Question CPU frequency way too high - Overheating ?

Nov 26, 2021
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Hello there,

2 month ago, I brought an MSI prebuilt with an I9-11900k, nd I had serious overheating problems when gaming online. without getting into details, it went worse, then it went much better and lately, it is slightly problematic again but not consistetly.
Yes, I should probably replace my cooling solution, definitely, but I noticed something recently, and that is that the frequency of each core of the processor is going around 4700 to 5100 mhz. I am not a pro in pc but the isn't it a bit (way too) high ? on msi center, the frequncy is said to be at 40% of it's max, but still souldn't it be around 3300 without overclocking ?

And by the way, as far as I know, I am not overclocking, I never enabled it though.
 

Lutfij

Titan
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Can you parse the model for the MSI prebuilt machine? Chances are that you may not have that many options in terms of aftermarket parts for said prebuilt, if it's a SFF system. BIOS version for your prebuilt at the time of writing?
 
Nov 26, 2021
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It is an MSI infinite 11x, I don t know how to check my bios version if you can tell me ?

By the way, I went into my power plan and lowered the max usage to 80% (a bit radical but it was to test) now My temps do not go above 50degree while gaming ! (the same conditions I was reaching 70 to 80+ with 90 degree this morning), while still keeping a solid 60 fps ( I capped the fps to 60 when I first encountered my overheating problems, that was the only solution I've found, didn't tried to uncap it since)

What are the cons of capping my cpu usage like this ? Overall, If I put all the pieces together, My cpu is way too powerfull for my cooling method, but until I can change it, what else can I do ?
 

geofelt

Titan
I think you are OK.
The 4700 and 5100 numbers are likely a turbo and would apply to only a couple of cores, and last only as long as the thermals permit.
Run Hwmonitor and look at the minimum and maximum temperatures.
The minimum should be 10-15c. over ambient if the cooler is working well.
If you see a max of 100c. it means you have throttled due to temperature.
But, with no crash, that is not all bad.

Use the balanced performance plan.
I see no cons with capping the cpu % You could experiment with higher.
I suspect99% would work just as well.
Also set the minimum to perhaps 20%.
That will reduce the multiplier and voltage when there is little to do.
 
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Thanks, I had one BSOD the first time I had those overheating problem (about 3 weeks ago) and it went away when I capped my fps.

Now I have uncapped my fps and put the cpu limiter to 99% and I can finally run my games at 165 fps without ever going above 70 degree (in fact it is a rock steady 67 degree under load). It seems that it was the cause. Though I don't understand why it is going into turbo constently like this if I don't cap, since I didn't allow any overclocking function so far.

I'll be sure to be careful if I want to replace anything. Honestly I m just happy I've found a fix for this. I am more into lifetime than performance so even if I can't reach 5.1ghz, as long as my cpu don't die in a year, I am happy.

Last question if possible : So I went into my powerplan and first, I found that windows configuration was in ultimate performances, which was making mu cpu run at 100 at all time, no matter the task. Now I am in balanced with the settings said above, but even when I am at idle, my gpu frequency goes from the min 5% (around 800 mhz) to the max (around 3400 mhz) frequently. Shouldn't it be at the minimum when I don't do anything ? (not even moving the mouse)
 

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