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I had a Lenovo Legion PC with a i5 and 1660Ti. It wouldn't start (no fans/post), so I bought a Corsair RM650X thinking the PSU died. That didn't work, so I thought the power button on the case failed, so I bought a Corsair ICUE 4000X RGB Mid-Tower Case. Unfortunately, I cannot find any documentation on the Lenovo motherboard and I think they use some proprietary stuff that won't let me just install it into the new case.

As such, I will be building a new computer around the new PSU and Tower as well as the 1660Ti (at least temporarily). After a little research, it looks like the 7800X3D is imminently coming out and seems to be a good value. I have 0 intention of overclocking and would like to build the components reasonably cheap (if possible). If there's a component that is 10% slower but 50% cheaper, I would definitely be willing to make that sacrifice. Current uses would be Fusion 360 (cad software), Photoshop, Video Editing, and Gaming (mostly Fortnite). I'll upgrade my monitor from a 1080p when I get a new video card.

I last built a computer 10ish years ago, so I am really out of the loop as to compatibility/components, could I get your assistance?

Thanks
 
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the community would be able to provide faster, more rounded up responses for you to consider.

The thing that might hold you up would be the PSU since the GPU's of this era are power hungry, so something around the 750W~850W range, if you're moving outside of a GTX1660Ti.
 
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Lutfij said:
If you could stylize your thread with information asked of in this thread;

*How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice*

How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice First off, respect where respect is due - this is an adaptation of the Animal's *How To Ask For New Build Advice* Sticky. I created this because there's a lot of posts nowadays asking for upgrade advice both on here and on the CPU forums, and I feel...
forums.tomshardware.com forums.tomshardware.com
the community would be able to provide faster, more rounded up responses for you to consider.

The thing that might hold you up would be the PSU since the GPU's of this era are power hungry, so something around the 750W~850W range, if you're moving outside of a GT1669Ti.
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It looks like the RX 6800 only uses 223W during gaming and the X3D seems to only use 100W, would a 650 watt gold PSU not be sufficient? Or is the RX 6800 a bad combo.
 
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GarrettL said:
For the use you inted I would not suggest an x3d cpu as it would appear to be used more as a workstation than gaming rig. The x3d cpu's are great for gaming but not for workloads. Just saying.
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Part of my concerns are the power restrictions Lutfij mentioned. I think the Intel processors are going to be too power hungry. Also, the workstation uses are just me being a woodworking hobbyist and my kid possibly making YouTube videos, so I'm not overly concerned there.
 
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OK, so we can see the framerates that the top three gaming cpu's generate at 1440p and they are fairly similar with the 7800x3d producing slightly higher framerates at 1440p. But all three cpu's tend to generate far more than 144 FPS depending on game title. Most monitors today are 144Hz but 240Hz and higher are available as well.

The 7800x3d build would have an upgrade path in the future. The 5800x3d and 13700k sockets have been retired, no future upgrade path.

The 7800x3d is $499
The 13700K is $419
The 5800x3d is $320

To play at 1440p you'll need a good gpu and the pricing is still on the high side. The 7900xt or 4070TI are two options at a similar price point.

So once you look at a monitor, gpu and pc build it will not be cheap. Do you have a budget to work with?
 
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Can you provide a link to the pc that you now have that is giving you trouble?
Likely, most parts are reuseable or a solution to your start problem could be found.

What is the main use for this pc?

FWIW, I am a fan of large 4k monitors.
They are easier to scale up if you have vision issues.
 
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GarrettL said:
OK, so we can see the framerates that the top three gaming cpu's generate at 1440p and they are fairly similar with the 7800x3d producing slightly higher framerates at 1440p. But all three cpu's tend to generate far more than 144 FPS depending on game title. Most monitors today are 144Hz but 240Hz and higher are available as well.

The 7800x3d build would have an upgrade path in the future. The 5800x3d and 13700k sockets have been retired, no future upgrade path.

The 7800x3d is $499
The 13700K is $419
The 5800x3d is $320

To play at 1440p you'll need a good gpu and the pricing is still on the high side. The 7900xt or 4070TI are two options at a similar price point.

So once you look at a monitor, gpu and pc build it will not be cheap. Do you have a budget to work with?
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My budget is pretty variable. I would prefer more value components compared to high end components. I would like to stay under $1,000 for the components (mobo/ram/hdd/cpu, already have case/psu/gpu [temporary])
 
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What case?

How old is the psu, make and model? I would be hesitant and not use it if out of warranty. Today's gpu's are fairly power hungry with 750 watts being the norm to start with.

Do you live in the US? If so do you live near a Micro Center?

A $1,000 budget is a good start. We can look at the 7700x on the AM5 platform, still a very good gaming cpu.
 
