Compability questions and more

[xyr]

I'm planning to buy a $1300 PC for gaming and my questions are down with the specs.

Specs:

Intel i5-4690 w/ beQuiet Shadow Rock 2 (or should I take some other cooler for my CPU?)
MSI Z97-G43 or GIGABYTE Z97X Gaming 3 (help me decide, the price tag is pretty much same)
GIGABYTE GTX 970 OC 4GB
2x4GB Kingston HyperX Fury 1600Mhz CL10 (or would I need 16GB of RAM?)
Corsair VS650 (Is it good enough for my build?)
Samsung EVO 250GB SSD (I'm going to take 1TB 7200rpm SATA3 HDD from my old PC)

And all of this will be fitted in a Corsair Carbide Spec-03

Thanks in forward

 

[tiny voices]

You cannot overclock that CPU so the cooler is pointless. The stock cooler will be fine.

The motherboard is also pointless as it is designed for overclocking. An H97 board should be paired with the CPU.

8gb RAM is plenty.

PSU is OK, but not great.

 

[xyr]

One thing is that the stock cooler looks ugly in my opinion , but now I'm thinking is there any point in buying 4690K and a better cooler? I have not overclocked before, but does it make the CPU that much better?

 

[tiny voices]

No it does not really improve game performance at all. It is a hobby more than anything.

 

[xyr]

I also read that someone said in some forum that his i5-4590 (I wanted 4690) reaches 90c sometimes, can that be true? I'm sorry I built my first PC 2.5 years ago and it was an horrible fail so I want to be sure this time

 

[tiny voices]

He probably has poor airflow or a cooler not installed correctly.

The stock cooler should keep that CPU under 70c no problem.

If you REALLY want to get a cooler, something like a Hyper tx3 is all I would recommend.

 

[DonkeyOatie]

Generic solution to this question

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($187.93 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($64.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($128.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($339.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $980.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-26 12:21 EDT-0400

Plenty of wiggle room for bling.
The RAM is CAS 8.

Do you need OS, Monitor, or Keyboard/mouse?

 

[tiny voices]

^ like it except the PSU. It is a tier 3 unit with junk capacitors.

 

[xyr]

Okay, thanks man for your support, my final question now, is this PC OK?

i5-4690 w/ Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO (went with your good and cheap suggestion )
MSI H97 Gaming 3
GIGABYTE GTX 970 OC 4GB
2x4GB Kingston HyperX Fury 1600Mhz CL10
Corsair VS650
Samsung EVO 250GB SSD
Corsair Carbide Spec-03

If you would change anything more, then what?

 

[tiny voices]

PSU is not ideal but it will work.

The build looks solid to me!

 

[xyr]

Should I go for the CX600M? It's 20€ more but 50W less

 

[tiny voices]

Ehh, thats about the same quality.

 

[DonkeyOatie]

I would use CL8 memory.

@Tiny Voices I'm using the newegg list and I think that the PSU I recommended is Tier2b.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($187.93 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($64.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($128.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($339.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1005.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-26 12:31 EDT-0400

this is Tier 2.

Our PSU recommendations are
Corsair AX, TX, HX, and/or VX

 

[xyr]

Hmm, are Corsair PSUs bad then? What brand would you recommend?

 

[xyr]

DonkeyOatie, I'm from Estonia and my price here is $1300 for those parts . Is CL8 that much better than CL10?

 

[tiny voices]

You had a CSM unit which is tier 3 and now you have an RM uit which is tier 2b. I would get an XFX unit for cheaper and better quality.

 

[tiny voices]

DonkeyOatie, I'm from Estonia and my price here is $1300 for those parts . Is CL8 that much better than CL10?

No, you will have no noticeable difference.

 

[DonkeyOatie]

OOPS. Sorry.

No, it is only a couple of FPS better.

Corsair PSUs are not all junk or bad. XFX, EVGA, Antec, and Seasonic are recommended brands.

Here is the local guide we are working from.

https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/t/45344.aspx

 

[xyr]

http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Toiteplokid-PSU-PSU-600W-650W It is estonian, but the names of PSUs are the same, can you guys check from there which would you take from that site? I want something for my build, not an overkill, but not something bad.

 

[tiny voices]

http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Toiteplokid-PSU-PSU-600W-650W/Seasonic-SS-600ET-600W-80-Plus-pronks-bulk-39332

or

http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Toiteplokid-PSU-PSU-600W-650W/Seasonic-S12II-Series-S12II-620-Bronze-620-Watt-80-PLUS-Bronze-Certified-SS-620GB-28117

 

[DonkeyOatie]

http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Toiteplokid-PSU-PSU-600W-650W/Seasonic-G-Series-G-650-650-Watt-80-PLUS-Gold-Certified-SSR-650RM-39312

For a start. One of my students is Latvian, can he make any sense of Estonian?

Both of the ones found by Tiny Voices are cheaper and work as well. I started at the other end

 

[xyr]

No, lithuanian is a LOT different than estonian, finnish is somewhat the same, but not really , but at the moment I picked the Seasonic that Tiny Voices recommended

 

[xyr]

I have a question about airflow. How will it look like on the Carbide Spec 03? I attached a picture and I'm not sure, I think PSUs blow air up from the vent and the GPU blows down onto the PSU so that will make a weird airflow. Should the bottom fan pull air in, or push air out? Or what would you suggest for my airflow?

I hope you can understand the picture I made in MS Paint

EDIT: typo

 

[tiny voices]

your PSU is wrong. It will pull air from underneath the case and exhaust it out the back

Also, the GPU blows up not down.

You do not need that many case fans. Don;t even bother with a bottom one.

 

[xyr]

Thanks