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MikeC88

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I noticed my CPU was getting hot and crashing programs and my computer so I decided to get some new paste and that fixed part of the issue but it's still running a bit hotter under load than I would like. Its usually over 80 degrees under load, it's hit 90 a couple times but I'm still worried it might be a bit hot to consistently be sitting at that temp under load.

The CPU is a Intel Core i5-13600K - Core i5 13th Gen Raptor Lake 14-Core (6P+8E) 3.5 GHz LGA 1700 125W Intel UHD Graphics 770 Desktop Processor - BX8071513600K, the cooler is a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2 CPU Air Cooler with SickleFlow 120, PWM Fan, Direct Contact Technology, 4 copper Heat Pipes for AMD Ryzen/Intel LGA1700/1200/1151
And I bought some thermal paste off Amazon for around $15.99.

Any tips or suggestions would be great.
 
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thestryker
If you're worried about those temperatures you're going to need a better CPU cooler. What you have is probably okay for the 13600K at stock settings, but it's basically minimum viable.

Assuming there's enough room in your case this is the best of the inexpensive good dual tower coolers on amazon right now: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DMVZ3YQ7
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The CPU is a Intel Core i5-13600K
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the cooler is a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2
You have the wrong cooler for the job.

And I bought some thermal paste off Amazon for around $15.99.
What thermal paste did you buy?

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thestryker said:
If you're worried about those temperatures you're going to need a better CPU cooler. What you have is probably okay for the 13600K at stock settings, but it's basically minimum viable.

Assuming there's enough room in your case this is the best of the inexpensive good dual tower coolers on amazon right now: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DMVZ3YQ7
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That is what I was wondering, cool I bought it. Thanks for your help!
 
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MikeC88 said:
The CPU is a Intel Core i5-13600K
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Your CPU could boost up to 181W.
https://www.techreviewer.com/tech-specs/intel-13600k-tdp/#what-is-tdp


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In the comments section of this review, the figure 150W is mentioned as the maximum cooling ability for the Hyper 212 EVO V2.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-v2#xenforo-comments-3654272
"It is an undeniable fact that a Hyper 212 EVO black edition is a 150W TDP cooler"

Unlike Noctua's web site which quotes how much power their coolers can dissipate, I haven't managed to find the TDP of the 212 on the Cooler Master web site, but 150W sounds about right.

@thestryker mentioned the Peerless Assassin which I've used in two rigs. I've also installed the much more expensive Noctua NH-D14 and NH-D15 in other systems, but the Thermalright Peerless Assassin (6-heatpipes) and Phantom Spirit (7-heatpipes) are equally good at a fraction of the price.

MikeC88 said:
Its usually over 80 degrees under load, it's hit 90 a couple times
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The 13600K should be good up to 100°C, at which point thermal throttle protection will kick in. I'm not 100% convinced your crashes are due to overheating. What PSU do you have? How many VRM stages on the mobo? XMP settings, etc.

I've run my 7950X in the high 80's and low 90's Centigrade for 36 hours on a long video render and my processor's max temp rating is 5 degrees lower at 95°C. With a decent PSU, good cooling, adequate VRMs and sensible XMP speeds, your system should be stable during stress tests, which are more taxing than most ordinary tasks.

I'd definitely consider upgrading your 212 to big air or 240mm+ AIO.
 
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Misgar said:
Your CPU could boost up to 181W.
https://www.techreviewer.com/tech-specs/intel-13600k-tdp/#what-is-tdp


intel-13600k-tdp.webp


In the comments section of this review, the figure 150W is mentioned as the maximum cooling ability for the Hyper 212 EVO V2.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-v2#xenforo-comments-3654272
"It is an undeniable fact that a Hyper 212 EVO black edition is a 150W TDP cooler"

Unlike Noctua's web site which quotes how much power their coolers can dissipate, I haven't managed to find the TDP of the 212 on the Cooler Master web site, but 150W sounds about right.

@thestryker mentioned the Peerless Assassin which I've used in two rigs. I've also installed the much more expensive Noctua NH-D14 and NH-D15 in other systems, but the Thermalright Peerless Assassin (6-heatpipes) and Phantom Spirit (7-heatpipes) are equally good at a fraction of the price.


The 13600K should be good up to 100°C, at which point thermal throttle protection will kick in. I'm not 100% convinced your crashes are due to overheating. What PSU do you have? How many VRM stages on the mobo? XMP settings, etc.

