Correct Powersupply?

padlius · Apr 4, 2009

Hello every1 im building a machine and buying it 2morrow, so will this machine will have enough power itself? Coz in amds site it says 600watz needed.

Here is the link:http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/Gamer_Ultra_HD_II/

And thats how I edited it.

* *BASE_PRICE: [+709]
* CAS: Coolermaster HAF 932 Full-Tower 420W Gaming Case W/ Side-panel Window [+83]
* CASUPGRADE: NONE
* CS_FAN: Maximum Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+10]
* CPU: Phenom-II 920 2.8GHz Quad-Core CPU, 45nm w/HyperTransport Technology, 8MB Cache ***Overclockable XXX***
* CD: SONY DUAL FORMAT 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
* CD2: NONE
* CABLE: None
* FLASHMEDIA: None
* FA_HDD: None
* FAN: Thermaltake Blue Orb II CPU Cooler ***Overclockable S&S Dual Core & AM2 only*** [+23]
* FLOPPY: NONE
* HOMEINSTALL: NONE
* HDD: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
* HDD2: NONE
* IEEE_CARD: NONE
* KEYBOARD: Logitech PS/2 Keyboard (Black)
* MOUSE: Logitech Optical PS2 Mouse (Black)
* MODEM: NONE
* MOTHERBOARD: (Socket AM2)Asus M2R32-MVP AMD 580X Crossfire Chipset DDR800 Dual PCIE SATA RAID MB w/GbLAN,USB2.0,2xIEEE1394,&7.1Audio [-9]
* MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)4GB (2x2GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (G.SKILL Value Select or Major Brand)
* MONITOR: 22" TFT Active Matrix LCD Display (22" (21.6" Viewable) WIDE 5MS TFT Active Matrix LCD Display Monitor)
* MONITOR2: NONE
* NETWORK: Edimax Gigabit 10/100/1000 NETWORK CARD PCI-Express [+31]
* OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
* OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (64-bit Edition)
* PS_VGA: NONE
* POWERSUPPLY: STANDARD CASE POWER SUPPLY ***No OverClocking Possible*** [-24]
* PRO_WIRING: None
* RUSH: RUSH!!! READY TO SHIP IN 3 BUSINESS DAYS [+65]
* SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
* SPEAKERS: NONE
* TEMP: NONE (AS SHOWN)
* TVRC: NONE
* UPS: None
* USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
* USBHD: NONE
* VIDEO: ATI Radeon HD 4890 PCI-E x16 1GB DDR5 Video Card [+95]
* VIDEO2: NONE
* VIDEO3: NONE
* WEBCAM: NONE
* WNC: NONE
* WAP: NONE
* WARRANTY: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
* _PRICE: (+983)
* _view_: detail

Will it be fine? Coz onboard power supply scares me a little.

Axeon · Apr 4, 2009

Its not going to be enough, atleast a 550W PSU for your setup with high amps on the 12v rail.

padlius · Apr 4, 2009

ok thx. So I need at least 550? And what is standard one which is included with a case?

Axeon · Apr 4, 2009

The original one is a Coolermaster 420W PSU (i think) , they make their own PSU's too. And its not always about how many watts there are as long as there are lots of amps on the 12V rail. For example if i choose a Corsair 550W PSU with 41AMPS on the 12V rail its better than a CoolMax 650W with 14AMPS x 3 Rails. Which is only 1 amp more than the Corsair even though its 100 watts more.

Axeon · Apr 4, 2009

I also reccomend Corsair PSU's they're top-notch! Here is one that would be suitable for your system.
Cosair 550W PSU SLI/ CrossFire Ready, 41AMPS on 12V Rail :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004&Tpk=corsair%20550

Proximon · Apr 4, 2009

It's probably some cheap no-name 420W PSU.

Why not build it all yourself? You can build a much faster machine with higher quality parts for under $1200:
https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=6629769
You'll need to be logged in to newegg to view the list.

Axeon · Apr 4, 2009

In CM Cases don't they use their own PSU's?

Shadow703793 · Apr 4, 2009

Proximon :

+1. Build looks good. If OP dosen't want the LCD price can be dropped to $1000. Also the OP will need an OS which should be about $80 for Vista Home Premeum x64 OEM (with promo code; assuming you get the weekly deals email).

Proximon · Apr 4, 2009

Axeon :

Not usually, and CM PSUs are not very good over all. They sell a few good ones but they are overpriced. The rest of the CM PSUs are junk.

Here is a good CM PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171032

And here is a far better Corsair PSU with better voltage regulation, better everything really:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009&Tpk=850TX

As you can see, there is generally no reason to buy one of Cooler Master's PSUs, unless they offer some exceptional sale.

Axeon · Apr 4, 2009

Yeah, those Corsairs are nice but pricey though, but its totally worth it i my opinion.

padlius · Apr 4, 2009

Im new at pcs I dont get amps. Could you explain it in more detail?

