AliEM :
Hi, i am using with 3d studio max v-ray engine for architecture modeling and rendering based on CPU - CPU BASED RENDERING ARE ALL !!! so please do not reply on the basis of GPU.
Currently I use HP Z840 with single Intel Xeon E5-2620 V3 2.4 and 64 Gb of RAM, but according to Functional the performance of the camputer it is totally a disaster. In few days I am going to have a new project Which is terribly heavier than this and even now I run all at 100 percent.
considering a really good budjet, what you are your proposal for CPU and RAM, plus a good motherboard.
Anyone can compare Intel and AMD???
AliEM,
I also strongly prefer CPU rendering.
In my view, the z840 has very good performance potential. The problem is in the specification of the E5-2620 v3 which is 6-core @ 2.4 /3.2Ghz. The Passmark CPU rating for a single E5-2620 v3 is
9965 with a Single Thread Mark of
1672 and for a pair the CPU score is
15415. These scores are not fantastic for a 6-core and an E5-1620 v3 4-core does almost as well:
9862 with a
2143 single thread rating. The system I use for 3D modeling has a single E5-1660 V2 6-core and it's CPU rating is
14046 and single threaded is
2049.
In CPU rendering, the more cores the better and the problem with z840 may well be that the computational density is low- it's not getting through calculation cycles quickly enough.
Given the time problem before having to start the new project, as the fastest, lowest cost solution, consider adding a second E5-2620 v3 to have 12 cores / 24.threads.
Or, to ensure timely progress and much better pefrormance, consider:
1. Change the single E5-2620 v3 to a pair of
Xeon E5-2640 v3 8-core @ 2.6 /3.4GHz - About $950 each US
Dual E5-2640 v3::
20824
2. Change the single E5-2620 v3 to a single
E5-2640 v4 !0-core @ 2,4 / 3.4GHz- about $950 each US
Single E5-2640 v4: 15244
Otherwise, if a replacment system project is inevitable, to make it quickly and cost effectively:
1. Purchase a used HP z820 with low specification > about $800 US
2. Add:
_ 2X Xeon E5-2690 8-core @ 2.9 / 3.8GHz > about $200 each US
_ 128GB DDR3-1600 ECC registered (PC3-12800R)
_ HP Z Turbo Drive 256GB
AHCI or Samsung SM 951 256GB (M.2 /
AHCI) on Lycom DT-120 M.2 to PCIe adapter
_ Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
_ Borrow the GPU from the z840 or otherwise Quadro M2000 4GB > about $450 US. that GPU has about the same 3D capability as the Quadro K4200 .
I did a similar project recently for my analysis /simulation /rendering system.
Purchased for $270:
HP z620 (Original) Xeon E5-1620 4-core @ 3.6 /3.8GHz) / 8GB (1X 8GB DDR3-1333) / AMD Firepro V5900 (2GB) / Seagate Barracuda 750GB + Samsung 500GB + WD 500GB
[ Passmark System Rating=
2408 / CPU=
8361 / 2D=
846 / 3D =
1613 / Mem =
1584 / Disk =
574 ] 7.13.16
And after about $1,100 in upgrades:
HP z620 (2012) (Rev 3) 2X Xeon E5-2690 (8-core @ 2.9 / 3.8GHz) / 64GB DDR3-1600 ECC reg) / Quadro K2200 (4GB) / HP Z Turbo Drive (256GB) + Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB / 800W > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > HP 2711x (27" 1980 X 1080)
[ Passmark System Rating=
5675 / CPU=
22625 / 2D=
815 / 3D =
3580 / Mem =
2522 / Disk =
12640 ] 9.25.16
[Cinebench R15: OpenGL= 115.78 fps / CPU = 2199 cb / Single core 131 cb / MP Ratio 16.84x
Notice the CPU score from the two E5-2690's that cost
$320 together is better than 2X E5-2640 v3 for nearly
$2,000. The disk score changed from
574 to
12640 for $150 and the HP Z Turbo drive is based on the SM951, but with a n optimized adapter and better cooling.
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I think building from parts that have to be researched, ordered, assembled, wired, configured, and tested will be too time-consuming, can have problems setting up and cost more for fewer cores. With the HP, you might be able to simply clone the HD to the z820 - update the BIOS.
You might consider installing the free trial of Passmark Performance Test and reporting the scores here. That could show weak or problem areas in the system that point to a problem other than the CPU.
Cheers,
BambiBoom
CAD / 3D Modeling / Graphic Design:
HP z420 (2015) (Rev 3) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) / 32GB DDR3 -1866 ECC RAM / Quadro K4200 (4GB) / Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI + Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) + Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]