I've run my 7950X in the high 80's and low 90's Centigrade for 36 hours on a long video render and my processor's max temp rating is 5 degrees lower at 95°C. With a decent PSU, good cooling, adequate VRMs and sensible XMP speeds, your system should be stable during stress tests, which are more taxing than most ordinary tasks.

I'd definitely consider upgrading your 212 to big air or 240mm+ AIO.
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When I applied some new paste it hasn't crashed since and the thermals went down a little to high 80's. I tried turning on XMP but it won't boot when I do, my clock speeds on my RAM are already good so I haven't bothered, one problem at a time lol.

Also everything else was running fine on the system up to that particular point when it seemed to be getting a little too hot. My PSU is an 850 Corsair Gold, have a hard time thinking that is the issue since before the games were crashing and stuttering and the a couple full system crashes. I ran a few scans on the SSD and the memory with no errors coming back.
 
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MikeC88 said:
My PSU is an 850 Corsair Gold, have a hard time thinking that is the issue
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Corsair is a good brand, but Gold is merely the efficiency rating and 850 is the claimed maximum power output. We don't know what model it is, or how old.

For example, if it's an old HX series unit from 2010, it's well outside its warranty period.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/tvpcpt/should_i_upgrade_my_12_year_old_power_supply/

Other 850W Corsairs include the AX850, RM850x, RM850e, RM850x Shift.

The only time I repaste my CPUs is when I'm replacing the heatsink or upgrading the CPU.

My 7950X has been running for 2 years 6 months without removing the NH-D15 or changing the TIM My 3800X with an NH-D14 has been running for 5 years 8 months undisturbed. Both Noctua coolers are dual tower twin fan, similar to the Thermalright coolers.

I still think your 212 is a bit weak and you'd benefit from a better cooler such as the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE. Alternatively consider a 240mm AIO.

This is your current cooler.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-v2

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Contrast your EVO's 4-heatpipes and single fan with the Phantom's 7-heatpipes and twin fans. The Thermalright is only $35.90 on Amazon.com. Just check your case is tall enough for the height of the 120 SE.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-review



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This web site shows the performance of the 212 against the Phantom at various CPU power levels and fan speed settings.
https://pcanalytics.com/product/coo...r-212-evo/thermalright/phantom-spirit-120-se/

At the end it states:-

"The graph ... covers the sound normalized results under the "130W - Overclocked" testing scenario using the Ryzen 7 5800X. When reviewing the below chart, the Phantom Spirit 120 SE has better cooling performance across all comparable noise levels. The peak difference is observed at 34 dBa, with a difference of 7℃. Alternatively, the smallest difference is observed at 41 dBa where we see a difference of 4℃."

From this I conclude you could see a temperature reduction of roughly 4℃ to 7℃ if you replace the 212 with the Phantom.
 
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Misgar said:
Corsair is a good brand, but Gold is merely the efficiency rating and 850 is the claimed maximum power output. We don't know what model it is, or how old.

For example, if it's an old HX series unit from 2010, it's well outside its warranty period.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/tvpcpt/should_i_upgrade_my_12_year_old_power_supply/

Other 850W Corsairs include the AX850, RM850x, RM850e, RM850x Shift.

The only time I repaste my CPUs is when I'm replacing the heatsink or upgrading the CPU.

My 7950X has been running for 2 years 6 months without removing the NH-D15 or changing the TIM My 3800X with an NH-D14 has been running for 5 years 8 months undisturbed. Both Noctua coolers are dual tower twin fan, similar to the Thermalright coolers.

I still think your 212 is a bit weak and you'd benefit from a better cooler such as the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE. Alternatively consider a 240mm AIO.

This is your current cooler.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-v2

51o17eLuFkL._AC_SL1000_.jpg



Contrast your EVO's 4-heatpipes and single fan with the Phantom's 7-heatpipes and twin fans. The Thermalright is only $35.90 on Amazon.com. Just check your case is tall enough for the height of the 120 SE.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-review



71AnMXLdNcL._SL1500_.jpg


This web site shows the performance of the 212 against the Phantom at various CPU power levels and fan speed settings.
https://pcanalytics.com/product/coo...r-212-evo/thermalright/phantom-spirit-120-se/

At the end it states:-

"The graph ... covers the sound normalized results under the "130W - Overclocked" testing scenario using the Ryzen 7 5800X. When reviewing the below chart, the Phantom Spirit 120 SE has better cooling performance across all comparable noise levels. The peak difference is observed at 34 dBa, with a difference of 7℃. Alternatively, the smallest difference is observed at 41 dBa where we see a difference of 4℃."

