News Core i5-12400 Gets Within Sniffing Distance of AMD's Ryzen 5 5600X In Adobe Premiere

[Admin]

Hardware leaker Tum_Apisak dug up Adobe Premiere benchmarks for Intel's unreleased Core i5-12400.

Core i5-12400 Gets Within Sniffing Distance of AMD's Ryzen 5 5600X In Adobe Premiere : Read more

 

[Why_Me]

This is good news for Intel seeing how the 12400F is supposed to retail for $200 while the 5600x is going for $300 atm. Pair that up with a B660 board and a cheap set of 3200mhz RAM and you're good to go.

 

[watzupken]

Given how Intel is using E-cores to bump up the core count on their Alder Lake lineup, I feel AMD can only lower the price for each model to compete. So the Ryzen 5 should be the budget series, since AMD do not have a lower end model (other than the APU) to compete. Likewise, to fend off i5 12600 and 12700, they need to drop the Ryzen 7 5800X and 5900X to be close to the price range. From a single core perspective, the Golden Cove core is a step up from AMD's Zen 3 at this point, even though it does consume more power to get there. So in this case, I feel if AMD is able to introduce a Ryzen 5 5600 at a price range that matches the 12400, then it is still going to be very good value proposition. After all, the cost of a new Intel motherboard, cooler and potentially ram is going to make the "budget" CPUs not so budget in my opinion. There will be budget chipset from Intel, but that is rumoured to arrive only next year. And even a budget motherboard from Intel generally cost more than one from AMD, without compromising on performance.

 

[escksu]

AMD will have to drop its price drastically to compete. 5600x can no longer compete with 12 gen Intel anymore. Only advantage AMD has is alderlake boards are lacking and extremely expensive. However, this will imprvoe over time.

And then, the Vcache from AMD, may not be even enough. HAving a bigger cache is cannot really overcome the core deficiencies.

 

[spentshells]

I have not bought an AMD CPU since the 1800+.
I'll fix this headline.
Intel produces a 3rd consecutive inferior midrange product line.

 

[mitch074]

AMD will have to drop its price drastically to compete. 5600x can no longer compete with 12 gen Intel anymore. Only advantage AMD has is alderlake boards are lacking and extremely expensive. However, this will imprvoe over time.

And then, the Vcache from AMD, may not be even enough. HAving a bigger cache is cannot really overcome the core deficiencies.

Zen 3 isn't inefficient - it's actually starved for bandwidth, if tripling the L3 cache can improve overall performance by 15%. As for "can't compete", it actually can - it's a one year old architecture VS one that just came out, and their performance are almost equivalent. Give it some L3 cache, and it can compete with Intel's latest and greatest.
Remember that AMD used to sell their 6-cores Ryzen around 170 to 250 bucks not so long ago - they can still do that, and still make a profit. But, why would they do that when they're still selling everything they make? Heck, the main reason the Ryzen 3 line ended was because they didn't have enough defective chips to sell as 4-core processors! The 7nm Zen2-based 3100 and 3300X are almost impossible to find because they made so few of them.
If Intel really is a threat to AMD, with AMD's chips staying in stock more than a couple days in December, I wouldn't be surprised to see either the 5600X or the 5600G fall under $200, and/or a "Zen3D" processor coming out (5650?) for $300 that would still conquer the mid-range CPU market.
But, until the shortage resolves itself (either with Intel suddenly gaining back all the lost market share they lost these past 4 years or AMD suddenly able to push out more chips out of TSMC's factories), I don't see processor prices falling down that much - platform costs are still slightly in AMD's favor here.
All this, without even mentioning Zen 4.

 

[salgado18]

Windows 11 does give Alder Lake a nice performance boost in some workloads.

Wait, the i5-12400 has 6 P-cores and no E-cores, so why does Windows 11 make a difference? Isn't the scheduler the only factor of W11 versus W10 for Alder Lake?

