[SOLVED] CPU question on new build

[Tomchew]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vhjrCb

kinda in the range of 1500CAN for the build, but would it be better to get a new cpu and a cheaper mobo and get better ram or will this one run fine?

 

[velocityg4]

I wouldn't spend that much on a B360 when you can get a decent Z370 for the price. If performance is your ultimate goal. I would get a cheaper motherboard and faster CPU. Also you don't need to spend that much on the RAM. You can get similar RAM for a little less. I selected a better quality case and some decent case fans.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($432.99 @ PC-Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($94.38 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($129.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($88.75 @ shopRBC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.99 @ Powertop)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($659.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: ARCTIC - F14 PWM PST CO 74 CFM 140mm Fan ($9.56 @ Newegg Canada)
Case Fan: ARCTIC - F14 PWM PST CO 74 CFM 140mm Fan ($9.56 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1636.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-05 23:55 EST-0500

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($253.99 @ PC-Canada)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($43.23 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock - B360 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($102.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($129.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.99 @ Powertop)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Black Video Card ($679.88 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.95 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1508.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-05 23:55 EST-0500

 

[Tomchew]

I suppose I should of mentioned it's mostly for gaming, I read in a couple places the i5 is the way to go as i7s don't give you that much more bang for your buck, but which i5 should I get, is the 8400 still that good?

 

[velocityg4]

I suppose I should of mentioned it's mostly for gaming, I read in a couple places the i5 is the way to go as i7s don't give you that much more bang for your buck, but which i5 should I get, is the 8400 still that good?

At 1920x1080 you'll hit slightly higher FPS in a few games. At higher resolutions you likely won't see any differences. Long term the i7 will likely see a slightly longer useful life with gaming. Just as was seen with prior generations of i5 and i7.

As far as i5's go. Unless you get an 8600K/9600K with a Z370/390 motherboard and good heatsink. Then go ahead and overclock it. You aren't going to see much difference between i5 models. That extra $200 would be better spent on a much larger SSD so all your games can load quickly.

Really at this price level. You'll just be nitpicking. Any of these options will do well gaming and variations will just make minor differences. Once you have something like a Ryzen 2600/i5-8400 or better, GTX 2070 or better, good quality PSU and 16GB RAM. I'd be thinking more along the lines of:
- What sort of expansion and ports does the motherboard offer?
- Size and speed of storage devices?
- Noise generated by cooling equipment?
- Aesthetics of the system?
- What will improve the gaming experience? (Mouse, Keyboard, Joystick, Monitor, Speakers)

 

[Tomchew]

How difficult are i5s to OC now, the one I have i5 750 Lynn field was very picky with voltages, I thought I cooked it once but the bios reset and it ran for another 5 years.

 

[velocityg4]

How difficult are i5s to OC now, the one I have i5 750 Lynn field was very picky with voltages, I thought I cooked it once but the bios reset and it ran for another 5 years.

Most if not all motherboards which can overclock have auto OC utilities. They've gotten pretty good. If you want to optimize voltage to maximize the OC/minimize temps. You should still go through the BIOS. That's pretty easy too for basic overclocking. They still have power options for people really serious about overclocking. Which aren't necessary.

Although I've never overclocked the first gen i5/i7. Compared to Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad. A modern unlocked CPU and Motherboard are vastly simpler. My 3570K is a breeze. The utilities have only gotten better since then. Even GPU overclocking has gotten easy.

Edit: By the way. The AMD 3000 series is expected to debut at CES this week. You may want to hold off. Based on expected pricing and specs. These may be a killer deal for your uses.

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

The newer K CPU's DON'T OVERCLOCK very well for the most part. I've had very little luck. I don't trust OC utilities.

 

[Tomchew]

I just waited for the new gpu lineup to come out, maybe I can wait for the cpu one too but what's the major difference between me buying a i5 8400, or the newest i5 9600, I'm probably ly going to have this computer for 8 years or so before upgrading anything major, unless something groundbreaking happens?