Hi guys I haven’t built a computer in about 20 years and my daughter has had interest in building one recently. I was wondering if I can use my older gaming computer and replace pieces as we get extra money? Was going to order a new motherboard and cpu first and was hoping my windows 10 would work on it to use until I can get a hard drive, windows 11, video card,etc? I also was wondering can I just swap my ram into the new motherboard to hold off on buying that? Also what would you guys recommend me to buy I have done some research but curious what everyone else might think with motherboard and processor?
Question Computer build
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Why_Me
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You can get a cheap USB stick, download Windows installer and use the free version of Windows 11 for now.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811553054
COUGAR MX330-G Air ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $59.99
https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-80PLUS-Supply-Modular-Certified/dp/B07W6S2ZJP/
Phanteks AMP 550W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply $68.52
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144531
MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 $139.99
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-12400f-core-i5-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118360
Intel Core i5-12400F $179.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098D84SLF
Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 CPU Cooler $30.00
https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-1700-SS2-Mounting-Coolers-Platform/dp/B09LTQYNSL
Thermalright LGA 1700-SS2 Mounting Kit $8.69
https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331354
TeamGroup T-FORCE VULCAN Z DDR4-3200 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 $59.99
https://www.newegg.com/team-group-1tb-cx2/p/N82E16820331561
Team Group CX2 2.5" 1TB SATA III 3D NAND Internal SSD $79.99
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...te_gv_r66eagle_8gd_radeon_rx_6600_eagle.html/
Gigabyte Radeon RX 6600 EAGLE Graphics Card $369.99
Total: $1027
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2400f-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811553054
COUGAR MX330-G Air ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $59.99
https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-80PLUS-Supply-Modular-Certified/dp/B07W6S2ZJP/
Phanteks AMP 550W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply $68.52
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144531
MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 $139.99
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-12400f-core-i5-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118360
Intel Core i5-12400F $179.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098D84SLF
Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 CPU Cooler $30.00
https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-1700-SS2-Mounting-Coolers-Platform/dp/B09LTQYNSL
Thermalright LGA 1700-SS2 Mounting Kit $8.69
https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331354
TeamGroup T-FORCE VULCAN Z DDR4-3200 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 $59.99
https://www.newegg.com/team-group-1tb-cx2/p/N82E16820331561
Team Group CX2 2.5" 1TB SATA III 3D NAND Internal SSD $79.99
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...te_gv_r66eagle_8gd_radeon_rx_6600_eagle.html/
Gigabyte Radeon RX 6600 EAGLE Graphics Card $369.99
Total: $1027
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2400f-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html
If you are planning to re-use the RAM, that would limit you to older motherboards that accept DDR3, and CPUs that fit those sockets.
Your budget will allow for a pretty nice system, and I think you and your daughter would enjoy building a completely new one from new parts.
I think the build list in the post above is mostly good, but I would highly recommend a SSD that mounts to the M.2 slot rather than a SATA model, it will gain you some performance.
The board offers up to PCI Express 4 support - I wouldn't go overboard on a high-end SSD, but this one for 90 bucks is PCI Express 3 which is still fast.
https://www.newegg.com/sabrent-rock...-_-2-_-9SIAME8ARP9899-_-m.2 ssd-_-m.2|ssd-_-6
That would also remove the need for the hard drive mounting kit and save a few bucks there.
Your budget will allow for a pretty nice system, and I think you and your daughter would enjoy building a completely new one from new parts.
I think the build list in the post above is mostly good, but I would highly recommend a SSD that mounts to the M.2 slot rather than a SATA model, it will gain you some performance.
The board offers up to PCI Express 4 support - I wouldn't go overboard on a high-end SSD, but this one for 90 bucks is PCI Express 3 which is still fast.
https://www.newegg.com/sabrent-rock...-_-2-_-9SIAME8ARP9899-_-m.2 ssd-_-m.2|ssd-_-6
That would also remove the need for the hard drive mounting kit and save a few bucks there.
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I agree on going M.2, for SSD.
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($198.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX GTE V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($30.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Team MP34 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Speedster SWFT 210 Video Card ($374.03 @ Amazon)
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($77.81 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Phanteks AMP 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($68.52 @ Amazon)
Total: $1042.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-13 15:12 EDT-0400
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($198.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX GTE V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($30.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Team MP34 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Speedster SWFT 210 Video Card ($374.03 @ Amazon)
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($77.81 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Phanteks AMP 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($68.52 @ Amazon)
Total: $1042.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-13 15:12 EDT-0400
geofelt
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A FX system is all but obsolete.
List the make/model of your case, psu and drives to see if they have any reuse value.
With your budget, I would start completely over and relegate the current system to some other purpose.
List the make/model of your case, psu and drives to see if they have any reuse value.
With your budget, I would start completely over and relegate the current system to some other purpose.
