can still make your subject relevant to your post, but
> you should (for etiquette's sake) put all the information in the body
> of the message as well. There still exist some newsreaders where it
> is inconvenient to look up the message subject when reading a great
> number of posts.
>
> -- pseudosoldier
Ok, that almost clears up my confusion over War_Pig5's comment. I really
had no idea what I'd done to offend. Don't take my meaning wrong, it was a
gentle rebuke to be sure, I just didn't understand it.
And to make sure that I _do_ understand it, let me try to clarify: I should
have been a bit more verbose in my post body, so that a hypothetical reader
wouldn't have to read the subject line to understand what I was referring
to. Is this correct?
I appreciate the input. I think I'll try to put together a deck to test
this possible synergy. My group plays a lot of Emperor, and the goal of
those games is usually to come up with some interesting combinations, as
opposed to just beat down. As the Emperor in such a game, I might be able
to get out a couple GS and an unentwined SR, and kill off all of the
opposing General's critters (and any Emperor critters that have been moved
into range), while also doing a point of damage to one of the Generals for
each critter sent to the graveyard.
--
Cheers,
Ken
"pseudosoldier" <pseudosoldier@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4076c70a.508816499@news-server.hot.rr.com...
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:17:35 -0500, "Zaxx" <bogus@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >War_Pig5 wrote:
> >
> >> P.S.
> >> Please don't make your future posts subject-dependent. It ticks off
> >> the local sticklers 🙂
> >
> >What are you supposed to do? Label your post "Generic Post #4853"?
>
> Well, no. You can still make your subject relevant to your post, but
> you should (for etiquette's sake) put all the information in the body
> of the message as well. There still exist some newsreaders where it
> is inconvenient to look up the message subject when reading a great
> number of posts.
>
> -- pseudosoldier
Ok, that almost clears up my confusion over War_Pig5's comment. I really
had no idea what I'd done to offend. Don't take my meaning wrong, it was a
gentle rebuke to be sure, I just didn't understand it.
And to make sure that I _do_ understand it, let me try to clarify: I should
have been a bit more verbose in my post body, so that a hypothetical reader
wouldn't have to read the subject line to understand what I was referring
to. Is this correct?
I appreciate the input. I think I'll try to put together a deck to test
this possible synergy. My group plays a lot of Emperor, and the goal of
those games is usually to come up with some interesting combinations, as
opposed to just beat down. As the Emperor in such a game, I might be able
to get out a couple GS and an unentwined SR, and kill off all of the
opposing General's critters (and any Emperor critters that have been moved
into range), while also doing a point of damage to one of the Generals for
each critter sent to the graveyard.
--
Cheers,
Ken
Archived from groups: rec.games.trading-cards.magic.strategy (More info?)
Oberon <friend@public.com> wrote:
>> Well, no. You can still make your subject relevant to your post, but
>> you should (for etiquette's sake) put all the information in the body
>> of the message as well. There still exist some newsreaders where it
>> is inconvenient to look up the message subject when reading a great
>> number of posts.
>
>And to make sure that I _do_ understand it, let me try to clarify: I should
>have been a bit more verbose in my post body, so that a hypothetical reader
>wouldn't have to read the subject line to understand what I was referring
>to. Is this correct?
Right. As well as some newsreaders putting it in a faraway spot, some
readers-of-news have formed the habit of starting where the post starts
and going down, and rarely-if-ever looking up top to see what the Subject:
header is. This habit is generally more useful on other groups, where threads
actually last long enough for 'thread drift' to occur; Magic-group threads
generally don't stray much off their subject...
Dave
--
\/David DeLaney posting from dbd@vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
Oberon <friend@public.com> wrote:
>> Well, no. You can still make your subject relevant to your post, but
>> you should (for etiquette's sake) put all the information in the body
>> of the message as well. There still exist some newsreaders where it
>> is inconvenient to look up the message subject when reading a great
>> number of posts.
>
>And to make sure that I _do_ understand it, let me try to clarify: I should
>have been a bit more verbose in my post body, so that a hypothetical reader
>wouldn't have to read the subject line to understand what I was referring
>to. Is this correct?
Right. As well as some newsreaders putting it in a faraway spot, some
readers-of-news have formed the habit of starting where the post starts
and going down, and rarely-if-ever looking up top to see what the Subject:
header is. This habit is generally more useful on other groups, where threads
actually last long enough for 'thread drift' to occur; Magic-group threads
generally don't stray much off their subject...
Dave
--
\/David DeLaney posting from dbd@vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
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