[SOLVED] CPU overheating - Old PC

radego01

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Hello everyone. 1 week i am trying to solve problem with my old PC (really old) but there is nothing i can do anymore... If the computer is running with 50% of base freq of CPU, everything is fine but when i switch to "default" freq (2.60GHz), CPU temperature going very high while i try to play something, watch videos on youtube and browsing websites like Facebook. This PC is actually using my sister, she is not a gamer, always using PC for work. What is going on with CPU ? Cooler is fine, thermal paste is fine, GPU, Disk and MB temperatures is ok too...

PC Spec:

CPU - AMD Athlon II X4 620 2,60GHz (temperatures are fine while running with 1,90GHz)
GPU - Nvidia GeForce GTX 750Ti 2GB
RAM - 8GB DDR2
OS is running on cheap SSD Patriot Burst 120GB, there is also some old HDD 300GB
PSU (cheap) 450W

If i check taskmanager, there is not any process running in backround. Temperature of CPU when iddle is 50C MAX. Can you help somebody ? Thank you and sorry for bad English, trying my best ♥
 
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I am sorry for late answer but i gonna answer to your questions guys...

-she is using PC just for administrative work, she is teacher in school so nothing hard i guess
-as i said before i never overlocked CPU or GPU, i dont know how to do it and i dont wont to damage my pc because i am not experienced with these things. All i know is reinstall windows, download drivers, ON/OFF PC and play some games, clean up my PC from dust and if i have any problem, i am looking for solution on google
-again, no, i never overlocked. When i was owner of PC, he was used for gaming like 4-5 years ago. This thing start happening 3 months ago without any reason. After first time that PC shut down i use new thermal paste but problem was still here...

madartzgraphics

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In PC is installed "GELID Solutions Siberian ". I just forgot to mention that problem start 3 months ago, one day PC start turning off. Ofcourse i was trying different coolers but problem presist

Did you just overclocked your CPU while there's an existing problem? I know that's stupid but you should not. Viruses can make your PC go overload so do some full scan first because like you've said there's nothing eating up your resources. Have you checked your resource monitor? You can check it out in Task Manager and go to performance and at the bottom there's Check Resource Monitor. Sometimes, a simple driver update or alike can make old computers go slooooooow. You can simply google search the process responsible if you spot one, that'll give you a clue.

Note: I'm running the same platform. If you overclocked it, then I admit dino athlons suck at overclocking and they tend to overheat that much up to 75 celsius, that's the roof it can handle.
 

radego01

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That's a crap cooler. Get a better one.
What did you expect from cooler, that costs €7 ?
Can you read what i wrote before you gonna answer to me ?

  1. Problem start before 3 months
  2. She is using that PC only for work so there is no point to buy cooler for 40+€
  3. Only one core is going over 90C, other 3 are around 68-70C
  4. I was trying different coolers, not only this one. This one is cheap, another one is definitely not cheap and bad one (SilentiumPCGrandis 3) and problem still here
 

madartzgraphics

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Can you read what i wrote before you gonna answer to me ?

  1. Problem start before 3 months
  2. She is using that PC only for work so there is no point to buy cooler for 40+€
  3. Only one core is going over 90C, other 3 are around 68-70C
  4. I was trying different coolers, not only this one. This one is cheap, another one is definitely not cheap and bad one (SilentiumPCGrandis 3) and problem still here

Sorry about that i'm not trying to insult you. We need to know more as your infos are a bit random and gives little hints. There's a lot questionable about this issue as there's a lot of factor that can cause it.
  • what type of work your sis usually does (rendering, editing, etc)? does the problem exist even on a simple browsing?
  • athlons don't need that much of cooling unless you're overclocking.
  • before the problem, are you overclocking or not? dino athlons are not good overclockers. Mine skyrockets to 75 degrees even a little OC.
  • room temperature? have you checked your thermal solutions like paste? 90 degrees is a bit high for that processor.
  • are you sure there's no process running in the background? check your resource monitor after running an antivirus full scan on your computer. Virus can overload old PCs even new ones causing overheating without your knowledge.
 

radego01

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Did you just overclocked your CPU while there's an existing problem? I know that's stupid but you should not. Viruses can make your PC go overload so do some full scan first because like you've said there's nothing eating up your resources. Have you checked your resource monitor? You can check it out in Task Manager and go to performance and at the bottom there's Check Resource Monitor. Sometimes, a simple driver update or alike can make old computers go slooooooow. You can simply google search the process responsible if you spot one, that'll give you a clue.

Note: I'm running the same platform. If you overclocked it, then I admit dino athlons suck at overclocking and they tend to overheat that much up to 75 celsius, that's the roof it can handle.
Nope. I was using this PC like 5 years ago for playing and i never overlocked CPU/GPU and anyway i dont know how to do that. Ofcourse i clean up PC from dust, reaplied thermal paste, check cooler if there is not any space but everyting looks fine i would say
 

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Nope. I was using this PC like 5 years ago for playing and i never overlocked CPU/GPU and anyway i dont know how to do that. Ofcourse i clean up PC from dust, reaplied thermal paste, check cooler if there is not any space but everyting looks fine i would say

Hmmm. that's odd. It's either a virus, age, cooling solution, or just a sneaky process running in the background like an update or alike. You should thoroughly check the software side before moving to hardware troubleshooting just to make sure.