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geofelt said:
Can you provide a link to the pc that you now have that is giving you trouble?
Likely, most parts are reuseable or a solution to your start problem could be found.

What is the main use for this pc?

FWIW, I am a fan of large 4k monitors.
They are easier to scale up if you have vision issues.
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Costco doesn't have the page anymore, but here's a more general link that I used at the time: https://slickdeals.net/f/14668124-l...ore-i5-10400-geforce-gtx-1660-super-sh-699-99

I am going to reuse the 1660 super (at least until I can get a RX6800 (or whatever I should get at the time). I can reuse the disk hdd, but will probably get a SSD like this for the main boot drive: https://slickdeals.net/f/16547221-2...arch:result_id:16547221&src=SiteSearchV2Algo1

I think the ram is older/slower DDR4.
 
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What is the make/model of the case you bought?
Need to know to verify that a motherboard will fit.

I will never again build without a ssd for windows.
Budget perhaps $150 for a 2tb drive.

A typical budget breakdown might be:
A motherboard might be $200.
A good processor might be $350.
32gb of ram might be $100.
 
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geofelt said:
What is the make/model of the case you bought?
Need to know to verify that a motherboard will fit.

I will never again build without a ssd for windows.
Budget perhaps $150 for a 2tb drive.

A typical budget breakdown might be:
A motherboard might be $200.
A good processor might be $350.
32gb of ram might be $100.
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Corsair ICUE 4000X RGB Mid-Tower Case
 
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unlikelykiller said:
Costco doesn't have the page anymore, but here's a more general link that I used at the time: https://slickdeals.net/f/14668124-l...ore-i5-10400-geforce-gtx-1660-super-sh-699-99

I am going to reuse the 1660 super (at least until I can get a RX6800 (or whatever I should get at the time). I can reuse the disk hdd, but will probably get a SSD like this for the main boot drive: https://slickdeals.net/f/16547221-2tb-crucial-p3-plus-pcie-nvme-m-2-ssd-102-free-shipping?attrsrc=search:term:ssd|search😛age:1|search😛osition:3|search:result_type:thread|search:result_id:16547221&src=SiteSearchV2Algo1

I think the ram is older/slower DDR4.
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Looking at prcing the 7700x build would be about $1k or a tad over but a 5800x3d build can be done $200-$300 cheaper. Can squeeze a new 1440p monitor in then.
 
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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor ($334.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($40.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($76.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor ($293.83 @ Amazon)
Total: $1111.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-06 11:00 EDT-0400
 
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GarrettL said:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor ($334.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($40.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($76.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor ($293.83 @ Amazon)
Total: $1111.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-06 11:00 EDT-0400
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If I'm not overclocking, do I need more than the stock cpu cooler? Also, will my current PSU (Corsair RM650X ) work?
 
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Most cpu's do not come with a stock cooler any longer. The Peerless is needed to prevent the cpu from reaching it's thermal limit. That's how AMD and Intel cpu's behave now. Overclocking for the most part is a thing of the past.

The RM650x (if still under warranty) would work with your current gpu but once you get a 1440p gpu you'll need a 750 or 850 watt psu.

If you have a Micro Center near you, no one beats their pricing.
 
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GarrettL said:
Most cpu's do not come with a stock cooler any longer. The Peerless is needed to prevent the cpu from reaching it's thermal limit. That's how AMD and Intel cpu's behave now. Overclocking for the most part is a thing of the past.

The RM650x (if still under warranty) would work with your current gpu but once you get a 1440p gpu you'll need a 750 or 850 watt psu.

If you have a Micro Center near you, no one beats their pricing.
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Aww, things have changed. The RM650x is like a few weeks old, so it's still under warranty. Thank you so much for all of the assistance.
 
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unlikelykiller said:
Corsair ICUE 4000X RGB Mid-Tower Case
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A very nice case, particularly for air cooling.
I presume that your lenovo was working at one time.
How well did the performance satisfy you?
I would have thought that the no start was a problem that could be solved.
How good do you need to be?
I might think that a $320 I5-13600K would be a good processor for your use.
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-13600k-core-i5-13th-gen/p/N82E16819118416?quicklink=true
Or $420 gets you a 13700K.
Most here are gamers and they are hot and bothered about the amd X3D processors.
The X3D is very good for games, but not so hot for production type work compared to other amd offerings.

You would need a lga1700 motherboard.
Here is a H760 based MATX motherboard for $150:
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144584?Item=N82E16813144584
Here is a decent $73 32gb kit:
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232928?quicklink=true
There is no significant difference in DDR4 vs. DDR5 performance, and DDR4 is cheaper.

