Confirmed: ASRock Says Intel's Coffee Lake CPUs Will Require New Motherboards

[TMTOWTSAC]

Got my 3770k/Z77 fall of 2013, so I'm looking at 4yrs on this pc now. Having to buy a new mobo with new ram, new cpu and new gpu isn't something I'm gonna quibble about. I'm due some upgrades, I'd like native m.2 onboard support, native USB3.1, etc etc. Even being top of the line cpu, it's still a good 30+% behind anything currently top line, so having to change sockets to get what most already have isn't any sort of issue. Software controlled led would be nice, built into mobo headers instead of adding a hub which takes manual controls.

Now that you mention it, I don't actually know anyone who upgrades every new socket. People usually skip at least one, if not two generations now between platform upgrades. Kaby Lake hasn't even been compelling enough to convince all the Sandy Bridge owners they need to upgrade.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

like anyone has ever upgraded a processor without a new motherboard. im sure some cheap bastard out there has and he will cry hard.

Cheap bastard checking in. Two CPUs on a Socket 7, three went through a 775, and I'm on my second chip with my current 1151. Doubt it's just me. My Socket A and 754 boards never got the same love, though.

 

[Karadjgne]

I had a 775 board once, wasn't worth upgrading the cpu on it, 915 chipset so not even a q6600 for me. It lasted 6 months or so in daughter's bedroom.

 

[bloodroses]

like anyone has ever upgraded a processor without a new motherboard. im sure some cheap bastard out there has and he will cry hard.

Cheap bastard checking in. Two CPUs on a Socket 7, three went through a 775, and I'm on my second chip with my current 1151. Doubt it's just me. My Socket A and 754 boards never got the same love, though.

What CPUs are you buying to go through that many CPUs per socket? To me it seems like it's the opposite of being cheap since you end up spending more money in the long run than just paying for what you want in the first place.

 

[artk2219]

like anyone has ever upgraded a processor without a new motherboard. im sure some cheap bastard out there has and he will cry hard.

Cheap bastard checking in. Two CPUs on a Socket 7, three went through a 775, and I'm on my second chip with my current 1151. Doubt it's just me. My Socket A and 754 boards never got the same love, though.

What CPUs are you buying to go through that many CPUs per socket? To me it seems like it's the opposite of being cheap since you end up spending more money in the long run than just paying for what you want in the first place.

I've done the same, and for me it wasn't always about having a huge upgrade so much as playing around with my system. My 939 board went from an Athlon 3200+ to an Athlon 64 x2 4800+. AM3 went from a Phenom II 925 to a 965 to a 960 t unlocked to an x6. AM3+ went from that 960t to an 8150 to my current 8320. Mostly I either got a crazy good deal or the chip was given to me by someone else, I was always able to sell the old chip to either completely cover or mostly cover the cost. It was worth it to play with later binnings, chip unlocking, and better clocking chips. Granted I am an edge case, but I've definitely helped people upgrade from Athlon 64's, Athlon II x2's, and phenoms, to Phenom II x4's, x6's, or FX 83xx chips (gotta love the dual DDR2 and DDR3 controllers in the phenom's II's, and AM3+'s backwards compatibility) or Pentium dual cores to I5's and I7's vs pitching their old board and cpu completely for something that wasn't necessarily as cost effective.

 

[bloodroses]

like anyone has ever upgraded a processor without a new motherboard. im sure some cheap bastard out there has and he will cry hard.

Cheap bastard checking in. Two CPUs on a Socket 7, three went through a 775, and I'm on my second chip with my current 1151. Doubt it's just me. My Socket A and 754 boards never got the same love, though.

What CPUs are you buying to go through that many CPUs per socket? To me it seems like it's the opposite of being cheap since you end up spending more money in the long run than just paying for what you want in the first place.

I've done the same, and for me it wasn't always about having a huge upgrade so much as playing around with my system. My 939 board went from an Athlon 3200+ to an Athlon 64 x2 4800+. AM3 went from a Phenom II 925 to a 965 to a 960 t unlocked to an x6. AM3+ went from that 960t to an 8150 to my current 8320. Mostly I either got a crazy good deal or the chip was given to me by someone else, I was always able to sell the old chip to either completely cover or mostly cover the cost. It was worth it to play with later binnings, chip unlocking, and better clocking chips. Granted I am an edge case, but I've definitely helped people upgrade from Athlon 64's, Athlon II x2's, and phenoms, to Phenom II x6's or FX 83xx chips (gotta love the dual DDR2 and DDR3 controllers in the phenom's II's, and AM3+'s backwards compatibility) or Pentium dual cores to I5's and I7's vs pitching their old board and cpu completely for something that wasn't necessarily as cost effective.

I can see that. I'm just usually the type that tries to re-purpose old hardware. So, if I upgraded my CPU, I'd want another motherboard anyways to reuse the old CPU... lol

 

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I can see that. I'm just usually the type that tries to re-purpose old hardware. So, if I upgraded my CPU, I'd want another motherboard anyways to reuse the old CPU... lol

Yup, that's another reason why I don't upgrade CPUs on my motherboards, hate to have $100+ spare parts.

 

[artk2219]

like anyone has ever upgraded a processor without a new motherboard. im sure some cheap bastard out there has and he will cry hard.

Cheap bastard checking in. Two CPUs on a Socket 7, three went through a 775, and I'm on my second chip with my current 1151. Doubt it's just me. My Socket A and 754 boards never got the same love, though.

What CPUs are you buying to go through that many CPUs per socket? To me it seems like it's the opposite of being cheap since you end up spending more money in the long run than just paying for what you want in the first place.

