Compare my two builds. Which one has better quality/price ratio? What would you change?

[koRnlover]

Hello guys.

So, I have these two builds, both < 1000euros (the mobo must have wifi, m-atx prefered since i want better mobility, and i can get the components as low as the price listed in the builds, cheaper than listed in pc.partpicker).

The first I believe have best quality/price ratio, because some components are just like 20/25euro difference in price, but apparently significantly better in quality/performance.
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/kornlover/saved/LqrRsY
(in this build, I couldnt find the correct GPU in pc.partpicker, so here it is: (SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X TRI-X 280X 3gb-gddr5):
https://www.cyberport.de/sapphire-radeon-r9-280x-oc-vapor-x-tri-x-3gb-gddr5-2xdvi-hdmi-dp-full-retail-2E01-7CX_792.html

The second one is a little cheaper, but is the performance/quality significantly worse?
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/b/MJf8TW

I hope you guys could tell me what you think, since I intend to order the components next Thursday or Friday.

Thanks in advance.

 

[HideOut]

be aware of two things first. the 120gig SSD's are really to small in today's world. You can get a 240/256 class drive for only a few euro/dollars more often. Save a few bucks on your PSU (650 is overkill for that setup unless you are going to add a second video card) and use that towards the larger SSD. the "K" CPU is unlocked. while stock its no faster it will overclock well. i f you play to overclock you'll need to think about improving your cooling a bit. if you are going to move it around sometimes then air is best as water can be worrisome if you move it alot (same for a very large/heavy air cooler, it flexes the mobo alot more). The coolermaster hypter 212 series is a good bang for the buck air cooler. if you arnt going to OC then just use the non K CPU and save the cash. At that point the stock cooler is fine (although the hypter 212 or something like that would be much quieter)

overall its a fine build though. You could also consider using a larger HDD instead of the 1TB one. Look around for a bartain. I recenly got 4TB drives (WD green series, saves power and is only slightly slower) for only 130 USD so about 100E. That'd be alot more space for media and such for you. 3TB drives are a sweet spot for price/space efficiency if not on a huge sale. if you have an old HDD drive laying around you could use it for the short time and just save the cash for now, till you catch a large drive on sale (holiday sales are coming soon).

What do you plan to do with this machine? if its a gamer it'll be a nice build for a 2K setup. Not strong enough for 4K gaming but overkill for 1080P. if you are just going to do 1080P you could go down a price bracket on your video card to the 270 class card and maybe to a lower pice CPU as well. Save the cash and upgrade a bit later if and only if needed.

 

[koRnlover]

Damn man, thanks for the super constructive reply. That's what I was looking for!

You can get a 240/256 class drive for only a few euro/dollars more often

Which do you recommend? I saw the 250gb Samsung 840 EVO for 109.90, think its pretty good, uh? -> https://www.cyberport.de/samsung-ssd-840-evo-series-250gb-2-5zoll-mlc-sata600---basic-3306-01F_497.html

Save a few bucks on your PSU

I was playing safe, since I don't really knew much about the power I would need. But no, I dont intend to crossfire/sli in a near future. I would like a gold+ one tho, maybe Corsair CX550w fits? -> https://www.cyberport.de/corsair-cs-series-cs550m-atx-2-4-aktiv-pfc-netzteil-80plus-gold-modular--2B10-02A_896.html

if you play to overclock you'll need to think about improving your cooling a bit.

I dont intend to upgrade the system in a near future (say 2/3 years), so that's why I thought if I spent a little bit more in a 'K' CPU (thinkin in the future) I could do the OC when I feel that I need a little more juice to run at 1080p max settings the games to come (this answers your last doubt of my intentions for the rig and also why I dont have a cooler right now, but if I see I need a quiter one, I'll check the one you suggested). Also, the difference between an i5 4590 and the 4690k is only 27Euros here... Isn't it worth to buy the 'K'?

if you are just going to do 1080P you could go down a price bracket on your video card to the 270 class card and maybe to a lower pice CPU as well.