 

[wifiburger]

honestly the 12900 or 12900F + B660 motherboard might end up the cheapest option for a 16core;
I can't believe Intel is the budget friendly option right now.

 

[logainofhades]

Zen3 prices since Day1 are pure garbage; also only 4 products are available vs the past with more choices

I think AMD needs to drop prices now on Zen3 and Zen 3d.

With B550 & non-K cpus coming from Intel I think people will just switch over instead of waiting for AMD.

Yet they couldn't hardly keep them in stock anywhere, other than maybe Microcenter. Zen 3 was able to command higher prices, because it was top dog, at the time, while Intel was forced to lower prices. AMD does need to drop prices, and some places already are. Microcenter has. https://www.microcenter.com/search/...4294966995+4294819840&NTK=all&sortby=pricelow

 

[Why_Me]

I have not bought an AMD CPU since the 1800+.
I'll fix this headline.
Intel produces a 3rd consecutive inferior midrange product line.

The cpu used was an engineering sample purchased off of ebay.

https://www.techpowerup.com/288978/...ace-on-ebay-riddled-with-compatibility-issues
Intel Core i5-12400 Engineering Samples Surface on eBay, Riddled with Compatibility Issues

 

[salgado18]

honestly the 12900 or 12900F + B550 motherboard might end up the cheapest option for a 16core;
I can't believe Intel is the budget friendly option right now.

You used 16 core and budget friendly in the same sentence, something is not right 😉

5950x with A320 is probably cheaper than that, but will you save on VRM when buying a 16 core CPU? Same goes for Intel.

You mean the 12400F, right? If it's priced against the 3600 with the performance of the 5600x, that could be the best bang for buck IF there are cheaper boards. Remember, you can now pair a 5600x with an A320 for a very cheap and fast combo.

 

[wifiburger]

You used 16 core and budget friendly in the same sentence, something is not right 😉

5950x with A320 is probably cheaper than that, but will you save on VRM when buying a 16 core CPU? Same goes for Intel.

You mean the 12400F, right? If it's priced against the 3600 with the performance of the 5600x, that could be the best bang for buck IF there are cheaper boards. Remember, you can now pair a 5600x with an A320 for a very cheap and fast combo.

already have x570 Master board with a 3900x; I just find 5950x overpriced and it's already past it's prime (1year old)

that's why I mentioned 12900F, should be 100$ off the existing price 12900k
we could be looking at around 500$ for 16 core cpu

 

[Why_Me]

You used 16 core and budget friendly in the same sentence, something is not right 😉

5950x with A320 is probably cheaper than that, but will you save on VRM when buying a 16 core CPU? Same goes for Intel.

You mean the 12400F, right? If it's priced against the 3600 with the performance of the 5600x, that could be the best bang for buck IF there are cheaper boards. Remember, you can now pair a 5600x with an A320 for a very cheap and fast combo.

For gamers it's a no brainer.

https://www.calhountech.com/products/intel-cm8070804497016-intel-i5-11400f-4-4ghz-w-o-graphics.html
Intel Core i5-11400F $207.90

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-5600x/p/N82E16819113666
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X $299.00

Reviews of that cpu with benchmarks.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/intel-core-i5-11400f-processor-review,1.html

Intel Core i5-11400F Review - The Best Rocket Lake

The Core i5-11400F is Intel's most affordable Rocket Lake processor. While its multiplier is locked, you can still adjust the power limit. Once we did that, the CPU ran over 15% faster and almost matched the Core i5-11600K. We also made an interesting discovery regarding Gear 1 vs. Gear 2.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[bigdragon]

Having Intel significantly undercut AMD's pricing for similar performance is a win for consumers. Given the sky-high price of GPUs, saving money on a CPU without a major impact to performance is wonderful.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

Why are people surprised at the performance? The $262 11600K was only 8% slower than the $300 5600X in 1920x1080 games, 3% slower at 2560x1440 games, and was 3% faster in single and multithread performance per TomsHardware's review. Does anyone really think Intel couldn't close the gap to at least par in a generation?