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Hello, my Ryzen 5 never seems to never want to go to its base speed when playing arma 3, witcher 3, etc... It just stays on 3.60-3.69GHz despite its base speed which is 3.90Ghz, and sometimes goes to 3.50ghz when idle. The power plan is high performance. Updated my bios and no fix.


Specs:
Computer: MSI MS-7B07
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 (Pinnacle Ridge, PiR-B2)
3900 MHz (39.00x100.0) @ 3723 MHz (37.25x100.0)
Motherboard: MSI A320M PRO-VH PLUS (MS-7B07)
BIOS: 3.E0, 01/22/2019
Chipset: AMD A320 (Promontory)
Memory: 16384 MBytes @ 1466 MHz, 16-17-17-35
- 8192 MB PC23900 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3000C15
- 8192 MB PC23900 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3000C15
Graphics: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 AMP!/Mini
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB, 6144 MB GDDR5 SDRAM
Drive: ADATA SU655, 117.2 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive: TOSHIBA HDWD110, 976.8 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive: ADATA SU800, 500.1 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s <-> USB
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) Build 18363.836 (1909/November 2019 Update)
 
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xray559 said:
The power plan is high performance.
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I don't know anything about gaming or these newer processors but I'm curious as to what would happen if you switched to the 'Ultimate Performance' power plan. Supposedly it pushes the processor to the max. For all the time it takes, it might be worth trying.

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xray559 said:
I don't get it. The task manager says "base speed 3.90ghz" and I have thermal paste applied. And my CPU temp is on 53*c.
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Task Manager doesn't seem to report 'cpu speed' based on actual hardware so the 'base speed' is never accurate. How it determines it is a bit crazy, and it commonly leads to this question:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...lization/f7a880e0-d4cb-498a-8af3-3f30128a7231

Use a utility like RyzenMaster, HWInfo or CPUz to get an accurate reading. But your base clock spec. for that CPU is 3.4Ghz. That's typically the highest speed you should expect under maximum all-core processing and thermal loads but it usually does much higher with better cooling. 3.9Ghz, it's rated boost speed, is the single core clock you should expect in light processing if there's sufficient thermal headroom and motherboard power. In use it will naturally fluctuate between the two speeds as loads and number of threads vary.
 
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You cannot OC on that A320 Mobo, so some smoke and mirrors going on here....

Overclocking Ryzen 3 using A320 Motherboards?

Hi there, It's time to upgrade my old system, but right now my budget is limited. I got myself the Pentium G4620 with the H270 motherboard but I am not happy with it because I do more than just gaming. I was checking out the AM4 chipsets and noticed that the A320 supports no overclocking, yet...
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https://www.pcworld.com/article/317...crucial-differences-in-every-am4-chipset.html
 
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xray559 said:
Hello, my Ryzen 5 never seems to never want to go to its base speed when playing arma 3, witcher 3, etc... It just stays on 3.60-3.69GHz despite its base speed which is 3.90Ghz, and sometimes goes to 3.50ghz when idle. The power plan is high performance. Updated my bios and no fix.


Specs:
Computer: MSI MS-7B07
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 (Pinnacle Ridge, PiR-B2)
3900 MHz (39.00x100.0) @ 3723 MHz (37.25x100.0)
Motherboard: MSI A320M PRO-VH PLUS (MS-7B07)
BIOS: 3.E0, 01/22/2019
Chipset: AMD A320 (Promontory)
Memory: 16384 MBytes @ 1466 MHz, 16-17-17-35
- 8192 MB PC23900 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3000C15
- 8192 MB PC23900 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3000C15
Graphics: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 AMP!/Mini
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB, 6144 MB GDDR5 SDRAM
Drive: ADATA SU655, 117.2 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive: TOSHIBA HDWD110, 976.8 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive: ADATA SU800, 500.1 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s <-> USB
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) Build 18363.836 (1909/November 2019 Update)
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Your base clock is 3.4GHz. It says up to 3.9Ghz. That is best case scenario and you will rarely if ever truly hit this clocks (especially all core) However if you have sufficient cooling 3.8GHz to 4.0GHz all core oc is possible.
 
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In message nr.5 xray559 says that he OCed the CPU....... but.....

A320 chipset does not support OC'ing, only on the RAM can you do abit but not on the CPU, he says he OC'ed it and the answers are telling him how to improve the OC that hasnt happend. The CPU is simply moving in its normal AMD given parameters 3.4 to 3.9, 3.9 is the MAX boost not a base speed and with the stock cooler you will struggle to get that never mind the Vrams getting hot on a budget A320 chipset.

All the answers here are trying to solve a problem that does not in reality exist, smoke and mirriors. Also if his case is not great from an airflow standpoint it could definitely be yet another reason why the Vram temp is stopping the CPU from maximum boost.
 
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digitalgriffin said:
He replied he tried altering the clock multiplier. Can't do that with A320.
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I understand that. I'm just not seeing the "smoke and mirrors" since the motherboard apparently responded by simply ignoring it. As it should have.

It's possibly a lack of mutual understanding of the colloquialism. In my understanding, "smoke and mirrors" refers to illusions that make the impossible seem possible, ostensibly using smoke and mirrors to fool the audience. Everything OP describes seems to me perfectly consistent with what's possible, expected even, with that processor/board.
 
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drea.drechsler said:
I understand that. I'm just not seeing the "smoke and mirrors" since the motherboard apparently responded by simply ignoring it. As it should have.

It's possibly a lack of mutual understanding of the colloquialism. In my understanding, "smoke and mirrors" refers to illusions that make the impossible seem possible, ostensibly using smoke and mirrors to fool the audience. Everything OP describes seems to me perfectly consistent with what's possible, expected even, with that processor/board.
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All good, different interpretations of a topic are common and can also be useful..... wait a sec that's politics....LOL

As for smoke and mirrors..... impossible to OC an a320 but for example one member suggested it is possible "oh ya it is possible to get an all core to 4.0ghz with good cooling...." Just plain wrong and misleading.
 
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Schlachtwolf said:
All good, different interpretations of a topic are common and can also be useful..... wait a sec that's politics....LOL

As for smoke and mirrors..... impossible to OC an a320 but for example one member suggested it is possible "oh ya it is possible to get an all core to 4.0ghz with good cooling...." Just plain wrong and misleading.
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Ah, sorry for mixing "OC" with changing the base clock. I was confused and forgot that my motherboard didn't support cpu oc.
 
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