Question Concerning latency ?

[zams133]

hello guys im new here.

I'mhaving a problem, my pc started to go a bit crazy for the past 2 days.. maybe i know this post has been asked multiple times but i think everybody has a similar/different problem and i want to adress mine ... still having this famous

Your system appears to be having trouble handling real-time audio and other tasks. You are likely to experience buffer underruns appearing as drop outs, clicks or pops. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. At least one detected problem appears to be network related. In case you are using a WLAN adapter, try disabling it to get better results. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates.
LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for 0:27:10 (h:mm:ss) on all processors.

not hearing any pops or clicked ... updated my bios so now i want you guys opinion... the PROS please help
infos:

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SYSTEM INFORMATION
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Computer name: MSI
OS version: Windows 11, 10.0, version 2009, build: 22631 (x64)
Hardware: GF63 Thin 10SCXR, Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
BIOS: E16R4IMS.10B
CPU: GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10750H CPU @ 2.60GHz
Logical processors: 12
Processor groups: 1
Processor group size: 12
RAM: 32565 MB total


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CPU SPEED
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Reported CPU speed (WMI): 2592 MHz
Reported CPU speed (registry): 2592 MHz

Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results.


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MEASURED INTERRUPT TO USER PROCESS LATENCIES
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The interrupt to process latency reflects the measured interval that a usermode process needed to respond to a hardware request from the moment the interrupt service routine started execution. This includes the scheduling and execution of a DPC routine, the signaling of an event and the waking up of a usermode thread from an idle wait state in response to that event.

Highest measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 12719,80
Average measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 9,292712

Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 12713,40
Average measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 3,210263


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REPORTED ISRs
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Interrupt service routines are routines installed by the OS and device drivers that execute in response to a hardware interrupt signal.

Highest ISR routine execution time (µs): 404,958333
Driver with highest ISR routine execution time: HDAudBus.sys - High Definition Audio Bus Driver, Microsoft Corporation

Highest reported total ISR routine time (%): 0,010156
Driver with highest ISR total time: HDAudBus.sys - High Definition Audio Bus Driver, Microsoft Corporation

Total time spent in ISRs (%) 0,011232

ISR count (execution time <250 µs): 220298
ISR count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 500-1000 µs): 4
ISR count (execution time 1000-2000 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 2000-4000 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0


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REPORTED DPCs
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DPC routines are part of the interrupt servicing dispatch mechanism and disable the possibility for a process to utilize the CPU while it is interrupted until the DPC has finished execution.

Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 2089,743827
Driver with highest DPC routine execution time: ndis.sys - NDIS (Network Driver Interface Specification), Microsoft Corporation

Highest reported total DPC routine time (%): 0,062451
Driver with highest DPC total execution time: dxgkrnl.sys - DirectX Graphics Kernel, Microsoft Corporation

Total time spent in DPCs (%) 0,114301

DPC count (execution time <250 µs): 1767200
DPC count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0
DPC count (execution time 500-10000 µs): 809
DPC count (execution time 1000-2000 µs): 13
DPC count (execution time 2000-4000 µs): 2
DPC count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0


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REPORTED HARD PAGEFAULTS
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Hard pagefaults are events that get triggered by making use of virtual memory that is not resident in RAM but backed by a memory mapped file on disk. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires reading in the memory from disk while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution.

NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit.

Process with highest pagefault count: explorer.exe

Total number of hard pagefaults 73566
Hard pagefault count of hardest hit process: 24434
Number of processes hit: 129


