Cool Cooling: Jumping Droplets Whisk Away Hotspots In Electronics

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Giroro

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This could be the best cooling in the world, but Intel would still use a cheap thermal paste that dries out in a year, forcing you to 'upgrade' your entire platform to get a similarly performing model.
 
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But is it as cool as this novec immersion based idea that's been around for years but is usually only implemented in datacenters? No residue left on components, efficient operation, evaporates on surface e.g. radiator & falls back into tank. It'd be cool to see a desktop made with this, but smaller than the one in the vid =P. [video="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIbnl3Pj15w"][/video]
 

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The solid components of thermal paste account for 90-95% of the heat conduction - zinc oxide powder has a thermal condictivity near 50W/mK while silicone oil is only ~2W/mK. The silicone oil is only there to make application manageable and keep the fine metal oxide, graphite or other powder which does the bulk of the actual heat transfer from becoming airborne. The paste only seems "dry" because excess oil got squeezed out by thermal cycling over time but the thermal performance remains as long as the packed particle bond remains unbroken. Most of the times where people complain about sudden cooling performance loss is after swapping RAM, cleaning heatsinks, moving a PC, etc. where an impact on the PC or heatsink broke the paste bond.
 

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The first time I saw this done was with a liquid named Floristate or something like that, by some Australians who were experiencing problems running it through a coil cooled by acetone and dry ice because it kept gelling up. Problem is that the stuff cost hundreds of dollars a gallon. Later we saw that the same thing could be done with a variety of different mineral oils, even vegetable oil. That had it's own problems, but a pure transparent mineral oil seemed to work OK for a while. Like the mineral oil that is used for high vacuum pumps. I don't know how much 3m Novic costs, apparently it is a unique synthesized fluid, but I do know that there are any number of corporations that will sell you what is essentially mineral oil for huge bucks, like the fluids used to cool the old types of transformers on power poles. The ones that explode every once in a while with a beautiful deep orange fireball. I guess the problem for all such systems is cost and maintenance per performance gain. I suppose if you are the kind of person who loves to tinker around and that in itself is mostly what you enjoy, then there is all kinds of stuff you can do that doesn't really make sense for a gamer in the real world.
Personally I think this cicada wing thing is gonna be great if it happens, maybe they can nanofacture it as a matrix that is deposited right on the silicon and eliminate the need for thermal paste inside the lid, by having the lid the top of such a little chamber where this effect takes place. Then the only grease would be what you put between the lid and the heat-sink on your cooler.
And after my recent experience with a LEPA 240 all in one watercooler destroying my computer by leaking, and the ill response of Enermax, I am back to air, and this new development seems like it would work really well with air.

I found this interesting:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1209583/3m-novec-7000-group
 

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I am wondering if a number of little chambers like this could be stacked on top of each other to good effect. I also wonder why the heat generated by the CPU could not be used to power a little sterling engine which in turn could be used to help power the computer.
 

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My media PC uses immersion cooling! It's cool, but immovable. Awesome for stuff like datacenters and servers, awful for stuff like cellphones and laptops.

This solution I could see being useful on devices where energy consumption is key, namely: Laptops, tablets and phones.
 

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Scale and heat, would be my guess. Hard to make a motor that small efficient. And if it isn't efficient, it's generating heat. On top of that, the better the cooling half of the equation, the worse any heat-based generator would perform.
 
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