[SOLVED] CPU/GPU Upgrade compatible with PC?

[basel.radoin]

So...

My PC is bad:

i5 7400
Gtx 1050ti
16GB DDR4
Asus Prime B250M-A
500W Supply

And I want to upgrade my CPU and my GPU.
After I searched the internet for those two components I've found:

The Gtx 1070ti and an i7 7700k (I dont have the money to buy the latest components)

1. Can I buy those two and run them perfectly on my system or do I need to update my bios (0602)?

2. Do you guys know other CPUs or GPUs that will cost less and are better than those two?

3. Is it really necessary to upgrade my CPU?

I'm thankful for every answer but note that I'm not a techfreak 😉

Edit: The system should run 2018 games at 60fps on medium/high settings

 

[elbert]

The quad i7 7700k would cost more than quad core 8350k with a motherboard. Include which ever heat sink you plan to use on the 7700k with this. The 7700K will cost almost $400 new. Even used you probably will spend $250 so get a lower price B360. Either way tho atleast you would still have an upgrade by changing the motherboard. Your old DDR4 should work without problem.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8350K 4 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z390-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($130.72 @ Newegg)
Total: $299.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-23 11:30 EST-0500


Here is the price new for the 7700k just as an example.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($385.00 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $385.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-23 11:33 EST-0500

On the video card you could get the RT 2060 thats right around the same speed and also has ray trace.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card ($349.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $349.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-23 11:41 EST-0500

 

[basel.radoin]

Thank you.

I didnt even had a motherboard upgrade on my mind but if I could save some money than I think this would be good.
Do I have to just put the new processor into my new mobo or do I have to update Bios first?

 

[elbert]

Just put the new CPU into the new Z390 as its compatible with even the 9000 series 8 cores. Refresh to see the RTX 2060 that is on par with the 1070ti.

 

[basel.radoin]

But the 1070ti has 8gb vram and the rtx 2060 only 6gb..?

 

[King_V]

Actually, I would suggest trying out the video card upgrade first. That said, basel, what is the resolution and refresh rate of your monitor?

elbert - I agree with the combination of the newer chip and motherboard. At first I was going to object to the i3, but then I figured where you were going with the clock speed, notably faster than basel's existing 7400.

That said, would an extra $25-30 be worth it for the two extra cores/threads of an i5-8400? I mean, sure the base clock is only 3.1 on that, but the boost clocks are 4.1 (5 or 6 cores), 4.2 (2-4 cores), and 4.3 (single core), pushing it even a slight bit faster than the 8350k.

Still, I don't know if for 2018 era games, how many would be helped by the 2 extra cores.

EDIT: being a K processor, does the 8350K require a separate cooler to be purchased?

 

[basel.radoin]

I have a 60hz Monitor and I dont plan on upgrading it. So you think I should try the rtx 2060 or the 1070ti?

 

[elbert]

Yes but the RTX 2060 just as powerful plus it has ray trace and requires less power by 20watts. The 1070ti would push your aged 500w more is the big reason I suggest the newer card.

 

[basel.radoin]

Okay I will buy the rtx 2060 and will let you know about the results. Im sure it give my system a nice performance boost.

Thank you elbert and King ❤

 

[King_V]

If your monitor is 60Hz and 1920x1080, then I would get the cheapest of any of these:
RX 580
GTX 1060
RX 590
GTX 1660Ti (forthcoming, supposedly)
GTX 1070
GTX 1070Ti
GTX 2060


This is based on you saying that you want to game at 60fps on medium to high settings. Honestly, with the 1050Ti, even medium settings should be doable. The last two or three on the list would be overkill.

What games are you trying to play? How do you know your current system is bad?


Also, I share elbert's concern - what's the brand and model of the power supply? If it's a poor quality unit (depending on who makes it, which specific model, etc) then that would be the first thing I change before anything else.

 

[basel.radoin]

Im currently playing:

CSGO - works perfect
Fortnite - works perfect, only in 50v50 modes i get minor stutter
GTA V - that game is just a joke (played it on a older system with no fps drops than now)

I want to play:
Need for Speed
Assassins Creed Odysee
many more games like that

My power supply is: ATX 80Plus Bronze
And it says that max is 400W.

Honestly I feel like I have to buy everything new except RAM because nothing in my system seems good enough to work with upgraded parts.
That the mistake I made when buying a pc instead of building it myself.

I just dont want to play on medium strictly. I want high quality textures and a mixture between high and medium settings if necessary. But my 1050ti cant even handle Sea of Thieves, GTA or Pubg

 

[King_V]

Im currently playing:

CSGO - works perfect
Fortnite - works perfect, only in 50v50 modes i get minor stutter
GTA V - that game is just a joke (played it on a older system with no fps drops than now)

I am given to understand that Fortnite is badly optimized. That MIGHT explain the stutter. Not sure what you mean about GTAV being a joke. It plays worse on your current system than it does on an older, less powerful system?

I want to play:
Need for Speed
Assassins Creed Odysee
many more games like that

My power supply is: ATX 80Plus Bronze
And it says that max is 400W.

If there's no brand name or anything, I am going to assume that this is a risky PSU to keep using, replace it immediately. I would suggest a Seasonic.

Honestly I feel like I have to buy everything new except RAM because nothing in my system seems good enough to work with upgraded parts.
That the mistake I made when buying a pc instead of building it myself.

Not necessarily - if you'd have built your own, with a 7000 series processor, you'd still be looking at replacing the motherboard in order to get an 8000 series CPU.

I just dont want to play on medium strictly. I want high quality textures and a mixture between high and medium settings if necessary. But my 1050ti cant even handle Sea of Thieves, GTA or Pubg

It might be a good idea to run some kind of hardware utilization monitor that graphs both CPU and GPU usage. It's likely going to give you different answers in every game. However, it'll give you a better idea of whether your CPU or GPU is the more limiting factor, and thus which to go with first.

That said, GPU-wise, I'd then skip the first two from my previous list.

 

[basel.radoin]

Yeah I'm buying the Thermaltake Smart RGB 700W Power supply... should be good enough.

Im starting with the GPU because I can test it first...with the CPU I have to buy the new motherboard Z390...

 

[King_V]

Sounds like a pretty decent plan.