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I am moving my prebuilt pc into a new case. The fan on the cpu looks really weird and I'm not sure, but it might cover up some of the slots for stuff like gpu. Is this something I should replace if I'm on a budget?
https://ibb.co/QDZBXPb
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Yeah, I don't think you ARE doing that. That is a proprietary motherboard, and it is not going to line up with the motherboard mounting holes on any standard mATX or ATX mounting pattern in any aftermarket case. Plus, that board has a 14 pin ATX connector, so unless you have researched and found that there is an adapter to go to the Lenovo 14 pin ATX power from a standard ATX 24 pin connector, you're out of luck there too.

It's possible to mod a case to fit with the standoffs holes on that motherboard, but the PSU issue and the fact that the I/O panel on the back of that board is not going to line up with any case except the one it came is an unresolvable issue unless you plan to cut out the whole back of the case to make the I/O and PCI slot alignment not matter. Honestly, I wouldn't bother. If you have a CPU and memory you want to reuse, just get a different motherboard.

The CPU cooler is the least of your issues.
 
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Darkbreeze said:
Yeah, I don't think you ARE doing that. That is a proprietary motherboard, and it is not going to line up with the motherboard mounting holes on any standard mATX or ATX mounting pattern in any aftermarket case. Plus, that board has a 14 pin ATX connector, so unless you have researched and found that there is an adapter to go to the Lenovo 14 pin ATX power from a standard ATX 24 pin connector, you're out of luck there too.

It's possible to mod a case to fit with the standoffs holes on that motherboard, but the PSU issue and the fact that the I/O panel on the back of that board is not going to line up with any case except the one it came is an unresolvable issue unless you plan to cut out the whole back of the case to make the I/O and PCI slot alignment not matter. Honestly, I wouldn't bother. If you have a CPU and memory you want to reuse, just get a different motherboard.?

The CPU cooler is the least of your issues.
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Hello again (you have helped me before lol). First off, I asked around quite a bit and everyone was off the opinion that the mobo will fit a matx case. Hopefully it will since the case is in the mail! Second, your right about the 14 pin issue. There are fairly cheap 20 to 14 pin adapters on Amazon made specifically for this mobo. Lastly, I did some reading on the i/o sheild and from what I read they are pretty much universal. Is that not correct? I'm sure you know your stuff this just comes as bad news too me so I want to be sure. Thanks again!
 
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For aftermarket motherboards, yes, the I/O panels for most of them are exactly the same. They are a "standard", rather than "universal". The problem is, on proprietary motherboards in proprietary cases, they usually are not. They CAN be, but mostly, they are not, because the OEMs don't want you putting other hardware in their cases or using their hardware in other cases. I'm sure there are other reasons behind it as well, not least of which might be related to having to pay royalties of some kind to use the standard.

ATX has been around so long that you'd think that would be gone by now but who knows.

Much like ASUS not using the terminology XMP for their memory configuration profiles in the BIOS, and instead using DOCP, and AMD using AMP, so as not to have to pay Intel royalties for the use of XMP (Extreme memory profile). A lot of things are OFTEN about money.

Do me a favor and flip the board over so that the bottom is facing up and then take a picture of the whole board so I can see where all of the standoff holes are located. Then, take a picture of the back edge of the board where the I/O and PCI slots are, to get an idea of that as well. Also, if there is a model printed on the board, post a pic of that too. I'm sure it's different, but I'll verify visually to be certain.
 
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Darkbreeze said:
For aftermarket motherboards, yes, the I/O panels for most of them are exactly the same. They are a "standard", rather than "universal". The problem is, on proprietary motherboards in proprietary cases, they usually are not. They CAN be, but mostly, they are not, because the OEMs don't want you putting other hardware in their cases or using their hardware in other cases. I'm sure there are other reasons behind it as well, not least of which might be related to having to pay royalties of some kind to use the standard.

ATX has been around so long that you'd think that would be gone by now but who knows.

Much like ASUS not using the terminology XMP for their memory configuration profiles in the BIOS, and instead using DOCP, and AMD using AMP, so as not to have to pay Intel royalties for the use of XMP (Extreme memory profile). A lot of things are OFTEN about money.

