Cool'N'Quiet safe disable?

[Tonixtrf]

I keep getting fps drops while playing GTA IV and CS:GO. Probably some other games too, and while watching YouTube videos sometimes. someone recommended this: http://oi61.tinypic.com/nv8nwh.jpg but I don't know if it's safe? He also mentioned that it won't work without putting minimum to 100%. I want to get rid of these fps drops. 🙁
Could someone help out a bit? thanks in advance! i also have a bottleneck, i think. GPU uses 50% and cpu 50% if i remember right.
Specs:
fx-6300 3,5ghz no turbo
gtx 670 mini 2gb factory o.c
m5a78l-le
600w corsair v2 80 plus bronze

 

[13thmonkey]

disable it in bios would be safer, you cpu will run hotter when idle, make sure your'e watching your temps for a while, if it does not improve the situation then turn it back on.

 

[hwc1954]

I can't speak about a particular game, but generally speaking, Quiet n Cool is a great feature to leave enabled. It allows the CPU to throttle way back when the demands are low. You can watch it in any monitoring program like AMD Overdrive. My FX 6300 throttles from 4200 to 3000 to 1400.

I significantly cuts heat and power consumption, especially when you consider that computers spend so much time at or near idle. When running Prime 95 or rendering videos, the cores stay at the high speed (4200 in my case).

 

[hftvhftv]

We can't help you or diagnose your issue without temperature readings, get a program called HWMonitor: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html and report back to us, load and idle temps.

 

[Tonixtrf]

We can't help you or diagnose your issue without temperature readings, get a program called HWMonitor: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html and report back to us, load and idle temps.

Well, i'll post some information with cool n quiet on now.
I forgot to mention, this pc has been on for 1 day+.

No games on (browser with multiple tabs, steam, dayz commander, teamspeak 3 open)
HW: It sometimes jumps from 53 to 60C and goes back down. http://gyazo.com/0a00c0465eb4183b038a8b3bb7f4abd7
CPU-Z: http://gyazo.com/43cb571c46ecc05b03b3ff4a66f82574
sometimes core speed goes up like this for many seconds though: http://gyazo.com/664ef075ad8f837f54d3de8c51339a39 I have turbo disabled, and it does that?

DayZ mod version running (really cpu intensive game) with all of those above i mentioned are open aswell.
HW & CPU-Z: http://gyazo.com/5fb77e6deaefb7cc6320e40dad6fe150 decided to post a gif now. i still dont get it why its 3,8 ghz most of the time, when i have turbo disabled. voltage can go up to 1,450v sometimes.

 

[hwc1954]

Your CPU and CPU core temps look very high to me. I'm overclocking an FX 6300 (4200 GHz) on a similar ASUS board (M5A78L-M/USB3) and see maximum CPU socket temps of 52 to 54 degrees running Prime 95 torture tests. The only settings I have changed are:

TURBO off
CPU reference clock: 200 (the minimum)
CPU ratio: 21 (x 200 =4200)
CPU over-voltage 1.2875 (the lowest to be stable on stress tests at 4200)

I have also changed the fan profile (under POWER > HWMONITOR) to run the fans at 100% at either 50C or 60C (I'm still playing with both) and 10% at 20C. The preprogrammed fan curves don't max out the CPU fan until 70C or higher, so you aren't getting max cooling in the AMD range.

If I were you, I would set everything to AUTO in BIOS (or just go back to BIOS defaults) and figure out why your temps are so high. Start with changing the fan curve to max the fans 100% at 60C. You are running too hot for my taste. What kind of cooler do you have?

 

[Tonixtrf]

Your CPU and CPU core temps look very high to me. I'm overclocking an FX 6300 (4200 GHz) on a similar ASUS board (M5A78L-M/USB3) and see maximum CPU socket temps of 52 to 54 degrees running Prime 95 torture tests. The only settings I have changed are:

TURBO off
CPU reference clock: 200 (the minimum)
CPU ratio: 21 (x 200 =4200)
CPU over-voltage 1.2875 (the lowest to be stable on stress tests at 4200)

I have also changed the fan profile (under POWER > HWMONITOR) to run the fans at 100% at either 50C or 60C (I'm still playing with both) and 10% at 20C. The preprogrammed fan curves don't max out the CPU fan until 70C or higher, so you aren't getting max cooling in the AMD range.

If I were you, I would set everything to AUTO in BIOS (or just go back to BIOS defaults) and figure out why your temps are so high. Start with changing the fan curve to max the fans 100% at 60C. You are running too hot for my taste. What kind of cooler do you have?