Why_Me
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Wi-Fi 6 and Bluetooth 5.2
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144524?item=N82E16813144524
MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 $149.99
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-WIFI-DDR4/Overview
My daughter and I went and kind of chose our own stuff with the help of you guys how would this build be?i couldn’t get the links to work on motherboard and stuff please let me know wife gabe me permission to order!!
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fNLwrH/deepcool-gammaxx-gte-v2-645-cfm-cpu-cooler-dp-mch4-gmx-gtev2
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z3...-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tlzgd416g3200hc16cdc01
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y6YLrH/team-mp34-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-tm8fp4001t0c101
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/36...microatx-mid-tower-case-dp-matx-matrexx40-3fs
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y3...-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p550g_us01
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 GAMING OC 8G Graphics Card, 3x WINDFORCE Fans, 8GB GDDR6 128-bit GDDR6, GV-N3050GAMING OC-8GD Video Card
AMD 100-100000158BOX RYZEN 5 3500X 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.1 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 65W Desktop Processor
GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI AM4 AMD X570 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fNLwrH/deepcool-gammaxx-gte-v2-645-cfm-cpu-cooler-dp-mch4-gmx-gtev2
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z3...-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tlzgd416g3200hc16cdc01
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y6YLrH/team-mp34-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-tm8fp4001t0c101
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/36...microatx-mid-tower-case-dp-matx-matrexx40-3fs
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y3...-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p550g_us01
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 GAMING OC 8G Graphics Card, 3x WINDFORCE Fans, 8GB GDDR6 128-bit GDDR6, GV-N3050GAMING OC-8GD Video Card
AMD 100-100000158BOX RYZEN 5 3500X 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.1 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 65W Desktop Processor
GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI AM4 AMD X570 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard
geofelt
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I do not much like your picks.
If you are going to buy new and not used, you get better value from current gen products.
For example, the 12th gen I3-12100 processor sells for $135:
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i3-12100-core-i3-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118370?quicklink=true
It comes with a cooler, and it includes integrated graphics.
Integrated graphics lets you defer on the graphics card until prices stabilize and you better know what you want. Intel is due to launch it's cards soon, and I think that will lower the current prices.
Newegg lists the 3500X at $170.
I3-12100 has 8 threads and a passmark rating of 14540. That is when all 8 threads are fully loaded.
For games, expect to effectively use 4-6 threads.
The single thread rating is 3550. The single thread rating is arguably the more important spec for gaming and desktop quickness.
R5-3500X has 6 threads and a rating of 18303 which is better for batch apps, but the
2530 rating is not as good for games and quickness.
Try running the cpu-Z bench test on your FX-4300.
You should get a score about 250:
https://valid.x86.fr/bench/zksrpi/1
The i3-12100 will be about 657:
http://valid.x86.fr/bench/simj7f/1
3500x is about486.
Here is a review of thee i3-12100:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i3-12100-12100f-review
A MATX B660 DDR4 motherboard with wifi might be about $150:
A bit less without wifi.
The 3200 speed ram you picked is fine for Intel.
But for amd, which is tightly connected to ram, you would want 2600 speed.
The case is fine.
On the psu, 550w is ok for a 3050 gpu.
But, if, in time you might want to upgrade the graphics card,
Here is a handy chart for sizing a psu:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
I would buy 650w or even 750w.
The 12100 processor can be good for a much stronger processor.
A psu will only use the power demanded of it, regardless of the max capability.
I do not know much about Phanteks power supplies.
With a 10 year warranty, they are likely made by seasonic.
On storage, I would consider 2tb if it fits your budget.
And for reliability, Puget systems thinks highly of the Samsung ssd devices:
www.pugetsystems.com
If you are going to buy new and not used, you get better value from current gen products.
For example, the 12th gen I3-12100 processor sells for $135:
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i3-12100-core-i3-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118370?quicklink=true
It comes with a cooler, and it includes integrated graphics.
Integrated graphics lets you defer on the graphics card until prices stabilize and you better know what you want. Intel is due to launch it's cards soon, and I think that will lower the current prices.
Newegg lists the 3500X at $170.
I3-12100 has 8 threads and a passmark rating of 14540. That is when all 8 threads are fully loaded.
For games, expect to effectively use 4-6 threads.
The single thread rating is 3550. The single thread rating is arguably the more important spec for gaming and desktop quickness.
R5-3500X has 6 threads and a rating of 18303 which is better for batch apps, but the
2530 rating is not as good for games and quickness.
Try running the cpu-Z bench test on your FX-4300.
You should get a score about 250:
https://valid.x86.fr/bench/zksrpi/1
The i3-12100 will be about 657:
http://valid.x86.fr/bench/simj7f/1
3500x is about486.
Here is a review of thee i3-12100:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i3-12100-12100f-review
A MATX B660 DDR4 motherboard with wifi might be about $150:
A bit less without wifi.
