Im lookign to buy a gaming computer to play all my games, particually minecraft, ive seen this product on ebay- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Dual-Xeon-7-2Ghz-1TB-Desktop-Tower-PC-Windows-7-8GB-RAM-Tower-Computer-XW8200-/140850803606?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUA%26otn%3D5%26pmod%3D110951857950%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D2408233021494502645#ht_5590wt_1056 - £250 - £270 is probbaly my limit, i was wondering if this is a good gaming computer that could run everything smoothly? Thanks.
That's not really a home computer. It's a business server/workstation type machine that has been marked down because it's old technology. The CPU and graphics card are not designed for home computing and the graphics card will be the main problem, having only 128MB memory. Modern games and modern cards are 1024MB (1GB) absolute minimum. And I wouldn't even recommend going as low as 1GB if you want any sort of longevity.
Plus side is that the motherboard will support newer cards, though you'd be looking at over £100 extra for a decent graphics card and it may still be constrained by CPU performance and memory (quantity of memory is very good, but it's old DDR2 - DDR3 came in 3 or 4 years ago now and is standard in even the cheapest machines).
The hard disk is very good, no problems there. Advertising this as a gaming machine is totally misleading (though it is later described as 'corporate', workstation and server). This is a business machine that would have cost a fortune several years ago but is no good for modern games. This being said, Minecraft is hardly cutting-edge graphics and if you're only playing old/basic games, you might be OK on it. Don't expect to play Battlefield 3 though
Plus side is that the motherboard will support newer cards, though you'd be looking at over £100 extra for a decent graphics card and it may still be constrained by CPU performance and memory (quantity of memory is very good, but it's old DDR2 - DDR3 came in 3 or 4 years ago now and is standard in even the cheapest machines).
The hard disk is very good, no problems there. Advertising this as a gaming machine is totally misleading (though it is later described as 'corporate', workstation and server). This is a business machine that would have cost a fortune several years ago but is no good for modern games. This being said, Minecraft is hardly cutting-edge graphics and if you're only playing old/basic games, you might be OK on it. Don't expect to play Battlefield 3 though
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That's not really a home computer. It's a business server/workstation type machine that has been marked down because it's old technology. The CPU and graphics card are not designed for home computing and the graphics card will be the main problem, having only 128MB memory. Modern games and modern cards are 1024MB (1GB) absolute minimum. And I wouldn't even recommend going as low as 1GB if you want any sort of longevity.
Plus side is that the motherboard will support newer cards, though you'd be looking at over £100 extra for a decent graphics card and it may still be constrained by CPU performance and memory (quantity of memory is very good, but it's old DDR2 - DDR3 came in 3 or 4 years ago now and is standard in even the cheapest machines).
The hard disk is very good, no problems there. Advertising this as a gaming machine is totally misleading (though it is later described as 'corporate', workstation and server). This is a business machine that would have cost a fortune several years ago but is no good for modern games. This being said, Minecraft is hardly cutting-edge graphics and if you're only playing old/basic games, you might be OK on it. Don't expect to play Battlefield 3 though
Plus side is that the motherboard will support newer cards, though you'd be looking at over £100 extra for a decent graphics card and it may still be constrained by CPU performance and memory (quantity of memory is very good, but it's old DDR2 - DDR3 came in 3 or 4 years ago now and is standard in even the cheapest machines).
The hard disk is very good, no problems there. Advertising this as a gaming machine is totally misleading (though it is later described as 'corporate', workstation and server). This is a business machine that would have cost a fortune several years ago but is no good for modern games. This being said, Minecraft is hardly cutting-edge graphics and if you're only playing old/basic games, you might be OK on it. Don't expect to play Battlefield 3 though
Thanks, could you recoomend a computer site or something?
I can if you're looking at buying new, but if you're after a used/refurbished machine like that one, eBay probably is your best bet, or maybe Play or Amazon or something. To be honest, you'll have a hard time getting a decent gaming machine together for £250, new or otherwise. I'd recommend buying the components and getting a friend with technical knowledge to assemble the hardware so that you're paying purely for the components and not labour/shipping/warranty costs.
For £250, your best bet is probably an AMD processor with integrated graphics combined with 4GB RAM and a 500GB hard disk. Adding to that the other components, you could probably do it within £250. If you'd like to buy one pre-assembled, check out Novatech, Aria, Cougar Extreme, Ginger6, Power Computing, Computer Planet, PC Option, Element Tech or Arbico. When I was looking for competitive quotes for friend on a pre-built system, those companies looked best for not adding too much extra on top of the parts cost.