Edit: Buy a good tower cooler, that cooling suck like what @SkyNetRising says.
 

radego01

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I am sorry for late answer but i gonna answer to your questions guys...

-she is using PC just for administrative work, she is teacher in school so nothing hard i guess
-as i said before i never overlocked CPU or GPU, i dont know how to do it and i dont wont to damage my pc because i am not experienced with these things. All i know is reinstall windows, download drivers, ON/OFF PC and play some games, clean up my PC from dust and if i have any problem, i am looking for solution on google
-again, no, i never overlocked. When i was owner of PC, he was used for gaming like 4-5 years ago. This thing start happening 3 months ago without any reason. After first time that PC shut down i use new thermal paste but problem was still here, then try re-paste another 2 times but nothing changed, then i try new cooler but same thing happened
-room temperature is okey, PC case is also opened on one side
-yes i am pretty sure there is not running any process. 3 days ago i paid for Malwarebytes (sorry for advertisement) and also use ESET but no virus

For me is very hard to describe this problem. I will try like this... I turn on PC, temperature is 45-50C, after opening google chrome, watching video on youtube, watching facebook, temperature going up to 60-65, after i close everything it is slowly going down to 45-50C again. If i start play something, temperature is going up from 50 to 90+. In HW monitor i can see that only one core of CPU have very high temperature, other 3 cores are betwen 60-70C while playing game.. If i check power options and i set processor management like 5% and 80%, freq is 1,90GHz and then is temperature of CPU like 40-45 max, while playing it is 75 max
 

radego01

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Anyway - you shouldn't use Gelid Siberian.
But SilentiumPC Grandis3 should be fine (if properly installed).
Try reducing cpu voltage slightly.
You are right, i check many threads with problem like me and lot of people said "lower voltage on CPU" but i dont know how to do that and i think that is the main problem
 

radego01

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Okey so... I was doing a 1min stress test in AIDA64 for CPU and i can see this:

Temperatures:
CPU 55-60
CPU Diode 57-90 (After 90C i stop test)

I dont know if this is any helpful info :D
 

madartzgraphics

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I am sorry for late answer but i gonna answer to your questions guys...

-she is using PC just for administrative work, she is teacher in school so nothing hard i guess
-as i said before i never overlocked CPU or GPU, i dont know how to do it and i dont wont to damage my pc because i am not experienced with these things. All i know is reinstall windows, download drivers, ON/OFF PC and play some games, clean up my PC from dust and if i have any problem, i am looking for solution on google
-again, no, i never overlocked. When i was owner of PC, he was used for gaming like 4-5 years ago. This thing start happening 3 months ago without any reason. After first time that PC shut down i use new thermal paste but problem was still here, then try re-paste another 2 times but nothing changed, then i try new cooler but same thing happened
-room temperature is okey, PC case is also opened on one side
-yes i am pretty sure there is not running any process. 3 days ago i paid for Malwarebytes (sorry for advertisement) and also use ESET but no virus

For me is very hard to describe this problem. I will try like this... I turn on PC, temperature is 45-50C, after opening google chrome, watching video on youtube, watching facebook, temperature going up to 60-65, after i close everything it is slowly going down to 45-50C again. If i start play something, temperature is going up from 50 to 90+. In HW monitor i can see that only one core of CPU have very high temperature, other 3 cores are betwen 60-70C while playing game.. If i check power options and i set processor management like 5% and 80%, freq is 1,90GHz and then is temperature of CPU like 40-45 max, while playing it is 75 max

Yes, somehow im looking at the age side. It's basically 10 years old by this time. The average roof operating temperature for that CPU is 70-75 so basically you're still under that bracket nothing to worry about but you should upgrade your cooling solution to lower that drastically. Anywhere more than that will cause a BSoD or shutdowns so a tower cooler from cooler master or alike will be a good choice. Dino athlon stock coolers, like i've said, suck. I own one, i know how bad it is.

Commonly i hit that temp when i OC from 3.1 to 3.5 so that's pretty unusual to me. There's certainly a cause for that. You should thoroughly check your PC or maybe do a clean format just to make sure it's not the software that's causing it. Can be a soft side or hardware side.

You are right, i check many threads with problem like me and lot of people said "lower voltage on CPU" but i dont know how to do that and i think that is the main problem

You can lower the voltage on bios, just like overclocking. But don't worry it's not that hard. You should watch a few video clips from trusted channels that might help :) Another one you can try is lowering your power plan on windows settings to Balanced or maybe Powersaver to lower your performance.

I would recommend downloading HW Monitor so you can monitor your hardware temps accurately. If it shows CPU temp is 70 there you should definitely upgrade the cooler and tweak your PC. The roof is definitely on fire.
 
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