CPU not performing how it is meant to.

[debruijntoran]

My AMD Athlon x4 880k is getting potato scores on CPU-Z benchmarks (221 single thread, 766 multi thread) and I looked online and it says that it should be getting over 5000 on multi-thread. This really confuses me plus it also seems to be bottlenecking my GPU (gtx 1050ti) making games run half as well as they should.

I tried re-installing the chipset drivers for motherboard (gigabyte F2A68HM-HD2) but it didn't make any difference.

Please help, very confused.

 

[Finstar]

That's totally normal for that cpu.
That's an old cpu based on an outdated architecture which is bottlenecking your gtx 1050 ti
For measure: my Ryzen 7 overclocked to 4GHz does 5000 on cpu-z multithreaded.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

This CPU is potato. You can't expect it to be able to run well modern games.
anyway 766 is better than 500 on multi-thread.
and of course you should check the temperature and frequency.
also RAM and memory controller speed are playing huge role in this CPU performance.

And just for the record, CPUs are not bottlenecking GPUs. This is common misconception spread by illiterate hamsters.

 

[13thmonkey]

^5000, not 500.

So what clock speed is it running at under load (actual not target)?
How many cores does windows think that you have, (task manager)?
How many cores does cpu-z think you have?
What temps are you running at, load and idle?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

This CPU is potato. You can't expect it to be able to run well modern games.
anyway 766 is better than 500 on multi-thread.
and of course you should check the temperature and frequency.
also RAM and memory controller speed are playing huge role in this CPU performance.

And just for the record, CPUs are not bottlenecking GPUs. This is common misconception spread by illiterate hamsters.

'And just for the record, CPUs are not bottlenecking GPUs. This is common misconception spread by illiterate hamsters.'

I'm intrigued, please tell me more!

 

[13thmonkey]

I must admit that I missed that gem.

 

[J_E_D_70]

Slow CPU absolutely can gimp the framerate of a GPU. If the CPU has a few cores pegged at 100% utilization and the GPU is running at less than 100% then the GPU is waiting on the CPU to set up frames and not rendering to its max potential.

I went from a 3570k at 100% w/ 1070 at ~80% in BF1 to an 8700k at ~80% w/ 1070 at 100% and gained between 10 and 20 fps, depending on map.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

CPU is handling game engines - way more than providing draw calls. It can (or can not) have the ability to do it well enough.
GPUs are just rendering the picture at required settings.
so in different games (or the same game with different settings) CPU, GPU, RAM and even storage can limit the performance. Should I go ridiculous and mention that 60Hz monitor bottlenecking your experience ?

The components should be in balance for the task, not to each other.

@J_E_D_70
if you changed the monitor resolution to a higher one (or apply highest AA) the FPS would go down, so you'd call your GPU bottlenecking CPU ?
and of course going from 4 cores/threads office CPU to a 6/12 cores/threads will radically change the experience in modern games not only in FPS but also in lack of freezes/stuttering and controls responsiveness. That only means that your old CPU can't handle the game engine.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2773-intel-i5-2500k-revisit-benchmark-for-2017/page-3
have a look at 0.1% of metro last night for any i5. the game would be choppy though that's not the case for even oldest i7 in bench.
If you are talking about BF1, then overclocking your old CPU to ~4.5GHz with good memory speed and timings would give you about the same FPS as i7-8700K. that is kinda proven by i5-7600K which produces about the same FPS as i7s. oooh, wait, that means that GTX 1080 "bottlenecks" i5-7600k !!! OMG.

 

[J_E_D_70]

The 3570k was OC to 4.3. The resolution and refresh remained the same.

Everything you said there reinforces my point - a CPU that’s working as hard as it can and a gpu that’s not is bottlenecked. I hate that term too but thats how folks think of it. And no, it only goes one direction. A maxed out gpu does not impact a cpu’s performance - if the gpu is still producing an acceptable, to the user, number of frames then it’s not an issue.

Edit: OP sorry for derailing your thread. Agree with others that your CPU is pretty limiting in anything modern.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

^^ it means CPU can not handle game engine -> limits game performance.

 

[4745454b]

So what clock speed is it running at under load (actual not target)?
How many cores does windows think that you have, (task manager)?
How many cores does cpu-z think you have?
What temps are you running at, load and idle?

To this excellent advice I'd also suggest making sure you have a current version of CPU-Z. Or test with the same version of CPU-Z that you see online. Speaking of which;

http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-athlon-x4-880k-processor-review-overclocking_187395/3

Legitreviews testing of the 880K shows a single thread score of 1204, and multi of 4470. I'm assuming you were looking at that first result from valid.x86.fr to get the 5k result. User results like that didn't show the clock speed so he might have some OC'ing going on. At least with the review it's running stock. You might also want to try running some other benchmarks. Perhaps it's just a CPU-Z bug?

Swapping hats, I see J_E_D has edited his post. Thank you for understanding J_E_D. Lets help the OP with his issue, and table the discussion about "bottlenecks" ok? He's got an oddly performing CPU. Tackle that problem. Want to rant about CPUs bottlenecking GPUs? Open your own thread and spread your odd beliefs. No need for it in this thread. Got it?

Edit: What that means is every post below mine not related to the OPs issue is gone. Let's keep this on topic please.

 

[bignastyid]

My AMD Athlon x4 880k is getting potato scores on CPU-Z benchmarks (221 single thread, 766 multi thread) and I looked online and it says that it should be getting over 5000 on multi-thread. This really confuses me plus it also seems to be bottlenecking my GPU (gtx 1050ti) making games run half as well as they should.

I tried re-installing the chipset drivers for motherboard (gigabyte F2A68HM-HD2) but it didn't make any difference.

Please help, very confused.

You were likely looking at their old 2015 benchmark numbers.
http://valid.x86.fr/bench/ml8xk6/4
The newer 2017 version is different and the scores are lower
http://valid.x86.fr/bench/4


What games are you running? Whats the per core cpu usage when the game is running?

 

[4745454b]

That would do it. Different versions. Check with other benchmark programs. See if they show similar results. But from Bignasty's link it looks like it's performing as it should.