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PER CPU DATA
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CPU 0 Interrupt cycle time (s): 65,243399
CPU 0 ISR highest execution time (µs): 404,958333
CPU 0 ISR total execution time (s): 2,195918
CPU 0 ISR count: 220162
CPU 0 DPC highest execution time (µs): 2089,743827
CPU 0 DPC total execution time (s): 17,680197
CPU 0 DPC count: 1192464
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CPU 1 Interrupt cycle time (s): 16,471137
CPU 1 ISR highest execution time (µs): 86,372685
CPU 1 ISR total execution time (s): 0,001664
CPU 1 ISR count: 140
CPU 1 DPC highest execution time (µs): 839,086420
CPU 1 DPC total execution time (s): 0,287672
CPU 1 DPC count: 28110
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CPU 2 Interrupt cycle time (s): 20,049721
CPU 2 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 2 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 2 ISR count: 0
CPU 2 DPC highest execution time (µs): 289,320988
CPU 2 DPC total execution time (s): 0,682099
CPU 2 DPC count: 60475
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CPU 3 Interrupt cycle time (s): 19,006763
CPU 3 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 3 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 3 ISR count: 0
CPU 3 DPC highest execution time (µs): 213,445988
CPU 3 DPC total execution time (s): 0,220077
CPU 3 DPC count: 32328
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CPU 4 Interrupt cycle time (s): 20,655503
CPU 4 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 4 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 4 ISR count: 0
CPU 4 DPC highest execution time (µs): 1350,861111
CPU 4 DPC total execution time (s): 0,667640
CPU 4 DPC count: 101126
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CPU 5 Interrupt cycle time (s): 21,381396
CPU 5 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 5 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 5 ISR count: 0
CPU 5 DPC highest execution time (µs): 270,765432
CPU 5 DPC total execution time (s): 0,637150
CPU 5 DPC count: 99725
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CPU 6 Interrupt cycle time (s): 22,282798
CPU 6 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 6 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 6 ISR count: 0
CPU 6 DPC highest execution time (µs): 511,024691
CPU 6 DPC total execution time (s): 0,699575
CPU 6 DPC count: 85685
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CPU 7 Interrupt cycle time (s): 24,708531
CPU 7 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 7 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 7 ISR count: 0
CPU 7 DPC highest execution time (µs): 471,81250
CPU 7 DPC total execution time (s): 0,32110
CPU 7 DPC count: 44627
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CPU 8 Interrupt cycle time (s): 13,991950
CPU 8 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 8 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 8 ISR count: 0
CPU 8 DPC highest execution time (µs): 257,515432
CPU 8 DPC total execution time (s): 0,347642
CPU 8 DPC count: 48266
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CPU 9 Interrupt cycle time (s): 14,256381
CPU 9 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 9 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 9 ISR count: 0
CPU 9 DPC highest execution time (µs): 503,826389
CPU 9 DPC total execution time (s): 0,247143
CPU 9 DPC count: 22769
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CPU 10 Interrupt cycle time (s): 14,696763
CPU 10 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 10 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 10 ISR count: 0
CPU 10 DPC highest execution time (µs): 222,222222
CPU 10 DPC total execution time (s): 0,322698
CPU 10 DPC count: 28873
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CPU 11 Interrupt cycle time (s): 15,202637
CPU 11 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 11 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 11 ISR count: 0
CPU 11 DPC highest execution time (µs): 298,226852
CPU 11 DPC total execution time (s): 0,251072
CPU 11 DPC count: 23576
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[zams133]

if yall need more info ask i will gladly provide

 

[zams133]

i stopped the latencymon and did it again and now its not HDAudBus.sys the problem its acpi.sys

but still ndis.sys for the second one

 

[dingo07]

How long have you had this computer?
Did you make any changes to the system since receiving these errors?

 

[zams133]

I have it since 2020 i think ! And no . Well I did format it yesgerday but it was not a full reset it ( i still did a full Windows reset but somehow after installing windows , it asks me if i wanted my old folders back or something similar .. Fresh windows with some game left so no real change

 

[dingo07]

I would reinstall - but delete all partitions before installing. Be sure to save any data before doing this. Also, have a USB with your MB drivers on it, ready to install once Windows is at the desktop.
If there's a GPU in the system, remove it if you can and use the MB video before installing Windows. Only install the GPU back in after all drivers are up to date, after the Windows install.

 

[zams133]

Ill try!

 

[ubuysa]

I think it's the hard page fault rate that's most likely the cause of the latency here. The test ran for 27 mins 10 seconds, that's 1630 seconds. In that time you had 73566 hard page faults (one's requiring a page-in from the paging file), that's a hard page fault rate of over 45 per second. That's a very high hard page fault rate and it will contribute considerably to your latency.

A high hard page fault rate is one of the key indicators of insufficient RAM installed.

 

[Colif]

At least one detected problem appears to be network related. In case you are using a WLAN adapter, try disabling it to get better results. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates.

Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 2089,743827
Driver with highest DPC routine execution time: ndis.sys - NDIS (Network Driver Interface Specification), Microsoft Corporation

try updating lan drivers. Wifi or Ethernet drivers are a well known cause of latency

https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GF63-Thin-10SCXR/support#driver

Nvidia drivers are always at top of the reports, it doesn't mean anything. They are the most active driver.