I've done the same, and for me it wasn't always about having a huge upgrade so much as playing around with my system. My 939 board went from an Athlon 3200+ to an Athlon 64 x2 4800+. AM3 went from a Phenom II 925 to a 965 to a 960 t unlocked to an x6. AM3+ went from that 960t to an 8150 to my current 8320. Mostly I either got a crazy good deal or the chip was given to me by someone else, I was always able to sell the old chip to either completely cover or mostly cover the cost. It was worth it to play with later binnings, chip unlocking, and better clocking chips. Granted I am an edge case, but I've definitely helped people upgrade from Athlon 64's, Athlon II x2's, and phenoms, to Phenom II x6's or FX 83xx chips (gotta love the dual DDR2 and DDR3 controllers in the phenom's II's, and AM3+'s backwards compatibility) or Pentium dual cores to I5's and I7's vs pitching their old board and cpu completely for something that wasn't necessarily as cost effective.

I can see that. I'm just usually the type that tries to re-purpose old hardware. So, if I upgraded my CPU, I'd want another motherboard anyways to reuse the old CPU... lol

I can see that. I'm just usually the type that tries to re-purpose old hardware. So, if I upgraded my CPU, I'd want another motherboard anyways to reuse the old CPU... lol

Yup, that's another reason why I don't upgrade CPUs on my motherboards, hate to have $100+ spare parts.

Im not saying I don't agree with both of you, I either sell off the old parts or give them to family or friends, I hate having them just sit. In the case of my wifes last upgrade from her 8320e to her Ryzen 1600 the 8320e became a small vhost. I mounted all of the components on the wall behind the TV, around the wall mount, its running xen on ubuntu currently and doing double duty as an htpc for the office.

 

[Malik 722]

Always amuses me seeing AMD fanbots playing this particular angle. Why would you even buy a brand new CPU then turn around and immediately castrate its performance across the board by shoehorning it into some old and obsolete motherboard? That's stupid.

.and exactly how many innovations are found on new intel based mother boards let me guess more led's with each new generation and more bugs.

 

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and exactly how many innovations are found on new intel based mother boards let me guess more led's with each new generation and more bugs.

IIRC, when the first rumors of Coffee Lake requiring a new socket surfaced, one of the suspected reasons was CPU PCIe lanes getting bumped from 16 to 24. Changing the IO complement hosted by the CPU is one of those things that would inevitably require a new socket unless the capability was provided for beforehand.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Cheap bastard checking in. Two CPUs on a Socket 7, three went through a 775, and I'm on my second chip with my current 1151. Doubt it's just me. My Socket A and 754 boards never got the same love, though.

What CPUs are you buying to go through that many CPUs per socket? To me it seems like it's the opposite of being cheap since you end up spending more money in the long run than just paying for what you want in the first place.

That can depend on money available in the first place. In the case of my 775 build in '09, I set a pretty strict spending limit for the platform, dropping about a hundred bucks each on MB and an E7300. A Q9650 would have been north of $300, IIRC. That worked out until I grabbed a used E8500 (great chip, by the way) for something like $60. Finally, a $40 Xeon E5450 with the 775 mod (Q9650 equivalent) went in and got me through until I finally upgraded to 1151 in early 2016.

That's a bit over six years on a single board, and I spent about $100 less than if I had started with the 9650. The same logic led me from a 9800 GT to a 550 ti, which was about the same total outlay as a GTX 260 would have been up front, but got me to the same place in the end for less initial cost. I also had more excuses to dig into the guts of my PC and got more packages in the mail.

But when funds aren't tight, I totally get your logic. My upgrade from an i3 6100 to a 6600K, though worthwhile, wasn't exactly cost-effective, and may never have been with SB-and-later *K chips holding value like a raccoon to something shiny. Not to mention the fact that I gave away the i3 rather than try to re-sell. And unless I can find a killer deal on a 6/7700K, upgrading again will definitely leave me in the red vs. buying a 6700K in the first place, even if I get good resale on the i5.

 

[TJ Hooker]

When I built my PC, skylake had just come out and unlocked chips were at inflated prices due to limited supply ($500+, canadian, for a 6700k). I got an open box i3-6100 for 120 CAD. Earlier this year, I exchanged my 6100 + 250 CAD for a new 6700K from someone on a local buy and sell. So upgrading on the same mobo worked out pretty well for me, and saved me over $100.

 

[charles4691]

I am so tired of all the upgrading for a new CPU. Time to switch teams.

 

[artk2219]

I am so tired of all the upgrading for a new CPU. Time to switch teams.

Honestly it could happen with either team, if you jumped into socket 754, late socket 939, or early AM2 on AMD's side you got screwed. Am2+ was great for the options it afforded, its a shame AM3 couldn't take bulldozer but at least AM3+ let you use your old chips and it gave you a hell of a product portfolio that you could use. It's just a shame it never went further, and that they never pushed out anything really powerful on the FM2 or FM2+ sockets (looking at you 12 and 16 core opterons -_-). With all of that said, AM4 is looking good so far, we will see how TR4 does.

 

[Karadjgne]

Yeah, Broadwell pt. Deux.
I'd not be surprised if Intel dropped the Big Bang nerd and opted for Charlie Sheen as the new spokesperson for the new cpus.

 

[Selfish_Android]

I was going to upgrade my 6700k when i heard that coffee lake was compatible with Z170 and Z270, but now it seems like my next CPU will be from AMD, if i have to change my mobo i better get a Ryzen CPU, will wait for Ryzen 2 tho, good bye intel you lost a costumer.

 

[galacticsithgt]

so that means i have to change my 209 dollar mobo to get the new coffeelake processor NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[pupupc]

Planning to buy a new pc after a very long time so great news