Core2 Quad Q8200 high temps?

[Red_Owl]

Well here's the drill, i had this CPU for like 3 years or so before that i had a Core2 Duo E5500 i wasn't checking temps on that cpu cause i wasn't caring much, but right now i am on my Q8200 cause i remember when i checked the temps before a year when i changed the thermal paste on it and so on i was checking on it daily for a week and the temps were like low 40s when idle and mid 50s when gaming on it, and now my room is kinda hot and my cpu shouldn't be getting like over its limit right? it even reached like 74 and TJMax was like 71 and im scared whenever i open Chrome 2 tabs or more than 2 the temps from 50 idle ramp up to 65 and 70s while the cpu usage is like 30ish percent or so i know that it shouldn't get that hot but what could it be? is it possible the fan to reached its limit of life? cause thats the same fan that i had back on C2D cpu and its basic INTEL Cooler. Should i change the Thermal Paste again, is the cpu life limit reached? if so i should just move on to new build as i was planning to get a Xeon x3460 asap?

Here are the temps when i open more than 5 tabs in chrome and the usage is normal cause it stabilizes after that it goes around to 40ish percent:

 

[FauxisFox]

Actually, you may have put too much thermal paste on your CPU. How did you apply it? You want to put as little as possible because thermal paste is actually an INSULATOR, not a conductor. It's purpose is to be a better thermal conductor than air between metal, but not as thermally conductive as pure metal.

UPDATE: You're utilizing almost 100 percent of the CPU. That easily explains the high temps, though 74 degrees is a little high. However, most Core 2 cpus can actually handle higher than 71 degrees for the cores and won't sustain long term damage until around 90-100 degrees celcius, so you should be safe for now. My real concern is your CPU utilization. Why is it so high? What are you doing? It is possible that it is Chrome itself: Chrome has not been very efficient in a very long time. I would recommend testing your CPU with other browsers like Opera and Microsoft Edge to see if it's Chrome or something else.

 

[Red_Owl]

Actually, you may have put too much thermal paste on your CPU. How did you apply it? You want to put as little as possible because thermal paste is actually an INSULATOR, not a conductor. It's purpose is to be a better thermal conductor than air between metal, but not as thermally conductive as pure metal.

I bought like a small syringe that is for 1 use only kind of a thermal paste and i've put it all cause it wasn't as much tbh and i've spread it all over the cpu while watching not to leak on the sides and i've heard that it's good to be spread over the cpu cause it will provide better transmittion of heat spreading tbh i haven't had this problem since this summer started is it possible to be due to the high temperature in my room cause its like 28c-30c in my room rn i think? p.s. the thermal paste wasn't high quality cause i have changed thermal pastes before and this one was chinese one if im not wrong cause i was in a hurry and i bought it fastly and that's only one that they had in the shop in that time

 

[FauxisFox]

Actually, you may have put too much thermal paste on your CPU. How did you apply it? You want to put as little as possible because thermal paste is actually an INSULATOR, not a conductor. It's purpose is to be a better thermal conductor than air between metal, but not as thermally conductive as pure metal.

I bought like a small syringe that is for 1 use only kind of a thermal paste and i've put it all cause it wasn't as much tbh and i've spread it all over the cpu while watching not to leak on the sides and i've heard that it's good to be spread over the cpu cause it will provide better transmittion of heat spreading tbh i haven't had this problem since this summer started is it possible to be due to the high temperature in my room cause its like 28c-30c in my room rn i think? p.s. the thermal paste wasn't high quality cause i have changed thermal pastes before and this one was chinese one if im not wrong cause i was in a hurry and i bought it fastly and that's only one that they had in the shop in that time

First of all, a small tube should last for at least 10-20 applications, if it was at least a 4 ounce tube (usually the smallest they come in) and of decent quality. It ain't peanut butter; you put way too much. For CPUs, I really don't recommend using the apply and spread-with-an-old-credit-card method. I recommend the rice-grain method; a rice grain sized dot in the center of the CPU die. The high application pressure of the heatsink will do the spreading work better than the average human. I live in the American South, (Summer is usually a humid 28 to 30 degrees Celsius), and my FX-8350 idles at 30-35 degrees Celsius and under load at 50-60 degrees Celsius. Your temps are too high, even for a stock cooler in your environment. You may have to wipe the thermal grease all off with alcohol wipes (or a preferably non-lint/dusty material) and reapply with a new tube. Remember! A. Very. Small. Dot. You should be able to keep the paste for many future builds (it should last many applications).