If you have a friend who could assemble the components, first post in the new builds section of the forum to get advice on the best options for your budget (people will be able to give more specific advice there) and then look at Aria, Novatech, Scan, eBuyer and Dabs to find the best prices on those components.
For £250, your best bet is probably an AMD processor with integrated graphics combined with 4GB RAM and a 500GB hard disk. Adding to that the other components, you could probably do it within £250. If you'd like to buy one pre-assembled, check out Novatech, Aria, Cougar Extreme, Ginger6, Power Computing, Computer Planet, PC Option, Element Tech or Arbico. When I was looking for competitive quotes for friend on a pre-built system, those companies looked best for not adding too much extra on top of the parts cost.
If you have a friend who could assemble the components, first post in the new builds section of the forum to get advice on the best options for your budget (people will be able to give more specific advice there) and then look at Aria, Novatech, Scan, eBuyer and Dabs to find the best prices on those components.
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Radeon 6670 £45 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards+-+GPUs/Graphics+Cards+-+AMD/Radeon+HD+6670/ARIANET+Radeon+HD+6670+2048MB+GDDR3+PCI-Express+Graphics+Card+%2B+2+FREE+Games%21+?productId=50957
4 GB RAM £17 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory+-+RAM/DDR3/Dual+Channel+-+%281333MHz%29/Corsair+Value+Select+4GB+%282x2GB%29+DDR3+PC3-10666C9+1333MHz+Dual+Channel+Kit+%28CMV4GX3M2A1333C9%29+?productId=51024
Motherboard £37 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards+-+Intel/Socket+1155+-+Intel+H61/GIGABYTE+GA-H61MA-D2V+GEN3+Intel+H61+%28REV+B3%29+Socket+1155+DDR3+PCI-Express+Motherboard+?productId=48246
Power supply £36 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplies+-+PSUs/Non-Modular+650W+or+less/430W+Corsair+Builder+Series+430CX+V2+80PLUS+Power+Supply+?productId=42487
CPU £42 http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Intel+Pentium+G630+2.70GHz+%28Sandybridge%29+Socket+LGA1155+Processor+-+Retail+?productId=51642
Case £25 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/Micro+ATX/ARIANET+Noir+Black+Micro-ATX+Case+?productId=47977
HDD £27 http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/320GB+TOSHIBA+SATA+II+2.5%22+Laptop+Hard+Drive+-+HDD+-+Recertified+%28Mixed%29+?productId=52255
DVDRW £11 http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Samsung+SH-S222BB%2FBEBE+DVD+Writer+?operation=shoppingBasketAdd&productId=48004&context=superSpecial
About £260 but you still need windows which isd around £70 for 7 this is around as cheap as you can get anything new
4 GB RAM £17 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory+-+RAM/DDR3/Dual+Channel+-+%281333MHz%29/Corsair+Value+Select+4GB+%282x2GB%29+DDR3+PC3-10666C9+1333MHz+Dual+Channel+Kit+%28CMV4GX3M2A1333C9%29+?productId=51024
Motherboard £37 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards+-+Intel/Socket+1155+-+Intel+H61/GIGABYTE+GA-H61MA-D2V+GEN3+Intel+H61+%28REV+B3%29+Socket+1155+DDR3+PCI-Express+Motherboard+?productId=48246
Power supply £36 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplies+-+PSUs/Non-Modular+650W+or+less/430W+Corsair+Builder+Series+430CX+V2+80PLUS+Power+Supply+?productId=42487
CPU £42 http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Intel+Pentium+G630+2.70GHz+%28Sandybridge%29+Socket+LGA1155+Processor+-+Retail+?productId=51642
Case £25 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/Micro+ATX/ARIANET+Noir+Black+Micro-ATX+Case+?productId=47977
HDD £27 http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/320GB+TOSHIBA+SATA+II+2.5%22+Laptop+Hard+Drive+-+HDD+-+Recertified+%28Mixed%29+?productId=52255
DVDRW £11 http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Samsung+SH-S222BB%2FBEBE+DVD+Writer+?operation=shoppingBasketAdd&productId=48004&context=superSpecial
About £260 but you still need windows which isd around £70 for 7 this is around as cheap as you can get anything new
Be very careful with buying a computer to upgrade. Typically parts are cheapened out enough that they can make the system run for as little as possible. This is not a bad thing,.. however if you want to add parts you likely won't have motherboard support, psu wattage, case airflow, etc. Usually its better to buy a new one because the cheaper parts are usually the only salvagable parts.. negating the point of upgrading if you replace nearly alll the parts.
And the hard drives even might be cheapened out to slower older drives.
And the hard drives even might be cheapened out to slower older drives.
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