Question CPU Cooler for 13600K + Thermal issues in case

[Vaampire]

My build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CZfPyK
A picture for my case: PC Case Image
My temperatures after playing Witcher 3 DX12 for around 5 hours: CPU Temps , GPU Temps (Current CPU hits 90Cand GPU Hotspot hits 105C sometimes and GPU Global hits 80C)

Hello, I'm gonna upgrade my CPU to 13600K and I want to get a suitable cooler for it without needing to under-volt it or turning off Turbo Boost in BIOS. I've kept searching for multiple CPU Coolers and I came to a conclusion that these 4 are the best ones available for me:

1. DeepCool AK620
2. DeepCool Assassin IV ( for 20 bucks more)
3. Noctua NH-D15S (Single fan) (same price as assassin)
4. Noctua NH-D15 (most expensive +will have to sell my current RAM and buy Corsair LPX due to insufficient RAM clearance)

P.s: I tried searching for Thermalright Peerless Assassin but it wasn't available for me. Also if you can suggest a better alternative for these coolers or not-so-expensive AIO liquid cooler and I will look it up.
I have provided the info above about my case and temperatures to give you an idea about how hot it gets here in Egypt and that I don't currently have and Air Conditioner in my room.
My PC case is Lian Li Lancool 2 (not mesh) I added Corsair Sickleflow 3 Fan Kit but there wasn't much difference in airflow and temperatures. My current fan setup is:
In front: 3 intake ( these are the fans that were included in the case) Top: 2 Exhaust (Sickleflow rgb) Rear: 1 Exhaust (Sickleflow rgb)
I also want some tips to help me improve the airflow and temperatures in my case as they are apparently high.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Phaaze88]

A picture for my case: PC Case Image

Anyone would give up 2 thumbs up on that.

how hot, in Egypt

Thing is, that doesn't necessarily reflect what your 2 ambients are: room and inside the case.
The main air source affects how well ANY cooler does, almost at a 1 to 1 rate - throwing out an example real quick:
Say 2 folks have the exact same setup as you now, with User A having case ambient of 22C, and User B's being 32C. User A can be expected to have cpu low and heavy load thermals 10C lower than User B's.

The downdraft cooler in your PC Case Image is influenced by case ambient, plus it gets sloppy seconds from the gpu.
The tower coolers are a mix of both case and room ambient.
AIOs... many love to top mount those, so it's mainly case ambient for them.

I also want some tips to help me improve the airflow and temperatures in my case as they are apparently high.
I don't currently have and Air Conditioner in my room.

As said earlier in my post, fan setup is 👍 👍 .
That no AC is a big red flag, and probably your primary issue. PCs are space heaters, and it's responsible for increasing your room and case ambient over those 5 hours. AC is one of the easiest means to manage that, followed by lowering gpu max power limit, although, one can only go so far with the latter before performance tanks. How much, I can't say. You'd have to do your own tests.
After that, you have to come up with some creative means using appliance fans to direct the PC's exhaust out of your room as soon as possible.
Once you've done that, cpu and gpu thermals should go down as well, and you won't even need a new cpu cooler - well, you'll have less of a reason to bother getting one, that is.

 

[geofelt]

Do not get too bothered by running a 13600K at hot temperatures.
It is designed to do so.
The actual performance impact with a less than top cooler is not that great.

Core i9-13900K Cooling Guide: Testing Intel's Flagship With Budget Air and Big AIOs

The Core i9-13900K can push even the most capable liquid coolers to their limits, but you don’t lose that much performance if you go with budget-priced air cooling.

www.tomshardware.com

Or, in video form:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFgswzTvyc

I use a NH-D15s and it is excellent.
One can add a front 120mm fan to the cooler for better cooling.
Test show perhaps a minimal 2c. difference; I will not bother with it.

It is easy to experiment with fans. the supplied front 2 140mm and 120mm rear fans is probably best.
Experiment with disabling the top fans; they may be redirecting cooling air up and out of the case before doing any good.

A pc will gradually heat up a room and reduce the pc cooling .
Absent a room a/c unit, see if you can't use a window fan to exhaust the hot room air.

 

[Vaampire]

After that, you have to come up with some creative means using appliance fans to direct the PC's exhaust out of your room as soon as possible.

I'll try removing the dust filter, also removing the Glass Side Panel of the case. Although it will increase the amount of dust entering the case so I'll have to clean it more frequently but I'll do this only throughout the summer.

Once you've done that, cpu and gpu thermals should go down as well, and you won't even need a new cpu cooler - well, you'll have less of a reason to bother getting one, that is.

