CPU MOBO RAM upgrade - 500eur budget

[thefreshy]

current configuration

Intel CPU Desktop Core i5-4460 (3.2GHz, 6MB,LGA1150)
MSI GeForce GTX970 Gaming, 4GB DDR5
ASRock H81M-HDS R2.0 (s1150,DDR3,USB 3.0,SATA III,DVI/VGA/HDMI) mATX,Usb 3.0 header
Kingston DDR3 1600MHz,C11, 8GB x2
Zalman Z1, USB3.0 black, 2x120mm
Fortron Hyper 500W, 80+
HDD Toshiba P300 1TB, 64MB, 7200rpm, High-Performance


Looking to keep gtx 970 and upgrade CPU /MOBO / RAM for 500 eur

 

[Aeacus]

Got to ask, why would you need to get a new CPU-MoBo-RAM combo while you can just upgrade your CPU? And you already have 16GB of RAM that is more than enough, even for latest games.

Since you have LGA1150 socket H81 chipset MoBo, best CPU that you can put in there is i7-4790 or i7-4790K.
pcpp: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/BRjG3C,6vzv6h/

While you can't OC i7-4790K with your MoBo, you can get faster base and boost clocks compared to the non-K i7-4790. Few comparisons too,
i5-4460 vs i7-4790: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790/2310vs2293
i5-4460 vs i7-4790K: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/2310vs2384

But if you want to go with the latest tech, here's one Coffee Lake combo,
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (€239.99 @ ARLT)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 PC PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€136.91 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€158.95 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €535.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-08 03:57 CEST+0200

Note: with new MoBo, you'll also need new Win license too.

Comparison, i5-8400 vs i7-4790K: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/3939vs2384

I'd go with i7-4790K for faster base/boost clocks over i7-4790 and keep the rest of the money or get a new and better PSU (anything from Seasonic, in 500W range). SSD as an OS drive would also be a good idea. And i'd also switch out the plain looking Zalman case for something better (e.g Corsair, NZXT or Phanteks).

 

[thefreshy]

Got to ask, why would you need to get a new CPU-MoBo-RAM combo while you can just upgrade your CPU? And you already have 16GB of RAM that is more than enough, even for latest games.

Since you have LGA1150 socket H81 chipset MoBo, best CPU that you can put in there is i7-4790 or i7-4790K.
pcpp: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/BRjG3C,6vzv6h/

While you can't OC i7-4790K with your MoBo, you can get faster base and boost clocks compared to the non-K i7-4790. Few comparisons too,
i5-4460 vs i7-4790: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790/2310vs2293
i5-4460 vs i7-4790K: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/2310vs2384

But if you want to go with the latest tech, here's one Coffee Lake combo,
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (€239.99 @ ARLT)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 PC PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€136.91 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€158.95 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €535.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-08 03:57 CEST+0200

Note: with new MoBo, you'll also need new Win license too.

Comparison, i5-8400 vs i7-4790K: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/3939vs2384

I'd go with i7-4790K for faster base/boost clocks over i7-4790 and keep the rest of the money or get a new and better PSU (anything from Seasonic, in 500W range). SSD as an OS drive would also be a good idea. And i'd also switch out the plain looking Zalman case for something better (e.g Corsair, NZXT or Phanteks).

Im liking the i7 4790k, also i have SSD forgot to mention that, and i really dont mind the plain zalman case.

For overclocking this CPU would i need better PSU or is 500W enough?

 

[ben.moon1950g]

Got to ask, why would you need to get a new CPU-MoBo-RAM combo while you can just upgrade your CPU? And you already have 16GB of RAM that is more than enough, even for latest games.

Since you have LGA1150 socket H81 chipset MoBo, best CPU that you can put in there is i7-4790 or i7-4790K.
pcpp: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/BRjG3C,6vzv6h/

While you can't OC i7-4790K with your MoBo, you can get faster base and boost clocks compared to the non-K i7-4790. Few comparisons too,
i5-4460 vs i7-4790: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790/2310vs2293
i5-4460 vs i7-4790K: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/2310vs2384

But if you want to go with the latest tech, here's one Coffee Lake combo,
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (€239.99 @ ARLT)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 PC PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€136.91 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€158.95 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €535.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-08 03:57 CEST+0200

Note: with new MoBo, you'll also need new Win license too.

Comparison, i5-8400 vs i7-4790K: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/3939vs2384

I'd go with i7-4790K for faster base/boost clocks over i7-4790 and keep the rest of the money or get a new and better PSU (anything from Seasonic, in 500W range). SSD as an OS drive would also be a good idea. And i'd also switch out the plain looking Zalman case for something better (e.g Corsair, NZXT or Phanteks).

Im liking the i7 4790k, also i have SSD forgot to mention that, and i really dont mind the plain zalman case.

For overclocking this CPU would i need better PSU or is 500W enough?

You cannot overclock the i7 4790k with your mobo as previously stated.

 

[thefreshy]

Got to ask, why would you need to get a new CPU-MoBo-RAM combo while you can just upgrade your CPU? And you already have 16GB of RAM that is more than enough, even for latest games.

