Question Concerned about Ryzen 5800x running hot, would 5700x be better?

[The Worker]

I was about to order a Ryzen 5800x for a new PC, but since it just went out of stock at Newegg I decided to look into any reason I might want a different version. I've read a lot about the 5800x running hot, and I was wondering if it might be better to go with the 5700x? What about the 5900x? I plan to be animating, modeling, and rendering, with some video editing. Definitely don't want to be messing with settings, fans, cooling, etc, any more than i have to. I will NOT be using an AIO, I do not want to take any chance with liquid leaking into my PC, so a cooler CPU might be better. Although I did see that the 5800x is SUPPOSED to run close to 90 degrees C, according to AMD, in some PC Builder video. Any reason to avoid the 5800x? Thank you!

 

[DSzymborski]

A good air cooler will be just as good as most AIOs. The 5800X does tend to run a bit hotter than the other Zen 3 chips, largely because the heat is very concentrated. But it can be used. However, you're unlikely to see any real-world difference between the 5700X and the 5800X and the former runs cooler.

It would be useful to watch Burke's review to see how you feel about the 5700X.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr5V1lgctYw


The 5900X, of course, is another tier of CPU if you can use the cores.

 

[CountMike]

I was about to order a Ryzen 5800x for a new PC, but since it just went out of stock at Newegg I decided to look into any reason I might want a different version. I've read a lot about the 5800x running hot, and I was wondering if it might be better to go with the 5700x? What about the 5900x? I plan to be animating, modeling, and rendering, with some video editing. Definitely don't want to be messing with settings, fans, cooling, etc, any more than i have to. I will NOT be using an AIO, I do not want to take any chance with liquid leaking into my PC, so a cooler CPU might be better. Although I did see that the 5800x is SUPPOSED to run close to 90 degrees C, according to AMD, in some PC Builder video. Any reason to avoid the 5800x? Thank you!

From personal experience, for 5800x you will need top notch air cooler or a 360 AIO to have any chance of having low temps at it's full performance. Air coolers for it will be quite large and need good case cooling so your case should be able to accommodate it. Be careful there. AIOs are quite reliable nowadays, leaks are very, very rare and most manufacturers provide full warranty for anything ruined by leaks.
PS:
All 5000 series are allowed up to 90-95c before throttling depending on model.

 

[drea.drechsler]

I was about to order a Ryzen 5800x for a new PC, but since it just went out of stock at Newegg...

Curious...already out of stock on Newegg?

Microcenter still has them if you've one close by. Amazon has them too, free shipping for Amazon Prime members but price at Microcenter is better.

BTW, just to clear up "temperature" for the 5800X. It spikes temps pretty high in routine use but don't confuse that with thermal output as it's really still quite low. Those spikes are from one of the dozens of sensors reporting one tiny hotspot on the CPU, then another as the heaviest processing load gets moved through the core's pipeline and around to different cores for load leveling. A temperature reading that's averaged over time helps understand the CPU's true thermal output better.

It's only when it's pushed really hard processing AVX instruction-heavy tasks as when rendering videos, graphic images or something similar that it can start putting out some real heat. That's when a "big" cooler helps with heat transfer. Playing games is not (usually) extremely heavy processing; in many cases it's actually quite light.

5800X has the reputation for being the "hottest" because it has one CPU die with 8 high-clocked cores. That doesn't mean it's uncontrolled. It can run up to 90C in use and the way AMD describes it's like it's temperature seeking: that is, it will continue trying to boost (within it's other operating parameters) until it gets to 90C. It's normal and expected for it so the better cooling you can give it the better it will boost and perform.

 

[sw3000]

Perhaps this may help also: I currently have a 5700x with the "archaic" Wraith Prism air cooler (which came with my former 3700x, which I just sold, great Zen 2 CPU btw). Thermals are very good though, but that has to do with my case (5 140mm intake fans) I am going to get the 5800X3D because for me, it makes sense in terms of my strong interest and use in gaming performance (RTX 3070 Tuff gaming OC GPU) ...i.e. I don't use my computer for rendering, streaming, production applications...primarily just browser/internet use, paying bills and YouTube streaming. I recently got the Noctua NU-12A air cooler, though "pricey" 100% worth it and should cool the 5800X3D's TDP of 105 watts. The 5800x has the same TDP, but the configuration of the CPU of course is not the the same . In some reviews I've seen it (5800X3D)runs hot due to the concentration of the 3D-V cache stacked within the CCD. In a nutshell, put aside extra $$$ for a premium cooler. I prefer air coolers ( the Noctua NH-12A with tax cost $130...yes, $130 for an air cooler) and the way my case is configured with 5 intake fans, and the GLOWING reviews of the Noctua cooler, when I purchase and install the 5800X3D it should be more than fine. Do your research and consider what's best for you and also your system's cooling configuration.

 

[Math Geek]

i run a 5900x and have a simple air cooler on it. no problems with temps at all no matter what i'm doing. i have PBO turned on but otherwise the system does whatever it does and i don't interfere with the auto PBO settings.

i have a Be Quiet Pure Rock 2 which has worked great so far.