I'm upgrading from 12400F to 13600K. I'm using 12400F with a stock cooler so it's not optional for me to get a cooler for 13600K as I don't have any Cooler for it.

I use a NH-D15s and it is excellent.

As expected from Noctua products. Even though, I heard that the DeepCool Assassin 4 beats the NH-D15 not just NH-D15s. What do you think about it? Is it a better option for me?

Experiment with disabling the top fans; they may be redirecting cooling air up and out of the case before doing any good.

Yeah, I thought so (as the Sickleflow has pretty high air flow and air pressure) but not entirely sure though. I might do as you say or put 1 of the top fans beneath the GPU ( hoping it will improve GPU temps also).

 

[geofelt]

When looking at cooler tests, look at the environment.
Is it an open test bed, or is it inside a case.
Coolers do better when the fans run at high rpm, but that comes at a cost of more noise.

Can you point to the link where the assassin 4 beats the NH-D15.
Not doubting you, I just like to read the details.

 

[Vaampire]

When looking at cooler tests, look at the environment.
Is it an open test bed, or is it inside a case.
Coolers do better when the fans run at high rpm, but that comes at a cost of more noise.

For me, lower temps at the cost of noise from CPU coolers isn't an issue as long as my CPU lifespan doesn't decrease.

Can you point to the link where the assassin 4 beats the NH-D15.
Not doubting you, I just like to read the details.

It's a pretty new Cooler. I couldn't even find the product in the official DeepCool website. What I could find is this comparison between DeepCool AK620 and Assassin III and D15 from Gamer Nexus where Assassin III beats D15 in noise normalized test at minute 15:33 and in 100% Fan Speed too at minute 16:35. I concluded then that the Assassin IV which is a newer version of Assassin III should be better than the D15. I also some comments about in LinusTechTips forums indicating that it might beat D15 but no one actually got his hands on one. That's all information I could get.

 

[Vaampire]

Also I found EVGA CLC 280 AIO Liquid Cooler for the same price as the D15. What do you think about it? @Phaaze88 @geofelt

 

[Phaaze88]

I'll try removing the dust filter, also removing the Glass Side Panel of the case. Although it will increase the amount of dust entering the case so I'll have to clean it more frequently but I'll do this only throughout the summer.

Doesn't fix the issue of high ambients, especially if the trend of increasing power consumption with certain parts continues.
PC raises temperature of room, room raises operating temperatures of components. It's a loop.

EVGA CLC 280 AIO Liquid Cooler

Did you check case compatibility? It only fits at the front - nothing alarming, it's just a heads up, if you didn't already check.
Cooler's been around for about 6 years though.

 

[Vaampire]

Doesn't fix the issue of high ambients, especially if the trend of increasing power consumption with certain parts continues.
PC raises temperature of room, room raises operating temperatures of components. It's a loop.

Yes, I get what you mean. I mean it won't hurt doing so I'll also try directing one of the room fans toward the case also. I might get AC soon, so by then temps won't reach that high hopefully.

Did you check case compatibility? It only fits at the front - nothing alarming, it's just a heads up, if you didn't already check.
Cooler's been around for about 6 years though.

Yes, I know. I'll have to remove the 3 front fans. Doing so, will it raise my GPU temperatures? Although it's old, from Gamer Nexus reviews it's as good as NZXT Kraken x72 and beats DeepCool Assassin 3 and D15, so What do you think?

 

[Phaaze88]

I'll also try directing one of the room fans toward the case

If you do that, it still allows the PC to saturate and heat up the room ambient, and the cycle continues.
Position it to move case exhuast directly out of your room, so it has less time to soak with the room ambient.

Yes, I know. I'll have to remove the 3 front fans. Doing so, will it raise my GPU temperatures?

Probably.

What do you think?

Well, I already mentioned my #1 concern to fix: ambients.
13600K: You've got plenty of fans already - don't really need an AIO... Deepcool AK620.

 

[Vaampire]

Position it to move case exhuast directly out of your room, so it has less time to soak with the room ambient.

I think might have a solution for this. I have a window just next to the case I'll try to use it to get rid of the hot air out of the case. I'll also try several other fixes. At last if I didn't reach good temps I might just liquid cool my GPU using kraken G12 and x63.

13600K: You've got plenty of fans already - don't really need an AIO... Deepcool AK620.

I'll just go with the Assassin IV. It has really good design and seems like a beast cooler. It also have very high RAM clearance so it won't be obstructed by my high profile RAM of 45mm.
I'll order the CPU and the cooler tomorrow morning. Thank you both for your help.