Since you have LGA1150 socket H81 chipset MoBo, best CPU that you can put in there is i7-4790 or i7-4790K.
pcpp: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/BRjG3C,6vzv6h/

While you can't OC i7-4790K with your MoBo, you can get faster base and boost clocks compared to the non-K i7-4790. Few comparisons too,
i5-4460 vs i7-4790: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790/2310vs2293
i5-4460 vs i7-4790K: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/2310vs2384

But if you want to go with the latest tech, here's one Coffee Lake combo,
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (€239.99 @ ARLT)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 PC PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€136.91 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€158.95 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €535.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-08 03:57 CEST+0200

Note: with new MoBo, you'll also need new Win license too.

Comparison, i5-8400 vs i7-4790K: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/3939vs2384

I'd go with i7-4790K for faster base/boost clocks over i7-4790 and keep the rest of the money or get a new and better PSU (anything from Seasonic, in 500W range). SSD as an OS drive would also be a good idea. And i'd also switch out the plain looking Zalman case for something better (e.g Corsair, NZXT or Phanteks).

Im liking the i7 4790k, also i have SSD forgot to mention that, and i really dont mind the plain zalman case.

For overclocking this CPU would i need better PSU or is 500W enough?

You cannot overclock the i7 4790k with your mobo as previously stated.

Right. So would i7 4790k be sufficient for gaming in next couple of years, cause i really dont feel like upgrading every one or two years, thats why im willing to invest into something newer so im good for couple of years.

 

[ben.moon1950g]

Got to ask, why would you need to get a new CPU-MoBo-RAM combo while you can just upgrade your CPU? And you already have 16GB of RAM that is more than enough, even for latest games.

Since you have LGA1150 socket H81 chipset MoBo, best CPU that you can put in there is i7-4790 or i7-4790K.
pcpp: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/BRjG3C,6vzv6h/

While you can't OC i7-4790K with your MoBo, you can get faster base and boost clocks compared to the non-K i7-4790. Few comparisons too,
i5-4460 vs i7-4790: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790/2310vs2293
i5-4460 vs i7-4790K: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/2310vs2384

But if you want to go with the latest tech, here's one Coffee Lake combo,
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (€239.99 @ ARLT)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 PC PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€136.91 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€158.95 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €535.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-08 03:57 CEST+0200

Note: with new MoBo, you'll also need new Win license too.

Comparison, i5-8400 vs i7-4790K: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/3939vs2384

I'd go with i7-4790K for faster base/boost clocks over i7-4790 and keep the rest of the money or get a new and better PSU (anything from Seasonic, in 500W range). SSD as an OS drive would also be a good idea. And i'd also switch out the plain looking Zalman case for something better (e.g Corsair, NZXT or Phanteks).

Im liking the i7 4790k, also i have SSD forgot to mention that, and i really dont mind the plain zalman case.

For overclocking this CPU would i need better PSU or is 500W enough?

You cannot overclock the i7 4790k with your mobo as previously stated.

Right. So would i7 4790k be sufficient for gaming in next couple of years, cause i really dont feel like upgrading every one or two years, thats why im willing to invest into something newer so im good for couple of years.

I personally think that all you should upgrade is your gpu.

 

[Aeacus]

i7-4790K, even if you can't OC it with your MoBo, is solid CPU and will do just fine for years to come.
Here's also comparison between i7-4790K and i7-7700K,
link: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700K/2384vs3647

As you can see, even the best Kaby Lake CPU isn't a lot better than the best Haswell CPU. Though, the best Coffee Lake CPU (i7-8700K) is better since it has more cores and threads than previous generations i7 K-series CPUs.

In my Haswell build, i have i5-4590 and at current date, i can game @ 1080p with high/ultra settings just fine (full specs with pics in my sig).

Though, if you want to improve your gaming performance, the biggest gain is from new GPU, e.g GTX 1070. While GTX 1060 is best GPU used at 1080p, it isn't much better from GTX 970,
comparison: http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/2577vs3639
For GPU upgrade to be worth the money and performance gain, i suggest looking towards GTX 1070,
comparison: http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1070/2577vs3609
pcpp: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=369&sort=price&page=1

While GTX 1070 is best used @ 1440p, you can game @ 1080p without issues. Since GTX 1070 is more powerful than GTX 970, it will last considerably longer before upgrade is due, even if you play @ 1080p.
Here's also a brand comparison if you don't know which GTX 1070 to go for,
link: https://gpunerd.com/guides/best-gtx-1070

For a better decision making, here's a 2 builds comparison, i7-4790K with GTX 970 as a baseline and i5-4460 with GTX 1070 as an alternative (since i don't know which SSD you have, i put in the most common one),

Userbenchmark PC Build Comparison

Baseline Bench: Game 65%, Desk 86%, Work 63%
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K
GPU: Nvidia GTX 970
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB
HDD: Toshiba P300 1TB
RAM: HyperX Fury DDR3 1600 C10 2x8GB

Alternative Bench: Game 89%, Desk 67%, Work 46%
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1070
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB
HDD: Toshiba P300 1TB
RAM: HyperX Fury DDR3 1600 C10 2x8GB

As seen above, better CPU gives you better workstation performance (e.g video rendering) and also better performance in desktop usage (e.g web browsing) while better GPU gives you better gaming performance, even if you keep your current CPU. While upgrading both (CPU and GPU) would be ideal, it also will be way out of your budget range (about €800 in total). So, if you need to pick either CPU or GPU, go for GPU. You can also sell your GTX 970 and get some of your money back or keep it as a backup GPU.