Question CPU and Motherboard Choice

[Pcbuilder55]

So I just wanted to get your guy's opinion and recommendations on a few things. Currently I am running a Ryzen 5 3600 stock speeds with boost on a MSI Gaming Plus x570 Motherboard. I might get the chance to be able to swap out the parts soon. I just wanted to see what you guys would say I do. Stay Ryzen? if so can the this motherboard easily handle a ryzen 7 3700 or a ryzen 9 3900x. Keeping stock speeds. Not considering intel as I have a m.2 gen 4 and want to have the running at optimized speeds. So basically would I be able to keep the board and upgrade to one of those CPU's? I know that the 3900x is just better for a workstation/editing. I don't do a lot of it, just sometimes might edit a vid or two and maybe some other editing software (photoshop). But mainly its for gaming and browsing. let me know what you think. Just want to know as I will be upgrading my GPU to a 2060 super or a 5700XT and want a future-proof setup. So since I might get the chance to also upgrade CPU I'm really considering

Current Setup
Ryzen 5 3600
MSI x570 Gaming Plus Motherboard
16gb Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 3200mhz
Corsair H150i PRO AIO Cooler
RX570 8gb OC GPU

 

[j3ster]

I dont think you should upgrade your cpu just yet, since its still pretty fast but that board can handle upto 3900x just fine as far as i know.

upgrading to 3700x would also be good but tbh not necessary, you would how ever would want to consider a 2070 super or 5700 XT.

 

[Pcbuilder55]

I dont think you should upgrade your cpu just yet, since its still pretty fast but that board can handle upto 3900x just fine as far as i know.

upgrading to 3700x would also be good but tbh not necessary, you would how ever would want to consider a 2070 super or 5700 XT.

I think you might be right, I upgrade to a new GPU probably a 5700XT and maybe in a few months consider upgrading to 3700x. I know that the 2070 Super is like $100 more but would you say that it's worth it over the 5700XT? I noticed that the 5700 can run pretty hot.

 

[Karadjgne]

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MSI seems to have dropped the ball from its previous decent choices on the mid-range mobo's in the 300/400 series. While it'll handle the bigger cpus, it'll not do them justice, you'd need to move up to the really high end, like Godlike or similar, to get equitable ability to Asus and Gigabyte. Honestly I'd not put a 3900x/3950x on that board and not do much (if any) OC.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Overclocking on Zen2 seems pointless anyhow.

You don't need anything more than a 3700x for any gaming or browsing system. For browsing, a 2200G is fine. An i3 or Pentium is fine.

For gaming, the 8 cores on the 3700x will give you as much as any game can take advantage of. For most games the 3700x and 3900x have almost identical scores, and in a few, the 3700x actually scores better. It also seems to have better .1/1% 99th percentile lows too, although I'm not sure why that would be unless there is a latency issue with the 3900x architecture for some reason.

Seems to hold true on everybody's reviews. I can't see any reason to pay more and get the same thing. If you were strictly high end workstation, that would be different.

 

[DMAN999]

I would upgrade your GPU to a 2060 super or a 5700 XT and keep the 3600 for now.

I personally have a 3700x with an MSI 1660 Ti Armor OC which works Great for me at 1080p/60 Hz.
I play single player AAA games like AC: Odyssey, far Cry 5/New Dawn, etc.
My 1660 Ti / 3700x combo gives me 85 - 120+ fps with those games set to Very High or Ultra.
I upgraded to the 3700x from a 2600 (OC'd to 4 GHz) and my fps in games only increased slightly.
But I stream to multiple 1080p TV's and do Video Encoding and the 3700x makes a significant difference for those.

I just ordered an MSI RTX 2060 Super Armor OC because I had some extra cash and to be honest I don't expect to see much difference in fps in the games I play.
But if / when I upgrade to a 1440p monitor, I am hoping the 2060 Super will prove to be worth the extra cost.

 

[Pcbuilder55]

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MSI seems to have dropped the ball from its previous decent choices on the mid-range mobo's in the 300/400 series. While it'll handle the bigger cpus, it'll not do them justice, you'd need to move up to the really high end, like Godlike or similar, to get equitable ability to Asus and Gigabyte. Honestly I'd not put a 3900x/3950x on that board and not do much (if any) OC.

I've decided to not go with 3900x instead a 3700x unless you say a 3800x is worth it since its 3.9ghz instead of 3.6ghz. Now would my board easily handle the 3700x at stock speeds. Domt want to have to upgrade to a msi godlike for $600+. Unless maybe a $250-300 gigabyte or Asus. So maybe ill upgrade the board first and CPU after. Let me know your thoughts

 

[beneckejames]

i just got a 3800x with crosshair viii set multiplier to 45 and im getting a stable 4.5 that simple.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I've decided to not go with 3900x instead a 3700x unless you say a 3800x is worth it since its 3.9ghz instead of 3.6ghz. Now would my board easily handle the 3700x at stock speeds. Domt want to have to upgrade to a msi godlike for $600+. Unless maybe a $250-300 gigabyte or Asus. So maybe ill upgrade the board first and CPU after. Let me know your thoughts

You're missing the point. Spending the extra money on a 3800x or 3900x isn't going to translate as more FPS in gaming. Even going from the 2600 to the 3700x, DMAN specifically indicated that his FPS didn't increase much at all. I'm sure they increased some, because the benchmarks in reviews bear that out. What they DON'T bear out, is the idea that going from a 3700x to a 3900x is going to improve your gaming experience, because in most cases, aside from a VERY FEW games that might see any benefits from those extra cores and threads beyond the 8/16 of the 3700x, there is no increase in FPS. Even if you are doing heavy multitasking, recording, streaming, encoding, etc., there is already an abundance of cores on the 3700x to the extent that adding more does not translate into an improvement in just about anything other than synthetic benchmarks.

That could change some day, but for now, we are still, even when heavily tasked, seeing the most improvement reach a plateau when we are around the 6/12 or 8/16 threshold, in terms of seeing any benefit on a consumer machine from the addition of cores. Obviously, increasing single core perfomance, especially when there are lots of cores, always makes a difference. Because, speed/IPC.