News Core Core i5-14600 and Core i3-14100 Geekbenched and Specs Leaked

[Admin]

Specifications and performance gains of Intel's inexpensive Raptor Lake Refresh CPUs revealed in a leak.

Core Core i5-14600 and Core i3-14100 Geekbenched and Specs Leaked : Read more

 

[Order 66]

I feel like it is about time for the i3 to get 6 cores, because the next step up from the i3 13100 is the i5 13400. quite the difference in cores 4 vs 10.

 

[JamesJones44]

I find it interesting that the 14600 has a 100MHz slower clock on boost but still manages small performance gains. The K serious didn't show much of any IPC improvements. Is there a typo or is there some other difference in these parts (larger cache)?

 

[bit_user]

I think it would've been interesting for Intel to have released an unlocked CPU with the 6P + 0E die. I was hoping for a Gen 13 or Gen 14 refresh of it, as well, since it could help us appreciate the impact of the additional ring bus stops, on the bigger dies. I guess they're walking away from that smaller die and just using binning of the big-die CPUs for the low-end SKUs.

 

[bit_user]

I find it interesting that the 14600 has a 100MHz slower clock on boost but still manages small performance gains.

If they made it by disabling cores on a big die, then it'd be faster due to the larger L2 caches & other improvements from Raptor Lake. The i3-13100 still uses the same silicon as the i3-12100, I'm pretty sure.

As for why clocks were reduced, maybe that was necessary for them to stay within the power budget, using a big Raptor Lake die.

 

[Devoteicon]

I feel like it is about time for the i3 to get 6 cores, because the next step up from the i3 13100 is the i5 13400. quite the difference in cores 4 vs 10.

Or just retire it all together.

 

[Order 66]

Or just retire it all together.

Why would they retire the i3? They would give up that segment of the market to the Ryzen 3.

 

[Eximo]

I rather like my 12100F, makes a nice quiet living room PC.

I want a socketable Oops! All E-Cores CPU™ for the desktop. But so far only on the server for both Intel and AMD.

Also that short-lived 1P core 4E core mobile chip.

 

[bit_user]

I want a socketable Oops! All E-Cores CPU™ for the desktop.

Socketable because why? Are you dissatisfied with the I/O of Alder Lake-N? You can get it on a mini-ITX and I think even micro-ATX board!

I guess another disadvantage of BGA is the lack of a standard heatsink mount. I had to rig something ad hoc, for my ASRock Gemini Lake-R board.

 

[Eximo]

Socketable because why? Are you dissatisfied with the I/O of Alder Lake-N? You can get it on a mini-ITX and I think even micro-ATX board!

I guess another disadvantage of BGA is the lack of a standard heatsink mount. I had to rig something ad hoc, for my ASRock Gemini Lake-R board.

Mostly so I don't have to toss the board when it starts to show its age. But I also like to run discrete GPUs so I can upgrade the display outputs as things change.

The market is probably too small for it to happen.

 

[bit_user]

Mostly so I don't have to toss the board when it starts to show its age. But I also like to run discrete GPUs so I can upgrade the display outputs as things change.

If the board is cheap enough, you won't mind tossing it (price-wise, at least).

The SoC only has x9 PCIe 3.0 lanes, total. So, the practical upshot of that is you're unlikely to get more than x4 PCIe lanes for the GPU. That would also come at the expense of lanes for the M.2 slot.

If you really want a cheap, low-ish power socketed system, then consider a i3-12100F. It's 4c/8t @ 58W and Newegg has them for $95. You can cut power considerably by reducing the max frequency in software. It shouldn't be much trouble to get it down around 35 W. Going much lower wouldn't seem to make sense when you're running a dGPU.

 

[TerryLaze]

You can cut power considerably by reducing the max frequency in software. It shouldn't be much trouble to get it down around 35 W. Going much lower wouldn't seem to make sense when you're running a dGPU.

Cutting frequency will cut performance far more often than it has to, clamping the power to 35W will let the CPU run at full frequency whenever it can do so at or under 35W.
Goes for any CPU including ryzen.

 

[Eximo]

If the board is cheap enough, you won't mind tossing it (price-wise, at least).

The SoC only has x9 PCIe 3.0 lanes, total. So, the practical upshot of that is you're unlikely to get more than x4 PCIe lanes for the GPU. That would also come at the expense of lanes for the M.2 slot.

If you really want a cheap, low-ish power socketed system, then consider a i3-12100F. It's 4c/8t @ 58W and Newegg has them for $95. You can cut power considerably by reducing the max frequency in software. It shouldn't be much trouble to get it down around 35 W. Going much lower wouldn't seem to make sense when you're running a dGPU.

I have one. i3-12100F with an AsRock A380, Z690 board too for future CPUs to drop in. I believe I paid $99, but it was a while ago. Just had to coincide with a good motherboard deal.

Maybe a 14700k in its future in a few years when something else peaks my interest. Can always shuffle it off to my nephews.

I do like to purchase tiny computers though. Might get myself an AMD Z1 based system at some point.

 

[Order 66]

I have one. i3-12100F with an AsRock A380, Z690 board too for future CPUs to drop in. I believe I paid $99, but it was a while ago. Just had to coincide with a good motherboard deal.

Maybe a 14700k in its future in a few years when something else peaks my interest. Can always shuffle it off to my nephews.

I do like to purchase tiny computers though. Might get myself an AMD Z1 based system at some point.

probably would want to go with the Z1 extreme if you plan on gaming.