The 3200 speed ram you picked is fine for Intel.
But for amd, which is tightly connected to ram, you would want 2600 speed.
The case is fine.
On the psu, 550w is ok for a 3050 gpu.
But, if, in time you might want to upgrade the graphics card,
Here is a handy chart for sizing a psu:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
I would buy 650w or even 750w.
The 12100 processor can be good for a much stronger processor.
A psu will only use the power demanded of it, regardless of the max capability.
I do not know much about Phanteks power supplies.
With a 10 year warranty, they are likely made by seasonic.
On storage, I would consider 2tb if it fits your budget.
And for reliability, Puget systems thinks highly of the Samsung ssd devices:
Most Reliable PC Hardware of 2021
Here at Puget Systems, our goal is not only to provide the fastest workstations possible, but the most reliable as well. As a part of our constant drive to offer only the highest quality components possible, we track and regularly review the failure rates for each part we carry. Today, we want...
www.pugetsystems.com
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Why_Me
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https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-X570-AORUS-802-11AC-Motherboard/dp/B07WL5MFXL
GIGABYTE X570 AORUS Elite Wi-Fi $188.99
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3500x/p/274-000M-001B6
AMD RYZEN 5 3500X $188.99 Limited time offer, ends 04/16 By SenyTech Sale Ends in 10 Hours -
Save: $10.10 (5%)
Total: $378
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144524?item=N82E16813144524
MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 $149.99
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-12400f-core-i5-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118360
Intel Core i5-12400F $179.99
Total: $330
So can I keep everything else I chose and just swap out the motherboard and processor?https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-X570-AORUS-802-11AC-Motherboard/dp/B07WL5MFXL
GIGABYTE X570 AORUS Elite Wi-Fi $188.99
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3500x/p/274-000M-001B6
AMD RYZEN 5 3500X $188.99 Limited time offer, ends 04/16 By SenyTech Sale Ends in 10 Hours -
Save: $10.10 (5%)
Total: $378
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144524?item=N82E16813144524
MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 $149.99
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-12400f-core-i5-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118360
Intel Core i5-12400F $179.99
Total: $330
So I kept everything the same but changed out the motherboard and processor for the Intel i3 you had and will wait on a graphics card if you think that is best and the motherboard isI do not much like your picks.
If you are going to buy new and not used, you get better value from current gen products.
For example, the 12th gen I3-12100 processor sells for $135:
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i3-12100-core-i3-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118370?quicklink=true
It comes with a cooler, and it includes integrated graphics.
Integrated graphics lets you defer on the graphics card until prices stabilize and you better know what you want. Intel is due to launch it's cards soon, and I think that will lower the current prices.
Newegg lists the 3500X at $170.
I3-12100 has 8 threads and a passmark rating of 14540. That is when all 8 threads are fully loaded.
For games, expect to effectively use 4-6 threads.
The single thread rating is 3550. The single thread rating is arguably the more important spec for gaming and desktop quickness.
R5-3500X has 6 threads and a rating of 18303 which is better for batch apps, but the
2530 rating is not as good for games and quickness.
Try running the cpu-Z bench test on your FX-4300.
You should get a score about 250:
https://valid.x86.fr/bench/zksrpi/1
The i3-12100 will be about 657:
http://valid.x86.fr/bench/simj7f/1
3500x is about486.
Here is a review of thee i3-12100:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i3-12100-12100f-review
A MATX B660 DDR4 motherboard with wifi might be about $150:
A bit less without wifi.
The 3200 speed ram you picked is fine for Intel.
But for amd, which is tightly connected to ram, you would want 2600 speed.
The case is fine.
On the psu, 550w is ok for a 3050 gpu.
But, if, in time you might want to upgrade the graphics card,
Here is a handy chart for sizing a psu:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
I would buy 650w or even 750w.
The 12100 processor can be good for a much stronger processor.
A psu will only use the power demanded of it, regardless of the max capability.
I do not know much about Phanteks power supplies.
With a 10 year warranty, they are likely made by seasonic.
On storage, I would consider 2tb if it fits your budget.
And for reliability, Puget systems thinks highly of the Samsung ssd devices:
Most Reliable PC Hardware of 2021
Here at Puget Systems, our goal is not only to provide the fastest workstations possible, but the most reliable as well. As a part of our constant drive to offer only the highest quality components possible, we track and regularly review the failure rates for each part we carry. Today, we want...
MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 LGA 1700 Intel B660 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
All 12400 models are i-5.
Next step up is 12500, then 12600; all i-5
There are 2 models of the 12500
There are 4 models of the 12600.
Normally, you'd want to choose among:
plain 12400
plain 12500
plain 12600
12600K
The 12600 K can be overclocked. The others can't.
ALL of them have integrated video.
Which of those CAN'T you afford?
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