Stock cooler. This pc has been on for 2 days i think.

 

[hwc1954]

I leave mine on 24/7.

With the stock cooler, I doubt you can hold CPU socket temps under 60C, but it should be able to hold them close to 60C as the CPU throttles back if necessary.

Notice that at 71C, your stock cooler fan appears to be running at 100% (3500 rpm), but at 65C, it's only running at 2800 rpm. If my FX 6300 ever hits 65 degrees, I sure want the fan at 100%.

I would try going to completely default BIOS settings and a manual fan profile of 100% at 60C and 10% at 20C. This will crank your cooler fan to the max at 60C, which you definitely want for max cooling with stock cooler. It'll be loud, but cool.

I would not turn off Quiet n Cool with the temps you are seeing.

Just for reference, here are my temps and fan speeds with an FX 6300 overclocked to 4200 GHz, this is after 15 minutes of Prime 95. 53C or 54C is the highest I ever see at the CPU socket. I have a decent aftermarket cooler, but the key is that I have it set right now for 100% speed when the CPU socket hits 50C. My fans are 2000 RPM max.

 

[Tonixtrf]

I leave mine on 24/7.

With the stock cooler, I doubt you can hold CPU socket temps under 60C, but it should be able to hold them close to 60C as the CPU throttles back if necessary.

Notice that at 71C, your stock cooler fan appears to be running at 100% (3500 rpm), but at 65C, it's only running at 2800 rpm. If my FX 6300 ever hits 65 degrees, I sure want the fan at 100%.

I would try going to completely default BIOS settings and a manual fan profile of 100% at 60C and 10% at 20C. This will crank your cooler fan to the max at 60C, which you definitely want for max cooling with stock cooler. It'll be loud, but cool.

I would not turn off Quiet n Cool with the temps you are seeing.

Just for reference, here are my temps and fan speeds with an FX 6300 overclocked to 4200 GHz, this is after 15 minutes of Prime 95. 53C or 54C is the highest I ever see at the CPU socket. I have a decent aftermarket cooler, but the key is that I have it set right now for 100% speed when the CPU socket hits 50C. My fans are 2000 RPM max.

How do I maximize my stock coolers fan speed at all times?

 

[hwc1954]

There's no need to have the CPU fan run 100% at all times. Just when the CPU is getting hot.

Reboot and hit F2 to get into BIOS setup.

Go to the POWER menu.

Select HWMONITOR.

From that menu, make sure CPU Q-FAN is enabled.

Change CPU Q-fan mode to MANUAL.

Set the high temp to 60C
Set the duty cycle to 100%
Set the low temp to 20C (it's probably grayed out and fixed)
Set the low temp duty cycle to 10%

This will set a fan speed profile of 10% fan speed when the CPU socket is at 20C (room temp) and 100% fan speed at 60C with a smooth curve in between. This would be the ideal curve for a stock cooler IMO.

If you want even more aggressive, set 50C as the high temp. Now the fan will be at 100% when the CPU socket hits 50C and will make the fan run faster at all temps below that. I don't think this will result in cooler temps with the stock cooler, because the stock cooler can't hold max temps below 60C. So you'll end up with the same temps, but more noise in day to day use. It won't hurt anything if you want to try it.

If I recall, the default setting on ASUS board is 100% fan speed at 70C. That's too high, IMO, for an AMD processor. You really don't want the CPU temp getting that high. You want to throw all your fan speed at it before it gets to 70C.

 

[Tonixtrf]

Thanks everyone for helping.
It's hard to choose the right solution, considering you all did try to help.
My fps drops seem to be a heat issue instead of cool n quiet I think...
I'll pick answer for hwc1954 this time.

 

[hftvhftv]

Re-apply your thermal paste, my stock cooler on my 8350 used to only top out on BF4 but it only reached 60C, so for sure it's a cooling problem. And HWC how are you getting 4.2 on stock voltage? It mustn't be stable and overlocking on the stock cooler is a dangerous deed.

 

[hwc1954]

Re-apply your thermal paste, my stock cooler on my 8350 used to only top out on BF4 but it only reached 60C, so for sure it's a cooling problem. And HWC how are you getting 4.2 on stock voltage? It mustn't be stable and overlocking on the stock cooler is a dangerous deed.