Proximon · Apr 4, 2009

All about electricity as it applies to PSUs:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3263

Power supply FAQ
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1036

rolli59 · Apr 4, 2009

May I point out the age of the motherboard.

* MOTHERBOARD: (Socket AM2)Asus M2R32-MVP AMD 580X Crossfire Chipset DDR800 Dual PCIE SATA RAID
MB

Helloworld_98 · Apr 4, 2009

that mobo won't run a AM2+ or AM3 cpu, anything below 7 series won't handle them and if they do then the HT will be downgraded by 3200mt/s

padlius · Apr 4, 2009

What are 7 series?

padlius · Apr 4, 2009

And I dont really get your message. Im new at pcs, and I dont really get you sorry cant edit my old message. So what do i need to change?

rolli59 · Apr 4, 2009

The selected motherboard is socket AM2 it has a chip set originally introduced when we still had socket 939. Your phenom II is socket AM2+ which supports higher HT and the chip sets he is referring to are AMD 740/770/790

padlius · Apr 5, 2009

ohh I get it thx. Could you check my decision? Is it right? I have changed my graphix card. And once direct x 11 will come out I will change to first X2 one. Or second one. Or Ill keep it as long as it will last to enjoy a game properly. I have a plan listen up: Once kingston will release ddr3 4gb in one stick Ill there is a possibility to get a am2+ mobo with 6 places which supports 24gb. And then Ill change processor if I feel like have to into am3 one. So what do you think? Ohh and todays options.

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* *BASE_PRICE: [+709]
* CAS: Coolermaster HAF 932 Full-Tower 420W Gaming Case W/ Side-panel Window [+83]
* CASUPGRADE: NONE
* CS_FAN: Maximum Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+10]
* CPU: Phenom-II 920 2.8GHz Quad-Core CPU, 45nm w/HyperTransport Technology, 8MB Cache ***Overclockable XXX***
* CD: SONY DUAL FORMAT 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
* CD2: NONE
* CABLE: None
* FLASHMEDIA: None
* FA_HDD: None
* FAN: Thermaltake Blue Orb II CPU Cooler ***Overclockable S&S Dual Core & AM2 only*** [+23]
* FLOPPY: NONE
* HOMEINSTALL: NONE
* HDD: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
* HDD2: NONE
* IEEE_CARD: NONE
* KEYBOARD: Logitech PS/2 Keyboard (Black)
* MOUSE: Logitech Optical PS2 Mouse (Black)
* MODEM: NONE
* MOTHERBOARD: DFI LANPARTY DK 790FXB-M2RSH AM2+ 790FX CROSSFIRE Chipset with PCIE slot DDR2/1066 SATA RAID MB w/GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394, &7.1Audio ***Overclockable XXX*** [+69]
* MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)4GB (2x2GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (G.SKILL Value Select or Major Brand)
* MONITOR: 22" TFT Active Matrix LCD Display (22" (21.6" Viewable) WIDE 5MS TFT Active Matrix LCD Display Monitor)
* MONITOR2: NONE
* NETWORK: ADDITIONAL 10/100/1000 NETWORK CARD PCI [+10]
* OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
* OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (64-bit Edition)
* PS_VGA: NONE
* POWERSUPPLY: 750 Watts Power Supplies [+78] (Corsair PSU 750W TX750W Power Supply SLI Ready)
* PRO_WIRING: None
* RUSH: RUSH!!! READY TO SHIP IN 3 BUSINESS DAYS [+65]
* SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
* SPEAKERS: NONE
* TEMP: NONE (AS SHOWN)
* TVRC: NONE
* UPS: None
* USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
* USBHD: NONE
* VIDEO: ATI Radeon HD 4650 PCI-E x16 512MB Video Card [-61]
* VIDEO2: NONE
* VIDEO3: NONE
* WEBCAM: NONE
* WNC: NONE
* WAP: NONE
* WARRANTY: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
* _PRICE: (+986)
* _view_: detail

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rolli59 · Apr 5, 2009

Am2+ only supports DDR2 but supports AM3 CPU's. I would recommend a minimum HD4670 for gaming the price difference between it and HD4650 is minimal.

rolli59 · Apr 5, 2009

by the way you do not need an additional net work card it is already on your MB

padlius · Apr 5, 2009

ohh I thought its better than MB one. And your saying that 4650 is not for gaming? Im really low on money. It does cost alot of money. Ill try to add more. How about 4650 X2?

padlius · Apr 5, 2009

I just need a gcard to play counter-strike source and cod 4. So Im not sure.

Proximon · Apr 5, 2009

4670 or 4830.

padlius · Apr 5, 2009

whould 4630 could handle the work?

rolli59 · Apr 5, 2009

I have yet to see a HD4630. If you are meaning HD4830 it is a good card. From lowest to the best.
HD4650 < HD4670 < HD4830 < HD4850 < HD4870 < HD4890

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