 

[zams133]

I would reinstall - but delete all partitions before installing. Be sure to save any data before doing this. Also, have a USB with your MB drivers on it, ready to install once Windows is at the desktop.
If there's a GPU in the system, remove it if you can and use the MB video before installing Windows. Only install the GPU back in after all drivers are up to date, after the Windows install.

Its a laptop

 

[zams133]

I think it's the hard page fault rate that's most likely the cause of the latency here. The test ran for 27 mins 10 seconds, that's 1630 seconds. In that time you had 73566 hard page faults (one's requiring a page-in from the paging file), that's a hard page fault rate of over 45 per second. That's a very high hard page fault rate and it will contribute considerably to your latency.

A high hard page fault rate is one of the key indicators of insufficient RAM installed.

I got 32gb ram in it

 

[Ralston18]

Laptop - disk drive(s): make, model, capacity, how full?

 

[zams133]

Laptop - disk drive(s): make, model, capacity, how full?

Is there a way I can add a picture from my phone in here ?

 

[Ralston18]

Pictures, screenshots, etc. can be posted here via imgur (www.imgur.com)

Note the "New post" icon in the upper left corner of imgur.

Drag in your image(s) and then post the resulting link.

 

[ubuysa]

I got 32gb ram in it

Then why are you seeing over 45 hard page faults per second?

 

[zams133]

https://imgur.com/a/XwfX8XS

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There it is

 

[zams133]

Then why are you seeing over 45 hard page faults per second?

This is why I am here

 

[Ralston18]

Open the Disk Management window.

Expand the window so all can be seen.

Photograph and post.

= = = =

Noted that Winget is installed. Have you been using Winget?

If so, what has been done?

 

[zams133]

Open the Disk Management window.

Expand the window so all can be seen.

Photograph and post.

= = = =

Noted that Winget is installed. Have you been using Winget?

If so, what has been done?

I just did a full reset of my computer .. if the problem persist I will gladly provide. And i have not used winget .. i used the titus powershell command to optimise my laptop

 

[zams133]

Open the Disk Management window.

Expand the window so all can be seen.

Photograph and post.

= = = =

Noted that Winget is installed. Have you been using Winget?

If so, what has been done?

https://imgur.com/oBhtozj

https://imgur.com/WzIQM4L

there u go ... after a full reset and 1 installing games .. still having issues

 

[zams133]

https://imgur.com/oBhtozj

https://imgur.com/WzIQM4L

there u go ... after a full reset and 1 installing games .. still having issues

https://imgur.com/0bzmX6R

another one now its kernel

 

[LinuxDevice]

Your ISR (Interrupt Service Routines) are zero on all CPU cores except the first core (CPU0). This is normally the case during boot, but not on a running system. If you bring up task manager, do you see multiple cores being used?

FYI, if this is a hardware interrupt, then this is how hardware physically on a bus are triggered to run. One has to have a means to migrate a hardware IRQ to a new CPU core if it is a hardware interrupt, but software interrupts can run on any core. It could be that the drivers for your hardware devices are starving each other out on CPU0. Does CPU use show the first core at very high load? Could be a software or hardware issue (there would be a programmable I/O APIC or similar which can be enabled or disabled; sorry, don't know in windows how to check that, I'm a Linux guy).

 

[zams133]

its going from direct x kernel to ndis the longer i stay the latencymon on the more errors i get XD sorry for spamming this post i am pissed

 

[zams133]

Your ISR (Interrupt Service Routines) are zero on all CPU cores except the first core (CPU0). This is normally the case during boot, but not on a running system. If you bring up task manager, do you see multiple cores being used?

FYI, if this is a hardware interrupt, then this is how hardware physically on a bus are triggered to run. One has to have a means to migrate a hardware IRQ to a new CPU core if it is a hardware interrupt, but software interrupts can run on any core. It could be that the drivers for your hardware devices are starving each other out on CPU0. Does CPU use show the first core at very high load? Could be a software or hardware issue (there would be a programmable I/O APIC or similar which can be enabled or disabled; sorry, don't know in windows how to check that, I'm a Linux guy).

https://imgur.com/f2uuMHX

View: https://imgur.com/f2uuMHX

 

[SkyNetRising]

its going from direct x kernel to ndis the longer i stay the latencymon on the more errors i get XD sorry for spamming this post i am pissed

You're playing Black Desert Online on Intel integrated graphics. LOL
What exactly are your expectations there?

Did you even check game system requirements?