From this I conclude you could see a temperature reduction of roughly 4℃ to 7℃ if you replace the 212 with the Phantom.
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CORSAIR RMx Series (2021) RM850x CP-9020200-NA 850 W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply

Also, I replaced the paste because I originally changed the mobo and didn't have paste before so didn't change what was left on the CPU - it definitely helped. I already purchased the cooler that was linked through Amazon before by the previous poster.
 
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Cna anybody explain to me why my CPU is getting so stressed but my GPU remains at a very low clock rate? Its a RTX 4070 Ti but it seems like my CPU will be going at 80% and around 4000mhz but my GPU will be barley breaking 800 and this is in games.
 
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MikeC88 said:
Cna anybody explain to me why my CPU is getting so stressed but my GPU remains at a very low clock rate? Its a RTX 4070 Ti but it seems like my CPU will be going at 80% and around 4000mhz but my GPU will be barley breaking 800 and this is in games.
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What are you using to view these numbers? If it's task manager they're not valid.

These are good for video card statistics:
Afterburner
GPU-Z

This is good for deep system details:
HWiNFO

This is a much more easy to parse straight forward system information, but sometimes the sensor reading can be off:
HWMonitor
 
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MikeC88 said:
Cna anybody explain to me why my CPU is getting so stressed but my GPU remains at a very low clock rate?
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Perhaps because the programs you're running don't stress the GPU?

Run a Handbrake video conversion with GPU support disabled and it should push your CPU up over 90% use. Run a Furmark stress test and it'll hammer your GPU.

On some video encodes, my CPU dissipates 170 to 190W and my RTX 4070 draws up to 200W, but it all depends on what algorithm I'm using.

Not all programs stress the CPU and the GPU at the same time.
 
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CORSAIR TM30 Performance Thermal Paste, CT-9010001-WW.

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Brand: SYY
4.64.6 out of 5 stars(14,182)

Thermal Paste, SYY 4G with Toolkit CPU Paste Thermal Compound Paste Heatsink for IC/Processor/CPU/All Coolers, Carbon Based High Performance, Thermal Interface Material​



Will the difference be big? My double heatsink just came in and have to wait a few for the paste. I have the SYY Brand and the Corsair coming in the mail.

Let me know before I put the new sink on please and thanks!!
 
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MikeC88 said:
CORSAIR TM30 Performance Thermal Paste, CT-9010001-WW.

Vs.


Brand: SYY
4.64.6 out of 5 stars(14,182)

Thermal Paste, SYY 4G with Toolkit CPU Paste Thermal Compound Paste Heatsink for IC/Processor/CPU/All Coolers, Carbon Based High Performance, Thermal Interface Material​



Will the difference be big? My double heatsink just came in and have to wait a few for the paste. I have the SYY Brand and the Corsair coming in the mail.

Let me know before I put the new sink on please and thanks!!
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I would not expect a big difference. Just use what comes with the cooler.
 
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MikeC88 said:
CORSAIR TM30 Performance Thermal Paste, CT-9010001-WW.

Vs.


Brand: SYY
4.64.6 out of 5 stars(14,182)

Thermal Paste, SYY 4G with Toolkit CPU Paste Thermal Compound Paste Heatsink for IC/Processor/CPU/All Coolers, Carbon Based High Performance, Thermal Interface Material​



Will the difference be big? My double heatsink just came in and have to wait a few for the paste. I have the SYY Brand and the Corsair coming in the mail.

Let me know before I put the new sink on please and thanks!!
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Which paste came with the heatsink?

TF7/8/9 are all plenty good enough. The only type of paste I'd consider worthwhile to get over those are something long lasting like Arctic MX-6 or Thermal Grizzly Duronaut. If you're looking for optimal cooling a phase change pad is the way to go. Those are all Honeywell PTM7950 based so you can look for that as some companies sell it retail otherwise Thermalright Heilos pads are the same thing.
 
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thestryker said:
Which paste came with the heatsink?

TF7/8/9 are all plenty good enough. The only type of paste I'd consider worthwhile to get over those are something long lasting like Arctic MX-6 or Thermal Grizzly Duronaut. If you're looking for optimal cooling a phase change pad is the way to go. Those are all Honeywell PTM7950 based so you can look for that as some companies sell it retail otherwise Thermalright Heilos pads are the same thing.
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Not sure yet. Im at work just got delivery notification, let me check the brand.
 
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