My FX-6300 is stable at 4.2GHz with the voltage set in BIOS at 1.2875V. Anything below that is not stable, but I've never seen a single crash or dropped "worker" core at that setting. If I leave the voltage at AUTO in BIOS instead of manually setting it to 1.2875, it runs a few degrees hotter. Presumably the AUTO setting is goosing the voltage a bit with that clock speed.

The 1.2875V manual setting is with the default AUTO load line calibration (48%, I think), so the motherboard is boosting voltage a bit to counteract voltage droop.

I'm not running the stock cooler. I don't think overclocking with the stock cooler makes much sense because the CPU is probably going to be thermally limited anyway. With the stock cooler, probably best to just let the AMD Turbo do its thing.

I haven't tried to go above 4.2 GHz. It's stable. It runs cool. Why press my luck?

 

[hftvhftv]

Re-apply your thermal paste, my stock cooler on my 8350 used to only top out on BF4 but it only reached 60C, so for sure it's a cooling problem. And HWC how are you getting 4.2 on stock voltage? It mustn't be stable and overlocking on the stock cooler is a dangerous deed.

My FX-6300 is stable at 4.2GHz with the voltage set in BIOS at 1.2875V. Anything below that is not stable, but I've never seen a single crash or dropped "worker" core at that setting. If I leave the voltage at AUTO in BIOS instead of manually setting it to 1.2875, it runs a few degrees hotter. Presumably the AUTO setting is goosing the voltage a bit with that clock speed.

The 1.2875V manual setting is with the default AUTO load line calibration (48%, I think), so the motherboard is boosting voltage a bit to counteract voltage droop.

I'm not running the stock cooler. I don't think overclocking with the stock cooler makes much sense because the CPU is probably going to be thermally limited anyway. With the stock cooler, probably best to just let the AMD Turbo do its thing.

I haven't tried to go above 4.2 GHz. It's stable. It runs cool. Why press my luck?

How is it stable if it's running below stock voltage?? Prime95 is the only way to determine if a CPU is stable. What cooler do you use too? Because 55c seems a bit high as a 212 Evo used to keep my 8350 at 50c P95 stock.

 

[hwc1954]

How is it stable if it's running below stock voltage?? Prime95 is the only way to determine if a CPU is stable. What cooler do you use too? Because 55c seems a bit high as a 212 Evo used to keep my 8350 at 50c P95 stock.

When I say stable, I mean that it runs Prime 95 indefinitely without errors, crashes, or dropped cores. When I was experimenting with slightly lower voltage settings, the first sign of instability was Core #6 stopping on Prime 95. And the system runs flawlessly on every app I use: video encoding high-def video viewing, Photoshop, etc. I don't believe that my manually set voltage of 1.2875 is lower than the default setting.

I have a small tower CPU cooler. Noctua NH-U9B SE2. It fits in a mini tower case and only uses 92 mm fans. I have two Noctua 92mm PWM fans on it, push/pull. It's quite a bit smaller than the EVO 212 with 120 mm fan.

The max of 54C or 55C is for the overclocked 4.2Ghz running Prime 95:

Here's a screen cap while running Prime 95 with the stock 3.5 Ghz and stock settings across the board in BIOS, including AMD Turbo Core turned on. Core temps are 49C. Socket temps are 48C. The CPU fans are not quite maxed out here. I have the fan curve set to run them at 100% when the CPU socket hits 50C.

 

[hftvhftv]

How is it stable if it's running below stock voltage?? Prime95 is the only way to determine if a CPU is stable. What cooler do you use too? Because 55c seems a bit high as a 212 Evo used to keep my 8350 at 50c P95 stock.

When I say stable, I mean that it runs Prime 95 indefinitely without errors, crashes, or dropped cores. When I was experimenting with slightly lower voltage settings, the first sign of instability was Core #6 stopping on Prime 95. And the system runs flawlessly on every app I use: video encoding high-def video viewing, Photoshop, etc. I don't believe that my manually set voltage of 1.2875 is lower than the default setting.

I have a small tower CPU cooler. Noctua NH-U9B SE2. It fits in a mini tower case and only uses 92 mm fans. I have two Noctua 92mm PWM fans on it, push/pull. It's quite a bit smaller than the EVO 212 with 120 mm fan.

The max of 54C or 55C is for the overclocked 4.2Ghz running Prime 95:

Here's a screen cap while running Prime 95 with the stock 3.5 Ghz and stock settings across the board in BIOS, including AMD Turbo Core turned on. Core temps are 49C. Socket temps are 48C. The CPU fans are not quite maxed out here. I have the fan curve set to run them at 100% when the CPU socket hits 50C.

Baller.