Question Complete mess after upgrading my computer

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Around 3 months ago I switched only motherboard, CPU and RAM, my graphic card, PSU and hard drive remained the same. I also upgraded to windows 10 and I had 0 issues, around month after that upgrade I switched HDD into SSD MX500 and clean installed windows 10, that's where the problems began, at first I was getting a bluescreen every ~2 days and those bluescreens were usually different, it was not the same bluescreen, on my old HDD everything was fine.

Then I finally upgraded my graphic card so now only PSU is old but still enough and it's a nightmare, I'm getting bluescreens very often, ie. in league of legends my game is just shutting off in like 5 minutes with no message, no bluescreen, in little hope the game was crashing with no message every 2 hours, I get bluescreens a lot more often overall, a couple a day, trying to turn on HDD is also problematic because of bluescreens.

At first I thought that it's the ssd but right now even when I switch to HDD and switch my graphic card I still can have problems to start windows and get bluescreens.

And lastly the last bluescreens that I remember are, system service exception, pfn list corrupted and some kernel heap problem. What should I do?

Motherboard: ASRock B450M pro4
CPU: Ryzen 5 2600
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x8gb 3200MHz
GPU: Used GTX 1080 MSI Gaming X+
SSD: MX500 500gb
PSU: Thermaltake SE Smart 530W
 
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Sudden crashes tend to be temperature or power related. Temperatures are easy enough to check and the power supply is a very low quality one that should never have been paired with this GPU.

Blue screens can be a bit trickier. What's the exact message you get with the blue screens? Not just a vague description of what you remember.
 
Sudden crashes tend to be temperature or power related. Temperatures are easy enough to check and the power supply is a very low quality one that should never have been paired with this GPU.

Blue screens can be a bit trickier. What's the exact message you get with the blue screens? Not just a vague description of what you remember.
I will be changing my PSU in a couple days to SilentiumPC Vero M3 700W and in terms of bluescreens, I unfortunately don't have any descriptions of them now, will try to get them and post it here.
 
This are one of my last bluescreens: View: https://imgur.com/g09s9Gc
, it's not everything tho I was getting some kernel ones and pfn list which doesn't show up here.

Are you using the latest drivers? What was your previous GPU? Do you run into problems with your previous one installed?

(I'd install the old GPU any for the moment, I would not be inclined to be testing all this out using that low-quality Thermaltake)
 
Are you using the latest drivers? What was your previous GPU? Do you run into problems with your previous one installed?

I'm using the latest drivers from official nvidia site, installed them again yesterday with uninstalling the previous ones with ddu in a safe mode. My GPU prior was Radeon R9 280 and before I switched to GTX 1080 I had no problems with R9 280 on HDD ( on SSD I had bluescreens every ~2 days but games were not randomly turning off) and now I can bluescreen a couple times on a windows startup even with R9 280 on HDD.

Also in terms of PSU maybe I will get Seasonic Focus Plus 650W 80 Plus Gold but not sure since it's getting more and more expensive.
 
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I'm using the latest drivers from official nvidia site, installed them again yesterday with uninstalling the previous ones with ddu in a safe mode. My GPU prior was Radeon R9 280 and before I switched to GTX 1080 I had no problems with R9 280 on HDD ( on SSD I had bluescreens every ~2 days but games were not randomly turning off) and now I can bluescreen a couple times on a windows startup even with R9 280 on HDD.

Also in terms of PSU maybe I will get Seasonic Focus Plus 650W 80 Plus Gold but not sure since it's getting more and more expensive.

It's a better choice and will serve you for a decade quite easily. If you do something cheaper, something like a modern Corsair CX (no green letters on the branding) would also be fine.

Are you getting different errors with the R9 280? I suspect you actually have more than one thing going on and it would be useful to isolate the issue as best we can. In situations like this, I tend to like wiping Windows completely and just eliminating software issues as a problem, but your mileage may vary.
 
It's a better choice and will serve you for a decade quite easily. If you do something cheaper, something like a modern Corsair CX (no green letters on the branding) would also be fine.

Are you getting different errors with the R9 280? I suspect you actually have more than one thing going on and it would be useful to isolate the issue as best we can. In situations like this, I tend to like wiping Windows completely and just eliminating software issues as a problem, but your mileage may vary.
I also found Corsair TX650M 650w which seems like the best choice for me now.

