Question Connecting a Smart TV in one room to a PC in another room ?

[Eamonn100]

I have wired ethernet cable in all rooms of my house running to an 8 Port Gigabit Ethernet Unmanaged Switch beside the router.

I want to have my PC in the one of the rooms "Games room" and still be able to access it in my living room (or any of the other rooms) with a Smart TV.

System specs of the games room PC... are in my post signature.


Smart TV specs in the living room and/or other rooms...
Audio
Audio Output 2 x 10W
Dolby Audio Yes

Connectivity
Bluetooth Yes
Bluetooth Version 5.0
Ethernet (RJ45) Yes
USB Media Playback Yes
USB Media Playback Formats JPG, JPEG, PNG, BMP, MP3, DD, DD+, AAC, MPG, MPEG4, H.265 & VP9 4K@60P
Wi-Fi Yes
Wi-Fi Protocols 2.4GHz

Dimensions
Distance Between Legs 1231.8mm
Stand Screw Size M4 x 20mm
VESA Wall Mount Pattern 200 x 200mm
Wall Mount Screw Size 4 x 10mm (M6)
Weight 16.8kg
With Stand 1239 x 274 x 778.5mm
Without Stand 1239 x 89 x 715.6mm

Display
Brightness 280cd/m²
Colours Typical: 72%
Computer Supported Resolutions 640 x 480 @60Hz, 800 x 600 @60Hz, 1024 x 768 @60Hz, 1360 x 768 @60Hz, 1920 x 1080 @60Hz & 3840 x 2160 @ 60Hz
Contrast Ratio 5000:1
Display Size 55"
Dolby Vision Yes
HDR Yes
Native Aspect Ratio 16:9
Refresh Rate 60Hz
Resolution 3840 x 2160
Response Time 6.5ms
Viewing Angle 170° (H) / 170° (V)

Features
TV Features Netflix, Chromecast, Google Assistant, YouTube & One Touch Access
TV Resolution 4K UHD
TV Type LED

General
Storage Capacity 8GB

Inputs
Composite (AV) 1
HDCP Yes
HDMI 1 x 1.4 | 1 x 2.0
HDMI-ARC Yes
HDMI-CEC Yes
USB 2.0 2

Outputs
3.5mm Stereo Audio Yes
Optical Audio Out 1

Performance
CPU ARM CA55 Quad-core with TEE 1.2GHz
GPU Mali 470 MP3
OS Android TV
OS Version 11
RAM 1.5GB

Power
Average Consumption 82W
Energy Consumption 302kWh per year
Energy Star Rating 5.5 Star
Standby Consumption < 0.5W
Tuning And Signal
Tuner Type DVB-T, 75Ω

How do I go about this?

 

[Ralston18]

The requirement being that the PC in the Game Room sends its' output display to some designated TV in another room?

And you select which TV via its' applicable IP address?

Update your post to include full system specs regarding the Games room PC along with the Smart TV specs in the varying other rooms.

Do those smart TV's have configurable IP addresses/subnet masks?

Overall, as I understand the requirement, the objective is to send some iGPU or GPU outpt to a specific TV via an IP address.

Is that correct?

 

[Eamonn100]

The requirement being that the PC in the Game Room sends its' output display to some designated TV in another room?

And you select which TV via its' applicable IP address?

Update your post to include full system specs regarding the Games room PC along with the Smart TV specs in the varying other rooms.

Do those smart TV's have configurable IP addresses/subnet masks?

Overall, as I understand the requirement, the objective is to send some iGPU or GPU outpt to a specific TV via an IP address.

Is that correct?

"The requirement being that the PC in the Game Room sends its' output display to some designated TV in another room?"
Yes. The TV in the living room for example... or even any other room with the wired ethernet port in the wall.

"And you select which TV via its' applicable IP address?"
Would this be the best way to do it?

"Do those smart TV's have configurable IP addresses/subnet masks?
Where would I find this out?

"Overall, as I understand the requirement, the objective is to send some iGPU or GPU outpt to a specific TV via an IP address.
Is that correct?"
Is that the best way to do it with the wired ethernet ports in the wall?


Image 1 is of the ethernet socket in the living room.

Image 2 is of the ethernet socket in the games room/bedroom. (All other rooms have the same port as in image 2. Only the living room has the added HMDI port included).

