Question Confused about currently available desktop comet lake CPU's and those coming out May 27th

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Why is the Comet Lake desktop i7 processors already available in online stores? I thought this CPU was only coming out on May 27th, this month.

I'm eyeing the core i7-10700K which is the only Comet Lake 10 Gen i7 CPU. I saw the 2 Comet Lake i7 CPUs linked below. But the newegg one is 3.8GHz and the amazon one is 5.1GHz. But, they are both i7-10700K. Why would they be different clock speeds?

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-10700k-core-i7-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118123?Description=cometlake desktop i7&cm_re=cometlake_desktop_i7--19-118-123--Product&quicklink=true

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-10700K-Desktop-Processor-Unlocked/dp/B086ML4XSB

Also, the prices on these are not within my budget. I can't go above $350 on a CPU for my upcoming custom PC build. So is it even feasible to wish for the i7-10700K? Should I just look for an i7 that's within my budget? Thanks.
 
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They probably got stock early.

One is advertising the base clock. The other listing turbo boost.

It's a new CPU with potentially high demand. You may have to wait a while for prices to come down. Assuming demand is lower than expected. Which could be several months. There's no way to know.
 

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They probably got stock early.

One is advertising the base clock. The other listing turbo boost.

It's a new CPU with potentially high demand. You may have to wait a while for prices to come down. Assuming demand is lower than expected. Which could be several months. There's no way to know.
Thanks for this. On PCPartspicker.com, I whipped up a parts list with the i7-10700K or KF, and the total, with all the other parts added, is going through the roof, over $850! I think I'll just go for the older 9th or 8th Gen i7 CPU. Any advice on this, if warranted, would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
Thanks for this. On PCPartspicker.com, I whipped up a parts list with the i7-10700K or KF, and the total, with all the other parts added, is going through the roof, over $850! I think I'll just go for the older 9th or 8th Gen i7 CPU. Any advice on this, if warranted, would be appreciated. Thanks.
Unless you are building an RTX 2080 Ti at 1920x1080 for extreme FPS. AMD gives you more for your money. As you pretty well need the top GPU at a standard resolution to hit the FPS needed to see a difference between high performance CPU.

You can always add more storage later if needed.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($172.39 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($73.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial P2 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB Challenger D OC Video Card ($263.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Metallic Gear Neo Air ATX ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $835.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-22 09:29 EDT-0400
 

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Unless you are building an RTX 2080 Ti at 1920x1080 for extreme FPS. AMD gives you more for your money. As you pretty well need the top GPU at a standard resolution to hit the FPS needed to see a difference between high performance CPU.

You can always add more storage later if needed.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($172.39 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($73.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial P2 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB Challenger D OC Video Card ($263.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Metallic Gear Neo Air ATX ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $835.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-22 09:29 EDT-0400
Thanks for the parts list. Much appreciated. But, I want to stay away from Ryzen and AMD CPUs in general, because there are problems between the AMD SATA drivers and Samsung SSD drives, which I have in my current rig. This is why I want to stick with a intel build. Is this advisable? Thanks.
 
Thanks for the parts list. Much appreciated. But, I want to stay away from Ryzen and AMD CPUs in general, because there are problems between the AMD SATA drivers and Samsung SSD drives, which I have in my current rig. This is why I want to stick with a intel build. Is this advisable? Thanks.
I only find a few mentions of an issue between the two. But Samsung SSD and AMD CPU are popular with enthusiasts. If it was a widespread issue. I'd expect many more posts on the subject. Some say it is only an issue if you use Rapid in Samsung Magician. Another says it is only with the 2015 AMD drivers as they use the native Microsoft AHCI SATA driver now.

At any rate. Since you already have an SSD this is the closest I could get to the AMD build using Intel parts. Although the CPU cooler is vastly superior.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($198.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Macho Direct 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB Challenger D OC Video Card ($273.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Metallic Gear Neo Air ATX ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $886.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-22 10:06 EDT-0400
 

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I only find a few mentions of an issue between the two. But Samsung SSD and AMD CPU are popular with enthusiasts. If it was a widespread issue. I'd expect many more posts on the subject. Some say it is only an issue if you use Rapid in Samsung Magician. Another says it is only with the 2015 AMD drivers as they use the native Microsoft AHCI SATA driver now.

At any rate. Since you already have an SSD this is the closest I could get to the AMD build using Intel parts. Although the CPU cooler is vastly superior.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($198.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Macho Direct 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB Challenger D OC Video Card ($273.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Metallic Gear Neo Air ATX ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $886.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-22 10:06 EDT-0400
Ok. I'll look into the AMD and Samsung SSD issues further. And thank you for the updated parts list. Greatly appreciated. I'll tweak it if needed (I was looking for an i7). Thanks again. :)
 
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If you can't go above 350for the cpu alone, then an i7 is not feasible. Even the 8700k still sells new for more than that, used is close. The 9700k is selling for about 380 currently. Any 8th or 9th gen k chip will need a z series board to take full advantage. Z370 boards are getting more expensive, and z390boards are holding value.

I would definitely look further into the amd/Samsung issue to see if its resolved. Or if it has a fix. The amd build listed above will be much more efficient in terms of price to performance.
 

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Thanks for the parts list. Much appreciated. But, I want to stay away from Ryzen and AMD CPUs in general, because there are problems between the AMD SATA drivers and Samsung SSD drives, which I have in my current rig. This is why I want to stick with a intel build. Is this advisable? Thanks.

I don't have issues with Samsung SSD's and AMD x570 chipset.
 

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If you can't go above 350for the cpu alone, then an i7 is not feasible. Even the 8700k still sells new for more than that, used is close. The 9700k is selling for about 380 currently. Any 8th or 9th gen k chip will need a z series board to take full advantage. Z370 boards are getting more expensive, and z390boards are holding value.

I would definitely look further into the amd/Samsung issue to see if its resolved. Or if it has a fix. The amd build listed above will be much more efficient in terms of price to performance.
Thanks for this. I am willing to adjust my budget for a 9th or 8th Gen i7. I'll reconsider the AMD buid too. Thanks.

I don't have issues with Samsung SSD's and AMD x570 chipset.
Thanks for letting me know. It seems like they may have resolved the issues.
 

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A lot of those sales of 10th Gen aren't actual sales, they are pre-orders or sales with delayed shipping. What you see is just the web site being lazy, by the time the cpus release, they don't have to change the page or its wording. Just the shipping dates.
 

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A lot of those sales of 10th Gen aren't actual sales, they are pre-orders or sales with delayed shipping. What you see is just the web site being lazy, by the time the cpus release, they don't have to change the page or its wording. Just the shipping dates.
I was actually scratching my head when those listings didn't mention "pre-order", but your explanation clears it up. Thanks.
 

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