With R9 280 I'm also getting system service exception, pfn corrupted list, some kernel ones will be testing more tonight I wasn't paying much attention to those bluescreens at first because they were so different . I will be testing R9 280 tonight again and will get a better insights on bluescreens there, wiping windows is a hassle and I can't do it on HDD, too much important data for me. SSD though, if it will be the last option then I will.

And anyway, are bluescreens that I posted above still pretty unclear and it's tough to know what's going on just looking at them?
 
I also found Corsair TX650M 650w which seems like the best choice for me now.

With R9 280 I'm also getting system service exception, pfn corrupted list, some kernel ones will be testing more tonight I wasn't paying much attention to those bluescreens at first because they were so different . I will be testing R9 280 tonight again and will get a better insights on bluescreens there, wiping windows is a hassle and I can't do it on HDD, too much important data for me. SSD though, if it will be the last option then I will.

And anyway, are bluescreens that I posted above still pretty unclear and it's tough to know what's going on just looking at them?

Umm, if you have important data on the HDD that isn't backed up, ideally in multiple backups, then I would consider that problem far more urgent and troubling than blue screens while gaming.

The Corsair TX will be fine.
 
Umm, if you have important data on the HDD that isn't backed up, ideally in multiple backups, then I would consider that problem far more urgent and troubling than blue screens while gaming.

The Corsair TX will be fine.
I don't really have a space to back it up anywhere, I did a little research on backups and trying to do one it would be like a couple hundred gb's with xx hours of backing up.
 
I'm using the latest drivers from official nvidia site, installed them again yesterday with uninstalling the previous ones with ddu in a safe mode. My GPU prior was Radeon R9 280 and before I switched to GTX 1080 I had no problems with R9 280 on HDD ( on SSD I had bluescreens every ~2 days but games were not randomly turning off) and now I can bluescreen a couple times on a windows startup even with R9 280 on HDD.

Also in terms of PSU maybe I will get Seasonic Focus Plus 650W 80 Plus Gold but not sure since it's getting more and more expensive.

One subtle detail perhaps related to this, don't know: Was the driver for the Radeon ever installed prior to switching to the NVIDIA GPU? You said at one point that you clean installed, but if you clean installed and had the Radeon driver in place, followed by later adding the NVIDIA driver, then you'd have to make sure the Radeon driver was completely removed prior to ever adding the NVIDIA driver. If you only had the NVIDIA driver in this install, then you can ignore this, but if not, then I'll suggest:
  • Set resolution to something small like 800x600, or at max 1920x1080 if you cannot use something smaller (you'll be able to set something smaller, but sometimes the GUI doesn't let you use smaller sizes and still be able to hit the "ok" buttons).
  • Completely remove anything related to either the Radeon or NVIDIA GPU drivers.
  • Reboot.
  • Add the NVIDIA driver back in place.
  • Reboot, and set resolution back to where you wanted it.
 
One subtle detail perhaps related to this, don't know: Was the driver for the Radeon ever installed prior to switching to the NVIDIA GPU? You said at one point that you clean installed, but if you clean installed and had the Radeon driver in place, followed by later adding the NVIDIA driver, then you'd have to make sure the Radeon driver was completely removed prior to ever adding the NVIDIA driver. If you only had the NVIDIA driver in this install, then you can ignore this, but if not, then I'll suggest:
  • Set resolution to something small like 800x600, or at max 1920x1080 if you cannot use something smaller (you'll be able to set something smaller, but sometimes the GUI doesn't let you use smaller sizes and still be able to hit the "ok" buttons).
  • Completely remove anything related to either the Radeon or NVIDIA GPU drivers.
  • Reboot.
  • Add the NVIDIA driver back in place.
  • Reboot, and set resolution back to where you wanted it.
I had a Radeon driver for R9 280 and before putting in GTX 1080 I unistalled old radeon driver with DDU in a safe mode and then installed a new nvidia one from the official website. Should I still do what you said? I think that radeon driver should be completely out using this ddu in a safe mode method.

UPDATE EDIT: Currently running chkdsk on HDD because it found errors, it also found the same errors on SSD which are fixed, no idea if it fixes anything related to bsod or games turning off yet, HDD fix will take a while.
 
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