 

[Ralston18]

There may be a number of options available.

FYI:

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/stream-video-tv-pc-mac-phone,news-18335.html

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/smartbuyer/over-easy/5-ways-stream-pc-tv-digital-display/

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/c...st_way_to_stream_pc_games_on_my_tv/?rdt=61410

Use the articles to create a plan that fits your environment and overall meets your requirements.

Sketch out a diagram showing the rooms, jacks, TV's etc. Then using just one TV to start with set up a connection to each room using that TV to confirm that you can successfully stream to that location.

One way or another.....

If you have other TV's available start setting them up thereafter. Just keep notes as necessary for each room/TV.

Very likely that you will need to make some changes as you go. Be methodical and continually check and verify that when one TV is working that another has not gone out.

Any specific problems can be individually addressed and resolved as you go,

 

[Eamonn100]

The requirement being that the PC in the Game Room sends its' output display to some designated TV in another room?

And you select which TV via its' applicable IP address?

Update your post to include full system specs regarding the Games room PC along with the Smart TV specs in the varying other rooms.

Do those smart TV's have configurable IP addresses/subnet masks?

Overall, as I understand the requirement, the objective is to send some iGPU or GPU outpt to a specific TV via an IP address.

Is that correct?

There may be a number of options available.

FYI:

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/stream-video-tv-pc-mac-phone,news-18335.html

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/smartbuyer/over-easy/5-ways-stream-pc-tv-digital-display/

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/c...st_way_to_stream_pc_games_on_my_tv/?rdt=61410

Use the articles to create a plan that fits your environment and overall meets your requirements.

Sketch out a diagram showing the rooms, jacks, TV's etc. Then using just one TV to start with set up a connection to each room using that TV to confirm that you can successfully stream to that location.

One way or another.....

If you have other TV's available start setting them up thereafter. Just keep notes as necessary for each room/TV.

Very likely that you will need to make some changes as you go. Be methodical and continually check and verify that when one TV is working that another has not gone out.

Any specific problems can be individually addressed and resolved as you go,

Ok, let me live with the articles your sent for the next 2 weeks, to see what I can come up with.

1 question...

Are there any devices/hardware/software to makes this work without streaming? Like a different type of "switch"... "This has come from that room, I will now send it to this other room"... or something like that?

I was going to run cables but moved into a house with ethernet in the walls so thought I could use that. It's just new to me.

 

[Eamonn100]

There may be a number of options available.

FYI:

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/stream-video-tv-pc-mac-phone,news-18335.html

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/smartbuyer/over-easy/5-ways-stream-pc-tv-digital-display/

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/c...st_way_to_stream_pc_games_on_my_tv/?rdt=61410

Use the articles to create a plan that fits your environment and overall meets your requirements.

Sketch out a diagram showing the rooms, jacks, TV's etc. Then using just one TV to start with set up a connection to each room using that TV to confirm that you can successfully stream to that location.

One way or another.....

If you have other TV's available start setting them up thereafter. Just keep notes as necessary for each room/TV.

Very likely that you will need to make some changes as you go. Be methodical and continually check and verify that when one TV is working that another has not gone out.

Any specific problems can be individually addressed and resolved as you go,

Another question...

Can the current ethernet cabling in the walls be used as the foundation for a house network? With all devices connected, etc?

 

[Deleted member 2969713]

How far away are the rooms? Monoprice has 100 ft HDMI cables you can buy. They are $60. There's also 75 ft and 60 ft cables and so on. Of course, that would only work for one TV at a time, and changing it to another would be a hassle.

Just noticed another caveat:

The 4K@60Hz maximum resolution and 18Gbps maximum bandwidth is applicable for cables up to 60 feet in length. The 75 and 100 foot versions are limited to 4K@24Hz and 10.2Gbps bandwidth.

Still, the quality and latency would be much better than streaming video via ethernet.

 

[Ralston18]

Is there any way that you can see what is printed on that cable in the walls?

Look and read carefully....

If possible take some photographs and post the photographs here via imgur (www.imgur.com).

Two reasons for asking: 1) the cable may not really be Ethernet cable and 2) even if Ethernet cable it could be substandard and/or not fully meet the necessary Ethernet specifications.

Plus there are standards and requirements ( by code) about how and where the cables can and cannot be run.

