(CompuTronix help me) I3 6100 / I3 6100t MAXIMUM SAFE TEMPERATURE

[mihalachesolo]

Hi . I am from Romania country , Europe . I wish to buy a i3 6100 or a i3 6100T but before this , i want to understand more about max safe temperature for each procesor can use .

This pictures is from Intel site 6th generation cpu (Skylake)

i3 6100 51W TDP - 62.8C max T case
i3 6100T 35W TDP - 66.1C max T case
And from another label - TJ max 100C

Questions :

1) How to understand better these temperatures ? Are these temperature mean CPU temperature with 100% max intel stock cooler at 22C ambiental temperature ?

b) If prabably 6100/6100T have same stock cooler , why 6100T run hotter althrought have lower TDP ?

2) Which is max safe temperature ("package" temp) for these cpu ?

b) @CompuTronix : You say "Core temperatures in the mid 70's are safe." . These mean if i keep "pachage" temp up to 75c is safe for long term ? Are this applies is true for these processors ? Tell me which package temperatures would be max ideal for these procesors .

 

[CompuTronix]

i3 6100 51W TDP - 62.8C max T case
i3 6100T 35W TDP - 66.1C max T case
And from another label - TJ max 100C

Questions :

1) How to understand better these temperatures ? Are these temperature mean CPU temperature with 100% max intel stock cooler at 22C ambiental temperature ?

b) If prabably 6100/6100T have same stock cooler , why 6100T run hotter althrought have lower TDP ?

2) Which is max safe temperature ("package" temp) for these cpu ?

b) @CompuTronix : You say "Core temperatures in the mid 70's are safe." . These mean if i keep "pachage" temp up to 75c is safe for long term ? Are this applies is true for these processors ? Tell me which package temperatures would be max ideal for these procesors .

First, before you read the Datasheets, please check the spec's at Intel's Product Information: http://ark.intel.com/products/family/88394/6th-Generation-Intel-Core-i3-Processors#@Desktop

i3 6100 51W TDP - 62.8C Tcase - PCG 2015C (65W)
Tcase is based on a 51 Watt processor using a 65 Watt thermal solution.

i3 6100T 35W TDP - 66.1C Tcase - PCG 2015A (35W)
Tcase is based on a 35 Watt processor using a 35 Watt thermal solution.

Keep in mind that Core temperature is 5C higher than Tcase.

Package temperature is the hottest Core. Yes, mid-70's are safe, which means keep it under 80C.

Although TjMax 100C is Throttle temperature, Core i 6th Generation processors have features such as Configurable TDP (cTDP) and Scenario Design Power (SDP) that can cause throttling to begin as low as 80C, which again means keep it under 80.

Please read this Tom's Sticky: Intel Temperature Guide - http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1800828/intel-temperature-guide.html

From Section 8 - Tcase and TDP

"Although Intel measures Tcase on the surface of the Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS), they also calculate the value based on a reference design stock cooler. There are several models with different Thermal Design Power (TDP), which is expressed in Watts.

Certain TDP coolers are packaged with different TDP processors. Several Generations of Quad Core processors were packaged with a universal 95 Watt TDP cooler. With few exceptions, this is why Tcase specifications vary. For example, the 95 Watt 2600K has a Tcase of 72C, but the 77 Watt 3770K has a Tcase of 67C as shown above in Section 7.

The i7 6700K and i5 6600K don’t include a stock cooler. Tcase is instead based on Intel’s new cooler which is sold separately: Intel’s Skylake Cooler - http://vr-zone.com/articles/this-is-what-intels-first-cpu-cooler-for-skylake-looks-like/97189.html - Unlike the 95 Watt cooler packaged with earlier Quad Core processors, Intel’s new cooler is 130 Watts for the 91 Watt 6700K and 6600K, so Tcase is only 63C, also shown above in Section 7.

Processors with Hyperthreading run hotter than their counterparts without Hyperthreading, even though they may have the same Tcase and TDP. Overclocked processors using higher Core voltages can run up to 50% over TDP, which drastically increases temperatures. This is why high TDP air or liquid cooling is critical to keep Core temperatures under 80C.

Intel’s silicon fabrication has been very consistent for the past decade across dozens of variants. Processors with low Tcase specifications are as thermally capable as the 4790K with a Tcase of 74C. Regardless of your processor’s microarchitecture, Tcase specification, TDP value, CPU cooler or any other variables, Core temperatures in the mid 70’s are safe."

CT

 

[Karsten75]

I was reading this and found that the link in Computronix's quote was broken. After a brief search I managed to turn up the referenced article, as well as the source article. In case anyone else is interested, here they are:

http://vr-zone.com/articles/this-is-what-intels-first-cpu-cooler-for-skylake-looks-like/97189.html

http://www.kitguru.net/components/cooling/anton-shilov/intel-rolls-out-its-most-advanced-air-cooler-to-date-ts15a-for-lga1151-processors/

 

[CompuTronix]

Thanks, Karsten75. I routinely check the links in my Guide, but I wasn't aware that link was broken. It must have happened recently. Thanks again.

CT