13600K does not come with a cooler.
Here is a good $43 thermalright peerless asassin cooler
https://www.newegg.com/p/0VE-01P6-0...095566&id31=en&id32=&id33=&id34=&gclsrc=aw.ds

For a stronger quieter cooler look at the $99 noctua NH-D15s
https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15s/p/N82E16835608072

Noctua maintains a list of suitable coolers for different processors.
Here is the list for the 13700k:
https://ncc.noctua.at/cpus/model/Intel-Core-i7-13700K-1640

For a m.2 pcie ssd, look at the $115 Intel 660P 2tb pcie m.2:
https://www.newegg.com/intel-660p-series-2tb/p/N82E16820167461?Item=9SIBBN9JJ86277&quicklink=true

Your RM650 is a top quality psu.
Here is a handy chart as to what graphics cards it will run:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

You might want to read this post from Puget systems on Photoshop hardware recommendations
www.pugetsystems.com

Hardware Recommendations

Our workstations for Adobe Photoshop are tested and optimized to give you the best performance and reliability. View our hardware recommendations.
www.pugetsystems.com www.pugetsystems.com
 
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geofelt said:
A very nice case, particularly for air cooling.
I presume that your lenovo was working at one time.
How well did the performance satisfy you?
I would have thought that the no start was a problem that could be solved.
How good do you need to be?
I might think that a $320 I5-13600K would be a good processor for your use.
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-13600k-core-i5-13th-gen/p/N82E16819118416?quicklink=true
Or $420 gets you a 13700K.
Most here are gamers and they are hot and bothered about the amd X3D processors.
The X3D is very good for games, but not so hot for production type work compared to other amd offerings.

You would need a lga1700 motherboard.
Here is a H760 based MATX motherboard for $150:
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144584?Item=N82E16813144584
Here is a decent $73 32gb kit:
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232928?quicklink=true
There is no significant difference in DDR4 vs. DDR5 performance, and DDR4 is cheaper.

13600K does not come with a cooler.
Here is a good $43 thermalright peerless asassin cooler
https://www.newegg.com/p/0VE-01P6-0...095566&id31=en&id32=&id33=&id34=&gclsrc=aw.ds

For a stronger quieter cooler look at the $99 noctua NH-D15s
https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15s/p/N82E16835608072

Noctua maintains a list of suitable coolers for different processors.
Here is the list for the 13700k:
https://ncc.noctua.at/cpus/model/Intel-Core-i7-13700K-1640

For a m.2 pcie ssd, look at the $115 Intel 660P 2tb pcie m.2:
https://www.newegg.com/intel-660p-series-2tb/p/N82E16820167461?Item=9SIBBN9JJ86277&quicklink=true

Your RM650 is a top quality psu.
Here is a handy chart as to what graphics cards it will run:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

You might want to read this post from Puget systems on Photoshop hardware recommendations
www.pugetsystems.com

Hardware Recommendations

Our workstations for Adobe Photoshop are tested and optimized to give you the best performance and reliability. View our hardware recommendations.
www.pugetsystems.com www.pugetsystems.com
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Thank you for the information. As for the performance, I can't comment too much. It was given to me, worked for a week, and died. Dumped about $250 in components trying to get it to work (case/psu) but at this point, I'll just build another using those purchased components.
 
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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CFzhP6/msi-pro-b650-p-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-pro-b650-p-wifi
MSI PRO B650-P WIFI $219.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B650-P-WIFI

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dXmmP6/amd-ryzen-7-7700-36-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000592box
AMD Ryzen 7 7700 $329.00

https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-7-7700

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Mk...k-argb-6788-cfm-cpu-cooler-r-ag620-bkanmn-g-2
DeepCool AG620 BK ARGB Dual Tower CPU Cooler $54.98

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...al-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16082.shtml

Low profile RAM so that it doesn't impede the cpu cooler.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cn...-ddr5-6000-cl32-memory-f5-6000j3238f16gx2-fx5
G.Skill Flare X5 (AMD EXPO) DDR5-6000 32GB (2x16GB) CL32 $123.99

Total: $727.98

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2v...x-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760-aorus-elite-ax
Gigabyte B760 AORUS ELITE AX $189.99

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B760-AORUS-ELITE-AX-rev-10

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xz8bt6/intel-core-i7-13700f-21-ghz-16-core-processor-bx8071513700f
Intel Core i7-13700F $364.99

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Mk...k-argb-6788-cfm-cpu-cooler-r-ag620-bkanmn-g-2
DeepCool AG620 BK ARGB Dual Tower CPU Cooler $54.98

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...al-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16082.shtml

Low profile RAM so that it doesn't impede the cpu cooler.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x4...ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3040f16gx2-rs5k
G.Skill Ripjaws S5 DDR5-6000 32GB (2x16GB) CL30 $124.99

Total: $734.95
 
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