The next question is to determine if the cables are properly terminated in the wall jacks? And that involves the quality of the jacks, the termination standard being used, and the quality of the workmanship. Any testing certifications? Testing that goes beyond continuity testing...

To get some idea about it all google "how to install ethernet cable in wall" and just look at some images and videos.

Try to sketch out a diagram showing the patch panels, network cable runs, wall jacks, etc..

No immediate need to do anything: objective being to simply gain some understanding about the existing network topology.

I am also going to move this thread from Systems to Networking: more applicable category and there are some networking experts who may offer other ideas and suggestions.

 

[Eamonn100]

Is there any way that you can see what is printed on that cable in the walls?

Look and read carefully....

If possible take some photographs and post the photographs here via imgur (www.imgur.com).

Two reasons for asking: 1) the cable may not really be Ethernet cable and 2) even if Ethernet cable it could be substandard and/or not fully meet the necessary Ethernet specifications.

Plus there are standards and requirements ( by code) about how and where the cables can and cannot be run.

The next question is to determine if the cables are properly terminated in the wall jacks? And that involves the quality of the jacks, the termination standard being used, and the quality of the workmanship. Any testing certifications? Testing that goes beyond continuity testing...

To get some idea about it all google "how to install ethernet cable in wall" and just look at some images and videos.

Try to sketch out a diagram showing the patch panels, network cable runs, wall jacks, etc..

No immediate need to do anything: objective being to simply gain some understanding about the existing network topology.

I am also going to move this thread from Systems to Networking: more applicable category and there are some networking experts who may offer other ideas and suggestions.

Thanks for moving this for me... I'll get the photos and answer your question later before bed.

I even do out a paper sketch of the house and the layout of the rooms and ports so that others can best advise me.

Thanks.

 

[Eamonn100]

Is there any way that you can see what is printed on that cable in the walls?

Look and read carefully....

If possible take some photographs and post the photographs here via imgur (www.imgur.com).

Two reasons for asking: 1) the cable may not really be Ethernet cable and 2) even if Ethernet cable it could be substandard and/or not fully meet the necessary Ethernet specifications.

Plus there are standards and requirements ( by code) about how and where the cables can and cannot be run.

The next question is to determine if the cables are properly terminated in the wall jacks? And that involves the quality of the jacks, the termination standard being used, and the quality of the workmanship. Any testing certifications? Testing that goes beyond continuity testing...

To get some idea about it all google "how to install ethernet cable in wall" and just look at some images and videos.

Try to sketch out a diagram showing the patch panels, network cable runs, wall jacks, etc..

No immediate need to do anything: objective being to simply gain some understanding about the existing network topology.

I am also going to move this thread from Systems to Networking: more applicable category and there are some networking experts who may offer other ideas and suggestions.

I've had to scrape off paint and I can't turn on manual focus... so let me know if there is enough information in this image. It does say CAT 6.

If not, I will get something to gently take of paint so I can see clearly.

 

[Eamonn100]

I've had to scrape off paint and I can't turn on manual focus... so let me know if there is enough information in this image. It does say CAT 6.

If not, I will get something to gently take of paint so I can see clearly.

 

[bill001g]

The short answer is you sorta can't do this.

The huge problem is how much bandwidth is actually coming out of your video card.
Even 1080 at 30 frames is over 1.5gbit. You start using higher frame rates or higher resolutions and it goes up massively. 4k at 120hz using HDR is getting close to 35gbit.

This is why even at fairly short distances you need high end HDMI or DP port cables.

If we ignore that video signals are not actually "ethernet" even 1080 at 30 frames is still way more than than your switch can do since it is limited to 1gbit.

So why do you see people say you can do this.

1st option would be to convert the video signal to something that is not raw HDMI output. You would so something like twitch or live youtube do. They use a capture card to compress the data. They are dropping the bandwidth by over 90% in many cases so you are going to lose a lot of image quality. You are also going to introduce a lot of latency because of the time it takes to do this compression. You will see massive lag even with very simple mouse movement.
Your TV must also support direct stream over the network. It not like your tv can watch twitch streams without a app loaded for example. Your tv support things like screen mirroring or chromecast. These tend to be wireless solutions and I am not sure if it will work.

The 2nd options tends to be more sketchy. Mostly because you have lot of companies that sell devices that don't really do what they say.

