concerned I do not have enough Wattage Or some other problem?

[Whonoes]

Hello,

I have had my PC for two years but after using calculators and testing frame rate with my brother who was a very similar PC and my PC getting a lot fewer frames I am wondering if my PSU doesn't have enough wattage. I don't have crashes or my PC turning off just the performance Issues. I know there could be other things doing this but I am not sure what else would be the problem If you have any ideas please tell me.



My PC power calc: http://puu.sh/reNPU/d41db0ff8b.jpg

My PC Specs

Processor AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor

Video Card AMD Radeon R9 200 Series (SAPPHIRE Radeon R9 270X)

MotherBoard GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P (rev. 2.0)

RAM 8.0 GB

Operating System Microsoft Windows 10

DVD TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224DB ATA Device

CD TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224DB ATA Device

Storage Seagate Desktop HDD ST1000DM003 1TB

PSU COUGAR RX500 500W

 

[CountMike]

Those calculators are not terribly accurate but still should have a PSU with at least 25% more real power than declared on the PSU itself. Another important feature to look for is Amperage on 12v rail, specially on multi rail PSUs and PCIe rails.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

1. you have a crappy PSU and would be better upgrading to a decent one - if you need help to select one, link you favorite online store (in any language) and budget.
2. Performance issues might be caused by something else like high temperature.

 

[Whonoes]

1. you have a crappy PSU and would be better upgrading to a decent one - if you need help to select one, link you favorite online store (in any language) and budget.
2. Performance issues might be caused by something else like high temperature.

1. http://www.newegg.com/ Also I was thinking about upgrading to a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113398 what would I need with that also for budget $150 or less.
2. I checked my CPU a GPU temps 52 C GPU and 49 C for CPU with the same low fps.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

Don't
That would not be much of an upgrade.
Better spend 300-350 on switching to i5
regarding PSUs ...
that would be minimum recommended: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/nB3RsY/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii620bronze
that would be excellent: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rp8H99/corsair-power-supply-cp9020091na
they will serve you well for few builds.
regarding performance ....
what are the CPU and GPU core frequencies when you have issues ? (use something like MSI afterburner to see them as overlay in game)

 

[Whonoes]

Those calculators are not terribly accurate but still should have a PSU with at least 25% more real power than declared on the PSU itself. Another important feature to look for is Amperage on 12v rail, specially on multi rail PSUs and PCIe rails.

I am not sure what you mean 25% more real power? you mean the calc says 572 watts so I should have 715 watts PSU? Also, could you explain amperage?

 

[Whonoes]

Don't
That would not be much of an upgrade.
Better spend 300-350 on switching to i5
regarding PSUs ...
that would be minimum recommended: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/nB3RsY/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii620bronze
that would be excellent: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rp8H99/corsair-power-supply-cp9020091na
they will serve you well for few builds.
regarding performance ....
what are the CPU and GPU core frequencies when you have issues ? (use something like MSI afterburner to see them as overlay in game)

What would I need to switch? a new motherboard, the CPU and a new GPU? also a better power supply? also The games I am trying to improve performance: Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade, Space Hulk Deathwing, ARK:Survival Evolved and Guildwars 2. I can run GW2, ARK and EC But with bad fps do you think a i5 would run them at 60 fps? I see Deathwing min is i5 so probably not.

as for frequencies from some reason I can't get in-game overlay I, however, took some screen shots if they help:
http://puu.sh/rfLGG/5586afa8a7.jpg
http://puu.sh/rfLCt/04d04f4f4b.png

I would also like to thank you for your help.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

Switching to the top overclockable i5-6600K would require a CPU ~230$ + Z170MB ~90-150$ and RAM 16GB ~70$
making it on a budget would be i5-6500 ~200$ + MB ~50-70$ + RAM 8-16GB 30-70$
so at minimum a switch will require ~300$ at the top ~400$.
Plus the PSU that you would be better with anyway regardless of the platform.
Good thing is that you can probably sell your parts and thus reduce the cost of the switch. Another way would be sell your system as is - you can probably get ~300$ for it and get a complete new build for ~800-900$ that will include an i5, GTX 1060 and a good power supply.
The i5 (both 6500 and of course 6600K) are way better gaming CPUs than anything that AMD can offer right now. They are more than capable to hit over 60FPS. I would not recommend them for 120+ target FPS, that's where i7 have to be used in some games to get there.
the games you mention have "recommended" first gen i7 and skylake i5 at close to 4GHz is more capable than that.
if you can not setup the overlay, detach the monitoring graphs and stretch them. that way you will have the "history". Important thing is to see what happens in game. frequencies drop in a fraction of second and temperatures can drop 10C in couple of seconds.

 

[Whonoes]

Switching to the top overclockable i5-6600K would require a CPU ~230$ + Z170MB ~90-150$ and RAM 16GB ~70$
making it on a budget would be i5-6500 ~200$ + MB ~50-70$ + RAM 8-16GB 30-70$
so at minimum a switch will require ~300$ at the top ~400$.
Plus the PSU that you would be better with anyway regardless of the platform.
Good thing is that you can probably sell your parts and thus reduce the cost of the switch. Another way would be sell your system as is - you can probably get ~300$ for it and get a complete new build for ~800-900$ that will include an i5, GTX 1060 and a good power supply.
The i5 (both 6500 and of course 6600K) are way better gaming CPUs than anything that AMD can offer right now. They are more than capable to hit over 60FPS. I would not recommend them for 120+ target FPS, that's where i7 have to be used in some games to get there.
the games you mention have "recommended" first gen i7 and skylake i5 at close to 4GHz is more capable than that.
if you can not setup the overlay, detach the monitoring graphs and stretch them. that way you will have the "history". Important thing is to see what happens in game. frequencies drop in a fraction of second and temperatures can drop 10C in couple of seconds.

So My current RAM won't work? (G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-2133C9D-8GXL) It also says "The G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory operating voltage of 1.5V exceeds the Intel Skylake CPU recommended maximum of 1.35V+5% (1.417V). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1.35V voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the Intel recommended maximum." would that be a problem?

What would I need for wattage? and what would I need If I were to OC?

Do you know a good place to sell PC parts at?


Also, this would be a good MB?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157652&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

 

[maxwellmelon]

"I have had my PC for two years but after using calculators and testing frame rate with my brother who was a very similar PC and my PC getting a lot fewer frames"

what is your bothers pc build? what is the FPS difference? Similar may not be that similar so I'm wondering what are you comparing your system to.

also ignoring the "benchmarks" in the games you play are you getting playable frame rates? another words is your current computer actually giving you issues(lag, jumping around) because your post is all about comparing benchmarks which has nothing to do with "real usage" and real user experience .

 

[n0ns3ns3]

Even though you have an excellent DDR3 memory kit, you'd be better buying 8GB DDR4 2400MHz+ for 30$ than trying to use this one in skylake build.
Motherboard. I'm not a fan of ASRock. even the placement of the M.2 slot below the GPU slot make me doubt that a qualified engineer designed it.
that would be an awesome mother board if you like black and red: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132567&cm_re=z170_pro_gaming-_-13-132-567-_-Product
Wattage, for a single GPU system with intlel processor, a good 520w PSU will be enough. 620-650watt has enough headroom for any intel CPU and any GPU.
Regarding selling... tough question. I'm not a US resident, so I'm only aware of ebay and amazon options. Where i live, there are second hand sites that are free to use.