compatible graphic card for amd athlon 64 x2 dual core processor 4800+

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What is the best graphic card for amd athlon(tm) 64 x2 dual core processor 4800+ 2.50 GHz that can play gta 5?

my pc specs:
2 GB ram ddr kingston
powerlogic atx-600-w psu
160 gb seagate barracuda

 
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This may be your best bet. I would suggest upgrading your whole system to something new low end. Best this card will do is probably 15~30fps on lowest settings.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-EVGA-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-560-2GB-GDDR5-PCI-Exp-/182476839532?hash=item2a7c779a6c:g:qpgAAOSwXYtYuw5v
This may be your best bet. I would suggest upgrading your whole system to something new low end. Best this card will do is probably 15~30fps on lowest settings.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-EVGA-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-560-2GB-GDDR5-PCI-Exp-/182476839532?hash=item2a7c779a6c:g:qpgAAOSwXYtYuw5v
 
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[quotemsg=19411183,0,45049]Ok that motherboard does have a PCIE x16 but its 1.0 and only supports 4GB of RAM on that 939. Ill have to look around for a good 2GB GPU that works on PCIE 1.0[/quotemsg]

I think it's actually an AM2 or AM2+ motherboard which wouldn't be quite as old. Also, all PCIe cards should work on 1.0 slots, they just won't perform quite as well. The biggest bottleneck in that system would be the CPU though, particularly for GTA5, as its minimum requirements list a quad-core processor. It also calls for at least 4GB of RAM, which would be an easy enough upgrade, but also 72 GBs of hard drive space, and 64 bit windows. It's one of the more demanding games in terms of system requirements, and I have doubts that you could get it running well on that system, even with extensive upgrades.
 
[quotemsg=19411376,0,582021][quotemsg=19411183,0,45049]Ok that motherboard does have a PCIE x16 but its 1.0 and only supports 4GB of RAM on that 939. Ill have to look around for a good 2GB GPU that works on PCIE 1.0[/quotemsg]

I think it's actually an AM2 or AM2+ motherboard which wouldn't be quite as old. Also, all PCIe cards should work on 1.0 slots, they just won't perform quite as well. The biggest bottleneck in that system would be the CPU though, particularly for GTA5, as its minimum requirements list a quad-core processor. It also calls for at least 4GB of RAM, which would be an easy enough upgrade, but also 72 GBs of hard drive space, and 64 bit windows. It's one of the more demanding games in terms of system requirements, and I have doubts that you could get it running well on that system, even with extensive upgrades.[/quotemsg]
Yup the CPU is the 939 even tho it works on the 940 AM2. Its still AGP or PCIE 1.0. There was lots of claims like you could tap one side of the PCIE connetors to get new PCIE 2.1/3.0 cards to work but never see it done. I would stick with GPU's know to work with the slot.
 
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Yup the CPU is the 939 even tho it works on the 940 AM2. Its still AGP or PCIE 1.0. There was lots of claims like you could tap one side of the PCIE connetors to get new PCIE 2.1/3.0 cards to work but never see it done. I would stick with GPU's know to work with the slot.
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I was going to point out that the 4800+ was available for both socket 939 and AM2, but that the 2.5GHz version was only on the newer AM2 socket, though the OP already verified that his motherboard is AM2. I wasn't finding much information on the motherboard from good sources, though what little I've found seems to indicate that motherboard might be able to run some phenom x4 quad-core processors, although it could require a bios update, if it were to work at all. Used Phenom X4s are relatively inexpensive on sites like eBay now, though you might have to do more research to determine whether a particular chip would be compatible with your particular motherboard. And of course, the single-threaded performance on those CPUs is still quite a bit lower than current generation CPUs, so the CPU would still undoubtedly limit your performance in newer games.

And in general, most PCIe 2.x and 3.x graphics cards should be backward compatible with a PCIe 1.0 slot. Generally, it just limits the amount of throughput that the card has access to, though in practice, that shouldn't affect performance too badly.

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What if my psu is 300 watts can i still use gtx 650?or should i buy cheap graphic card like gt 730 or r7 240?
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560 or 650? I would actually not recommend a GTX 560 like the one that was linked to before, since it requires extra power connectors and can draw over 150 watts under load. Plus, the GTX 560 is quite old, and came out over 6 years ago. There are newer GPUs that perform the same or better while requiring less than half as much power. A 300 watt PSU can be cutting things close for graphics card upgrades, but many lower end cards get all their power from the PCIe slot, and won't draw more than around 70 watts under load. A GTX 650 is also pretty old, but it requires less power, though it also performs worse. I'd recommend going with something newer, at least a GTX 750, which should perform slightly better than a 560 while only drawing around 60 watts while gaming.

[quotemsg=19411284,0,2434774]do i need to add another 2GB ram?[/quotemsg]

I'd say yes. I believe your motherboard only has 2 RAM slots though, and can use up to 2GB in each slot. If one slot was empty, and the other had a single 2GB stick, you might be able to just add another single 2GB stick, though they would need to match specifications exactly to reduce the chances of running into issues. It would probably be best to use a matched set of 2x2GB sticks to avoid potential issues, and if your system currently has 2x1GB sticks, you would have to do this anyway. Buying a brand new set of RAM like Elbert linked to would likely work fine, though you could likely find a much better bargain on used DDR2 from someplace like eBay at this point. I was seeing some used 2x2GB sets of PC2-6400 DDR2 memory that would likely be compatible for under $20 shipped. You just have to make sure it's compatible, and not server or laptop memory or something. For upgrading older systems, the used market can often make sense, since plenty of people are selling off their older components.

[quotemsg=19411442,0,2434774]my windows version is 7 ultimate 64bit and do i need to buy a new HDD maybe 320 or 500GB? do i need to add or replace my existing HDD?
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Some new games require a lot of hard drive space, so adding a hard drive might be necessary, unless your current one is almost empty. If you're trying to get GTA5 to run, it requires more space than most games, at somewhere over 60 GB, and if you were installing it from someplace like Steam, it might require nearly double that for the initial download and installation process. As long as your computer case has room for another drive though, you can likely add it in addition to your existing drive, so that you don't have to reinstall your operating system or anything. When installing games, you'll just have to select the second drive as the place where you want to install them to.
 
[quotemsg=19414961,0,2434774]What if my psu is 300 watts can i still use gtx 650?or should i buy cheap graphic card like gt 730 or r7 240?
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Newer cards tend to not work on the older slot. When your slot is PCIE 1.0 only older cards are compatible. Even PCIE 2.0 without correct bios updates have issues. You could get a lower end GTX 640 for example. For an AMD stick with older cards like the HD 5670. I got an old emachine with the Nvidia 6100 that works with my old HD 5770 but doesn't work with the newer HD 7770. The 730 and R7 240 are to new and require 2.0 and higher.

About the only motherboards that can get you around the limit is AMD 770 chipset like this one. I picked this motherboard up about 7 years ago and worked great and cover a huge number of CPU's
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/A770DE+/#Specification
 
I've seen posts online of people successfully using GTX 750 and 750 Ti cards in PCIe 1.0 and 1.1 slots, though it's possible that it might depend on the motherboard and the card. I believe the PCI-e 2.1 specification increased the power that the slot should deliver, which could potentially cause issues with backward compatibility. The GTX 750 shouldn't likely draw enough power for that to be a problem, though it's possible there could be incompatibilities.
 
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