Do me a favor and flip the board over so that the bottom is facing up and then take a picture of the whole board so I can see where all of the standoff holes are located. Then, take a picture of the back edge of the board where the I/O and PCI slots are, to get an idea of that as well. Also, if there is a model printed on the board, post a pic of that too. I'm sure it's different, but I'll verify visually to be certain.
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Thanks mate. Here are the pics
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The size of the board is not what matters. You could have a 24x24 motherboard with fifteen different mounting hole patterns, none of which would fit a standoff scheme not intended for that mounting hole pattern.

HOWEVER, looking at yours it seems the same pattern as microATX except it is missing one hole, so it should be ok AS LONG AS you do not fail to remove (Or not install in the first place) the other lower right hand side standoff that there is no corresponding hole for on your motherboard. Because if you put a standoff in that location on the motherboard tray it WILL be touching something it shouldn't be on the bottom of the motherboard and you WILL be likely to short something out. So don't put a standoff in any of the motherboard tray locations that does not exactly match with your motherboard.

As for the alignment of the back I/O and PCI slots, I can't tell anything from those pics but the fact that the mounting holes line up tells me you have a very good shot at that also being ok. That just leaves the ATX adapter which you already know about.

The other thing that might be a concern is the power, reset, front LEDs (IF equipped) etcetera, coming from the front panel. If your board has a similar cluster of pins for the front I/O connections as an aftermarket board, then it's fine. If it has a proprietary connection to the front panel because it's a Lenovo case it came out of, and not an aftermarket one, you may need to find an adapter or terminate the individual wires with singular pin sockets in order to connect up the front I/O connections on the new case to that motherboard. If it already has individual connectors coming to it, then it should be fine.
 
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Darkbreeze said:
The size of the board is not what matters. You could have a 24x24 motherboard with fifteen different mounting hole patterns, none of which would fit a standoff scheme not intended for that mounting hole pattern.

HOWEVER, looking at yours it seems the same pattern as microATX except it is missing one hole, so it should be ok AS LONG AS you do not fail to remove (Or not install in the first place) the other lower right hand side standoff that there is no corresponding hole for on your motherboard. Because if you put a standoff in that location on the motherboard tray it WILL be touching something it shouldn't be on the bottom of the motherboard and you WILL be likely to short something out. So don't put a standoff in any of the motherboard tray locations that does not exactly match with your motherboard.

As for the alignment of the back I/O and PCI slots, I can't tell anything from those pics but the fact that the mounting holes line up tells me you have a very good shot at that also being ok. That just leaves the ATX adapter which you already know about.

The other thing that might be a concern is the power, reset, front LEDs (IF equipped) etcetera, coming from the front panel. If your board has a similar cluster of pins for the front I/O connections as an aftermarket board, then it's fine. If it has a proprietary connection to the front panel because it's a Lenovo case it came out of, and not an aftermarket one, you may need to find an adapter or terminate the individual wires with singular pin sockets in order to connect up the front I/O connections on the new case to that motherboard. If it already has individual connectors coming to it, then it should be fine.
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So basically I got really lucky with everything on the board? I should be good to go except I might need a new adapters?
 
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I think so. Can you post a pic of the part of the board where the connections from the front of the Lenovo case were connected, AND the connections from the case itself?
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Here are the pics of all the connections I think. The pic of all the jumbled cables, the yellow and orange ones are coming out of the usb ports on front.
 
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Near the corner where the red sata connectors are there is a fitting labeled f panel.
That is where your front panel lead goes.
I think it might be the yellow one you have in your hand.

You would do well to test all of this outside of the case first.
If necessary, you can figure out the front panel connectors by trial and error.
No harm will be done if you get it wrong.
The power switch pair are not polarity sensitive.
Try touching adjacent pairs with a flat blade screwdriver to get the motherboard to start.
LED will be polarity sensitive. if your led for power or hdd does not light, reverse the leads.

The board has a H81 chipset so I think it will be very standard.
 
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Yeah, I don't see the connectors that come from the case and go to the front panel (F-panel) pins though. The rest I think you can sort out later, and shouldn't be too hard, and probably the F-panel connections from the new case should be able to work on that fpanel pin cluster as well although I'm not sure I see any descriptions labeled for them on the board so the original one was probably a single plug that went there rather than multiple single pin connectors like aftermarket systems. Might take a little figuring to determine what goes where on that part.
 
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