 

[Red_Owl]

Actually, you may have put too much thermal paste on your CPU. How did you apply it? You want to put as little as possible because thermal paste is actually an INSULATOR, not a conductor. It's purpose is to be a better thermal conductor than air between metal, but not as thermally conductive as pure metal.

I bought like a small syringe that is for 1 use only kind of a thermal paste and i've put it all cause it wasn't as much tbh and i've spread it all over the cpu while watching not to leak on the sides and i've heard that it's good to be spread over the cpu cause it will provide better transmittion of heat spreading tbh i haven't had this problem since this summer started is it possible to be due to the high temperature in my room cause its like 28c-30c in my room rn i think? p.s. the thermal paste wasn't high quality cause i have changed thermal pastes before and this one was chinese one if im not wrong cause i was in a hurry and i bought it fastly and that's only one that they had in the shop in that time

First of all, a small tube should last for at least 10-20 applications, if it was at least a 4 ounce tube (usually the smallest they come in) and of decent quality. It ain't peanut butter; you put way too much. For CPUs, I really don't recommend using the apply and spread-with-an-old-credit-card method. I recommend the rice-grain method; a rice grain sized dot in the center of the CPU die. The high application pressure of the heatsink will do the spreading work better than the average human. I live in the American South, (Summer is usually a humid 28 to 30 degrees Celsius), and my FX-8350 idles at 30-35 degrees Celsius and under load at 50-60 degrees Celsius. Your temps are too high, even for a stock cooler in your environment. You may have to wipe the thermal grease all off with alcohol wipes (or a preferably non-lint/dusty material) and reapply with a new tube. Remember! A. Very. Small. Dot. You should be able to keep the paste for many future builds (it should last many applications).

I'll try your method asap and see if that helps btw the stock cooler is at 95% and tbh it runs the same on 50% and 95% that kinda made makes me wonder that it might be the cooler too i'll try another cooler from a friend of mine and see if that makes things better too! p.s. i'll keep the thread going on untill i try your solution.. changing the TP

p.s. the syringe was like 1g or maybe even less if dont recall wrongly, cause it was REALLY tiny and small!

 

[Red_Owl]

It might be the cooler itself on this one since i changed the TCP and it kinda helped abit, the temps when i open chrome now are like 55 max before it was ramping up to 65c, but still i reach 68c max on this one while i open up more tabs and some apps in the background that are heavy, maybe i should upgrade the cooling fan and put up something better than a stock CPU Cooler till i get a better cpu! p.s. i added like 0.5g of a TCP on the CPU and the CPU fan is tight which means it ain't the paste nor the tightness of the cooler it might be the cooler or maybe it might be the fact that the cpu is getting on it's back because of the age and how old it is actually.

 

[FauxisFox]

68 degrees Celsius is pretty normal for that cpu under load, assuming you're using the stock cooler. You did clean out the dust from the fan and heatsink right?

Also, I may be wrong, put I don't think 0.5 grams is a rice grain-sized dollop. More like a large bean?

 

[Red_Owl]

68 degrees Celsius is pretty normal for that cpu under load, assuming you're using the stock cooler. You did clean out the dust from the fan and heatsink right?

Also, I may be wrong, put I don't think 0.5 grams is a rice grain-sized dollop. More like a large bean?

I did clean out the dust and everything, to be exact the temps are okey dokey now they go up to 68 when i changed the paste but thats only when i render videos in Vegas Pro 13, but i had another problem that happened to this PC, it made a crackling noise and the PC froze and i turned it off by holding the button for booting up and than when i tried to turn it on it was making a noise like there's no ram in it you know the constant beep sound that mobos do, so i was like hey maybe one of the 2 sticks that i have died, i got 1 of them out and let the other one in and turned on pc and it worked no noises nothing, than i changed the place where the ram was like in another place and it still worked and i was like okey this stick is working, i got it out, i put in the other stick and works, i put the second stick in another slot and it works and i've put in the first ram stick in and the pc started and i know that crackling loud noise isn't normal and i know this is an old setup but i care about electronics and i do wanna find out whats the problem with the noise... what was it to be exact, as of now there's no noise and i wouldn't want the noise to be back any time soon especially when i want to trade this pc setup for another system with LGA1156? p.s. the noise wasn't coming through my speakers i think it was from the PC itself... Any idea what might the problem be? and should i start a new thread about it?