What these do is use the same ethernet wires to run video over but they do not actually use ethernet. They are basically pieces of wire that just happen to also be able to run ethernet. You would need to disconnect them from any network equipment and they would have to go directly between the rooms.

Although you see all kinds of claims what doesn't make any sense is if you can actually push 35gbit of video data through some copper wire why then can you not even get 10gbit ethernet to work on the same wires.
If it was that simple why wouldn't everyone just use ethernet cables to hook their monitor to the video card rather than buy expensive HDMI cables.

I would not really trust these magic boxes you see. I strongly suspect you get what you pay for so those ones you see for $25 are not really going to work.

There are fiber based solution that appear to function, not at 4k, but you do not have fiber and the boxes are hundreds of dollars.

 

[thestryker]

There's only two ways I see this working:

1. game streaming
2. spend a lot of money wiring active HDMI cabling and probably active USB cabling as well as I don't know how you plan on controlling the PC from other rooms otherwise. You would also need HDMI and USB switches to make any of that work on a room by room basis

 

[Ralston18]

What I see is the blue Ethernet Cat 6 24 AWG which hopefully is the cable running through the walls. I cannot determine if the cable is pure copper as it should be - versus copper clad aluminum which it should not be.

However it also looks to as if of the cable was salvage - all that paint being one clue. Plus the one picture shows a clear plastic terminator without paint on it. Cable perhaps was re-terminated.

Not uncommon that wiring gets painted over but the "paint job" is really a mess.

I am not familar with the plugs and ports being shown.

And there are other cables (coax , speaker, and HDMI noted) in the mix.

All should be organized, neat, and labled.

In addition to the problems and concerns cited in Post #12 ( @bill001g ) I would consider the entire wiring runs and terminations to be suspect.

Before doing anything else work with the existing connections/paths to determine if the Ethernet connectivity and performance is as it should be. You may get Ethernet but with very degraded performance.

That holds for all the other cables mixed in with the Ethernet cables.

Map/diagram it all out, connect up some computers and other Ethernet devices (printers, NAS, cameras, Access Points, etc.) to determine what paths and connections work.

Try to find a knowledgeble family member or friend to help you out.

Overall objective simply to discover if the existing network runs etc. do indeed work and how well.

Basically test and try what ever you can.

Know what you have before going forward.

 

[Eamonn100]

What I see is the blue Ethernet Cat 6 24 AWG which hopefully is the cable running through the walls. I cannot determine if the cable is pure copper as it should be - versus copper clad aluminum which it should not be.

However it also looks to as if of the cable was salvage - all that paint being one clue. Plus the one picture shows a clear plastic terminator without paint on it. Cable perhaps was re-terminated.

Not uncommon that wiring gets painted over but the "paint job" is really a mess.

I am not familar with the plugs and ports being shown.

And there are other cables (coax , speaker, and HDMI noted) in the mix.

All should be organized, neat, and labled.

In addition to the problems and concerns cited in Post #12 ( @bill001g ) I would consider the entire wiring runs and terminations to be suspect.

Before doing anything else work with the existing connections/paths to determine if the Ethernet connectivity and performance is as it should be. You may get Ethernet but with very degraded performance.

That holds for all the other cables mixed in with the Ethernet cables.

Map/diagram it all out, connect up some computers and other Ethernet devices (printers, NAS, cameras, Access Points, etc.) to determine what paths and connections work.

Try to find a knowledgeble family member or friend to help you out.

Overall objective simply to discover if the existing network runs etc. do indeed work and how well.

Basically test and try what ever you can.

Know what you have before going forward.

"However it also looks to as if of the cable was salvage - all that paint being one clue. Plus the one picture shows a clear plastic terminator without paint on it. Cable perhaps was re-terminated.

Not uncommon that wiring gets painted over but the "paint job" is really a mess.

I am not familar with the plugs and ports being shown.

And there are other cables (coax , speaker, and HDMI noted) in the mix.

All should be organized, neat, and labled."

"In addition to the problems and concerns cited in Post #12 ( @bill001g ) I would consider the entire wiring runs and terminations to be suspect. "

Yes to all of the above... I currently live in New Zealand and it's not really a 1st world country. Bless them, they do try... but they are always drunk and/or hung over... so they are held back from 1st work operational procedures.

Anyway, I'll start at the start. I'll move the PC into the games room. At lease the living room can become a relaxing area... away from gaming and work.