Question cpu and functionality

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I currently have a Intel core i5-3570 with a 3.4 ghz speed and have 16gb ram with a windows 10 and have 1.4 tb disk space. I am wanting to upgrade my system to be able to play Guild Wars 2 on high settings but feel that I may need to get a new computer. What would you recommend to upgrade what I have by getting a different computer or just upgrade other aspects/ components of what I currently have and could you list those that I could obtain?
 
Your processor ,memory and disk space is fine.
What you did not list is exact model of your power supply and age or current video card.
Or your monitor resolution.
The most important things to be able to answer your question.

from Steam



Minimum:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS *: Windows 7 (64-bit)
Processor: Intel® i3 3.4 GHz / AMD Athlon x4 3.8 GHz or better
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 680 / AMD Radeon HD 7970
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 70 GB available space
 
Making a couple of assumptions here but it seems your current rig meets the minimum requirements.

https://help.guildwars2.com/hc/en-us/articles/201862958-Minimum-System-Requirements

Don't know what your current GPU is, if you have a discrete one.

Without knowing more about your system, on that platform the best CPU that might work with it would be a 3770K. You can find those pretty inexpensive, but I wouldn't look at it like some groundbreaking update. If it were my dollar to spend, I would go with a 12th gen i3 before trying to work with an i7 of that age and other possible issues you could run into on hardware that old.
 
I currently have a Intel core i5-3570 with a 3.4 ghz speed and have 16gb ram with a windows 10 and have 1.4 tb disk space. I am wanting to upgrade my system to be able to play Guild Wars 2 on high settings but feel that I may need to get a new computer. What would you recommend to upgrade what I have by getting a different computer or just upgrade other aspects/ components of what I currently have and could you list those that I could obtain?
What country/store will you buy from?
What is your budget?


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-12100 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($121.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M DS3H DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($40.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $476.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-09 08:16 EDT-0400


This build is iGPU only, if you want to add a GPU, spend an extra $10 and buy this power supply instead: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2g...ly-modular-atx-power-supply-atx3-focus-gx-750


If you have a higher budget:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($244.85 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($151.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-750 ATX 3.0 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $982.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-09 20:29 EDT-0400



AMD version:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($276.94 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($97.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-750 ATX 3.0 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1098.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-09 20:38 EDT-0400


Slightly more expensive because it's DDR5, but the difference is negligible. This motherboard is pretty damn good, and AM5 going to be upgradeable in the future.
See, i'm not biased against AMD.


I have a 3570K system still running ok but no Win 11. Recently replaced it with a new i3 12100 PC like the sub $500 build i posed above. It's fast. Real fast.

If you don't want to spend much money, and you won't be upgrading anything for the next 5 or so years, a cheap "low end" 12th gen intel brings lot of bang for the buck. These "low end" CPUs are very strong these days.

If you want a new PC that has a little more oomph for AAA games, the AM5 Ryzen 7700 build is just cake. And it can go for another decade unless games and hardware change dramastically.
At around a thousand dollars, it's not very expensive either.
 
@35below0 , nice build suggestions.

Another aspect I would add to the i3 12100 suggestion is that (with consideration to the motherboard) this leaves a really nice update option for the future with BIOS update(s). Intel's 12th gen are under the most aggressive discounts currently. It would be somewhat expected that other versions in 13th and 14th gen will come under better deals as whatever is next for Intel releases. If you are happy staying just a touch behind the curve, a lot of value can be had here.

In relation to AM5 mentioned, AMD will be releasing another generation with AM5 support if not more. They actually just released another option for AM4 still. If you plan to keep the system for a while and want some long term support this is not a bad way to go.
 
The Gigabyte B760M DS3H DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard is not capable of handling powerful Intels. The 6+2+1 50A VRM is not going to shower itself in glory.
It's good for i3 100s and i5 400 and 500 models but it wouldn't make sense for an unlocked K series processor or any i7 700 or i9 900 to be installed into it.

It will work but those high end CPUs really need to go into high end motherboards, not budget mATX ones like the DS3H.

The good thing about it is that it isn't actively terrible like some competing motherboards. And it does have niceties like BIOS Q flash, a USB-C Gen 2 port (no 2x2 though), HDMI 2.1 !!, DP port (1.2), a heatsink for the NVMe drive, and support for up to 5333 MT/s DDR4. It's overall pretty solid.

But it also comes with gotchas and "budget" limitations. For example the PCIe x16 slot is shared with the main M.2 slot. So you can have an NVMe there or a GPU but not both.
Fortunately there is a second NVMe slot but if you plan on using a GPU, you have to lose one of only two M.2 slots :/
Budget indeed.
You also have to fiddle with the I/O shield and install it yourself.


It comes down to what you, the user needs. If you're not doing CAD or 3D modelling, rendering, high resolution video editing, then you will not feel the improvement that comes with Alder/Raptor 600, 700 and 900 CPUs. So spend your money elsewhere and pick a more appropriate and less costly CPU.

A 100 or 400 will be more than enough to daily drive browsing, shopping, movies and music, typicall home PC stuff like homework, email, and light gaming.
Throw in sound editing, less demanding video editing or programming (not AI stuff).

For those CPUs, this is a very solid motherboard. And it doesn't cost much. But you should be sure you don't need a faster CPU.
The MSi Pro is more costly, but it can handle faster CPUs. It's still a budget motherboard but it's a very good one. It also makes it possible to upgrade.

Toss a coin. People rarely upgrade CPUs, and the time window for doing such an upgrade is limited. After a certain time it's more economical to buy new.
Part of the reason "future proofing" is such folly.

Match the CPU to your needs, then match the motherboard to the CPU. Spend money on a nicer screen or quieter case, instead of future proofing 😀

In relation to AM5 mentioned, AMD will be releasing another generation with AM5 support if not more. They actually just released another option for AM4 still. If you plan to keep the system for a while and want some long term support this is not a bad way to go.
With respect to 12/13/14 gen intel builds, it's really important to find the right stuff. Some of the components are great, some ...terrible.

AM5 on the other hand, you'd still want to get everything right from the start, but you can look forward to new CPUs and new motherboards. So if you feel the need to make changes, it will be possible.

On the intel side, the next gen is not compatible with the current, and it's difficult to predict price movements for current CPUs.
I see people upgrading to a 14700K if it's price tanks. But will it?
And with motherboards, some of the ideal choices are becoming rare and difficult to obtain. Or the motherboard is great but most likely needs flashing for a 14th gen CPU. Do you recommend it? Some people fear flashing, others don't fear it at all, and screw it up.

That can also happen with AM5 but it seems to be more pronounced with LGA1700
 
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