GPU: You think I will be able to play 1080p max settings all games in a near future with this card (270x)? Or I will need to upgrade it later (say, 1 year) to achieve that? Also, between a decent 270x and the lowest 280x, which one would you get, thinking in price/performance?
CPU: Which would be the CPU that would not bottleneck the chosen GPU? I mean, I think an i5 is the best choice (thinking in a future upgrade as well), since I prefer Intel over AMD for several reasons. I thought getting the 4460 or the 4590 (only 10Euros difference between both in my country), or would you downgrade even more here, to upgrade later?
But, as i said above, only 27 Euros difference to get the 4690k... That's why im so indecise, don't know if it's worth or not get the best one right now..

if you have an old HDD drive laying around you could use it for the short time and just save the cash for now, till you catch a large drive on sale (holiday sales are coming soon).

Yes I have. I think you are right here, I will wait to get a large one, since I dont need it for now. Only the SSD for gaming.

 

[koRnlover]

Still waitting for your opinion HideOut!

Meanwhile, I updated my rig based on your opinion and my objective for it.
I originally wanted to spent the least possible, while being able to play all games at 1080p max settings. Nevertheless, my doubts concerns if its worth spending 20Euros more in some of the components, to get the best ones, because I dont mind spending 100euros more and get a rig that lasts for 1/2 years more, if you know what I mean.

So, check this out and tell me what you think guys, which rig has better performance/price ratio? Or if you have another build better for the price, feel free to share.

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/kornlover/saved/kf2WGX

What I could not find in pc.partpicker, was the cooler you suggested, CM hyper 212 plus for 29Euros more. I think I must have this (for compensate the smaller case, CM130 elite) or pay 20Euros more for the bigger case (bitfenix prodigy), so it does not overheats.

Share your thoughts!

 

[Vic 40]

What I could not find in pc.partpicker, was the cooler you suggested, CM hyper 212 plus for 29Euros more. I think I must have this (for compensate the smaller case, CM130 elite) or pay 20Euros more for the bigger case (bitfenix prodigy), so it does not overheats.

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You couldn't find that cooler because of the cooler master case.they are not compatibel.for a cooler like that do you need a case like the bitfenix anyway.
For a cpu like the one you chose should the stock cooler do fine btw.

Some changes,
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/Ph9FmG
the cpu you chose is more expensive now than this one.If you don't want to overclock would the 4460 or so be good enough.This cooler would do fine then too,
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/zalman-cpu-cooler-cnps10xoptima
or even,
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/arctic-cooling-cpu-cooler-freezer7prorev2

 

[koRnlover]

You couldn't find that cooler because of the cooler master case.they are not compatibel.for a cooler like that do you need a case like the bitfenix anyway.

Oh, thanks that was silly of me not checking that .

the cpu you chose is more expensive now than this one.If you don't want to overclock would the 4460 or so be good enough.

Yes, you are right if you see in pc.partpicker. If you check on caseking or cyberport.de, (and even on my country shops) that is not true. Furthermore, the 4460 is only 5 euros cheaper than the 4590 (not according to pc.partpicker as I said, I found many cheaper components in other websites doing manual research).
I think I'll be for the 4590, I'm not overclocking by now. But I'll stick with the z97 board since it is only 15Euro more than the older ones.
What I would like to know tho is if the 4690k is worth the 30E more?

About the coolers, thanks for the sugestions. Which one do you think its the best bet, IYO?

 

[Vic 40]

Which cpu you get is up to you,both will do fine,neither will be able to get overclocked.Maybe on a "Z" motherboard that they can be set at their max. turbo speed for all cores all the time,google that.

Wether the 4690K,if you can get that one and it should be available,is worth the extra money is up to you.You must want to overclock,right now it doesn't make a difference,but later when the cpu might become the bottleneck you can overclock and make it one of the fastest parts again.So imo it will expand the systems life span.
If the extra money can get you a better gpu is it worth to look into that,but the gpu is the part that you're going to upgrade the fastest anyway.The cpu will outlive that anyway,means i would get one that could be overclocked.

Just make sure for yourself that you actually want to overclock,doesn't have to be right now,but for the future.

For the cooler would the one out of my build be my choice,especially when overclocking.The evo can be found with the bitfenix in the partpicker list too.For a cpu like the ones you chose is the arctic one good enough and not to loud afaik.
I have the "brother" of the zalman i chose and it's not the easiest to install.it's a good cooler none the less.The arctic one is smaller than the others so not as intrusive as those and should be relatively easy to install from what i've seen.