[SOLVED] Considering New AMD build (w/ caveats)

[thefrobel]

Budget (including currency): $2500 USD incl shipping (Enthusiast gamer)

Country: USA (FL)

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: WOW, POE, Multi-monitor gaming / streaming, etc.

I parted this AMD build out with 2 things in mind:

1. Items were In-Stock on Newegg.

2. Items were shippable from US, CAN, or UK.


Here's what I came up with:

ITEM	DESC	QTY	Price TTL
CPU	AMD RYZEN 9 3900X 12-Core 3.8 GHz (4.6 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 105W	1	$419.99
MB	ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) ATX with PCIe 4.0, Dual M.2,	1	$189.99
RAM	G.SKILL TridentZ (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 4000 (PC4 32000)	1	$139.99
GPU	XFX RX 5700 XT THICC III ULTRA 8GB BOOST UP TO 2025 MHz GDDR6 3xDP	1	$439.99
PSU	CORSAIR RMx Series RM650x 2018 CP-9020178-NA 650W	1	$198.00
HD	SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 500GB PCIe Gen3. X4, NVMe 1.3 V-NAND	2	$205.98	($102.99 ea.)
CASE	Cooler Master HAF XB EVO - Test Bench and LAN Box with ATX Motherboard Support	1	$109.99
DISPLAY	MSI Optix MAG273R 27" Full HD 1920 x 1080 1 ms 144 Hz DP, Adaptive Sync - IPS	2	$519.98	($259.99 ea.)
STAND	Rosewill RMS-19001 Dual Desk Stand, Supports 15" - 27"	1	$29.99
ACC	ARCTIC MX-4 Thermal Paste, Carbon Based High Performance Thermal Compound	1	$14.81
ACC	DisplayPort Cable 5ft(1.5m) DP Cable- [4K@60Hz] Display Port Cable	2	$21.98	($10.99 ea.)
			$2,290.69

1st concern: MB... will that be a decent enough board to run CPU on air (Ry9 Stock fan) and get 4400ghz out of RAM kits?
- I Opted to Downgrade to 4000 kits. Will probably downclock for time being. Good enough price point where if I want to just get a better MB later, I can swap out and already have higher speed ram (assuming matching QVL certs).
Still looking into the relevance of Infinity Fabric issues.

2nd concern: GPU I haven't run Radeon in a while, but this card:$ ratio seems pretty legit when comparing against RTX 2070 Super. Or is driver suite and other stuff enough to not make it worth?
- Seems like any issues that originally plagued the 5700x's are all but gone. not seeing it worth stepping to the side for a nVidia 2070 S (+~$100, plus the increase of $200 per monitor for ones that support Gsync over Async).

3rd concern: Monitors are only DP 1.2a spec (which seems like the earliest revision that supports ATI ASync, while card is ver 1.4) Any foreseeable issues with those hardware choices?
-Reliable 3rd party source said the 1.2a spec monitors work fine w/ Async. If anyone has any other information regarding this, I'd like to know.

4th concern: better build out there for the $?
¯\(ツ)/¯

5th concern: Anything I completely missed?
-Seems to be a full build.


Thanks in Advance!

 

[Lutfij]

On the PSU end, I'd ask you to look at a 750W unit at the very least since the GPU(5700XT) can draw more power than advertised, also, if you overclock the GPU, it's going to draw more power. The RTX 2070 Super will be less power hungry.

Getting to DDR4-4000MHz might take you trial and error. To be on the safe side, I'd advise on getting DDR4-3600MHz ram kit.

If you have a PCPartPicker link perhaps we could modify it a little...? I'd go for a mitx/matx build since it takes up less space, IMHO. No aftermarket cooler...?

 

[g-unit1111]

1st concern: MB... will that be a decent enough board to run CPU on air (Ry9 Stock fan) and get 4400ghz out of RAM kits?
- I Opted to Downgrade to 4000 kits. Will probably downclock for time being. Good enough price point where if I want to just get a better MB later, I can swap out and already have higher speed ram (assuming matching QVL certs).
Still looking into the relevance of Infinity Fabric issues.

That speed is generally unachievable unless you overclock your CPU until you can't overclock it anymore. Most RAM kits don't get their advertised speeds, and on default generally run at the lowest speed that your motherboard can handle. And paying that much to get that RAM speed is kind of redundant, your money is best spent elsewhere.

As far as the motherboard goes, the B550 boards are supposed to be out next week and should support 4th gen Ryzen CPUs out of the box, and you might be able to get more board for the same amount of money you would normally be spending.

2nd concern: GPU I haven't run Radeon in a while, but this card:$ ratio seems pretty legit when comparing against RTX 2070 Super. Or is driver suite and other stuff enough to not make it worth?
- Seems like any issues that originally plagued the 5700x's are all but gone. not seeing it worth stepping to the side for a nVidia 2070 S (+~$100, plus the increase of $200 per monitor for ones that support Gsync over Async).

The 5700XT is a pretty decent card and I have a 5600XT in one of my systems. But I'd still stick with NVIDIA for gaming at any decent resolution.

3rd concern: Monitors are only DP 1.2a spec (which seems like the earliest revision that supports ATI ASync, while card is ver 1.4) Any foreseeable issues with those hardware choices?
-Reliable 3rd party source said the 1.2a spec monitors work fine w/ Async. If anyone has any other information regarding this, I'd like to know.

What's your source on that? I don't think there would be anything preventing that.

4th concern: better build out there for the $?
¯\(ツ)/¯

Here's what I would suggest:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($274.49 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($178.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($199.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card ($539.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.97 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $1722.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-12 12:20 EDT-0400

Then you can add whatever monitor, keyboard and mouse you want.

5th concern: Anything I completely missed?
-Seems to be a full build.

Only thing I would say is that the extra thermal compound is not necessary, you are wasting money there. Nothing else is really needed unless you want to add lights / RGB to it.

 

[thefrobel]

That speed is generally unachievable unless you overclock your CPU until you can't overclock it anymore. Most RAM kits don't get their advertised speeds, and on default generally run at the lowest speed that your motherboard can handle. And paying that much to get that RAM speed is kind of redundant, your money is best spent elsewhere.

As far as the motherboard goes, the B550 boards are supposed to be out next week and should support 4th gen Ryzen CPUs out of the box, and you might be able to get more board for the same amount of money you would normally be spending.



The 5700XT is a pretty decent card and I have a 5600XT in one of my systems. But I'd still stick with NVIDIA for gaming at any decent resolution.



What's your source on that? I don't think there would be anything preventing that.



Here's what I would suggest:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($274.49 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($178.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($199.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card ($539.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.97 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $1722.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-12 12:20 EDT-0400

Then you can add whatever monitor, keyboard and mouse you want.



Only thing I would say is that the extra thermal compound is not necessary, you are wasting money there. Nothing else is really needed unless you want to add lights / RGB to it.

You missed the 1st 2 points of the build prior to the parts list.