[SOLVED] CPU Switch with GTX 1080

Mar 18, 2020
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Hi,
I have and b250 motherboard with intel i5-7600, lately I'm noticing a bottleneck that the CPU is causing. my budget 600$ give or take. I want to switch both the board and the CPU. I don't care if its ryzen or intel, just something that will be good for my gaming needs. I have a 2k 165hz monitor although I'm not aiming to hit the 165fps, besides that, I have 16gb ddr4 ram and 550 watt PSU. 600 USD. 256gb SSD and 1tb hard drive, any recommendations? Thanks:)
 
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1440p, 165Hz you could go either Intel or AMD without much difference.
AMD will be a little lighter on the wallet, generally.... but you could spend as little as ~$300, assuming your current DDR4 is of decent speed:

6c/12 AMD
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($94.99 @ B&H)
Total: $294.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-05 18:03 EDT-0400


8c/16t AMD

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG...

Barty1884

Retired Moderator
1440p, 165Hz you could go either Intel or AMD without much difference.
AMD will be a little lighter on the wallet, generally.... but you could spend as little as ~$300, assuming your current DDR4 is of decent speed:

6c/12 AMD
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($94.99 @ B&H)
Total: $294.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-05 18:03 EDT-0400


8c/16t AMD

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($159.99 @ B&H)
Total: $499.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-05 18:04 EDT-0400


(you could drop to a 3700X here and save ~$40 and trade off a bit in clock speed)

6c/12t Intel:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor ($274.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z490M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $409.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-05 18:07 EDT-0400


8/16t Intel, last 'gen', but a great chip:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($399.99 @ Adorama)
Motherboard: ASRock Z390 STEEL LEGEND ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($135.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $535.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-05 18:07 EDT-0400


Up to the full ~$600

10c/20t Intel:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-10850K 3.6 GHz 10-Core Processor ($486.83 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $616.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-05 18:05 EDT-0400




For strictly gaming, either 6c/12t option should be plenty - with the slight edge to an overclocked Intel i5-10600K over the Ryzen 5 3600.

Of course, this assumes your current DDR4 is sufficiently fast. I'd recommend pairing at least 3000MHz with any of the above combos... preferably 3200-3600MHz.

550 watt PSU

What PSU do you have, specifically? With a 1080, you're looking at at least ~400W peak power draw on any of the Intel combos when overclocked
 
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Mar 18, 2020
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1440p, 165Hz you could go either Intel or AMD without much difference.
AMD will be a little lighter on the wallet, generally.... but you could spend as little as ~$300, assuming your current DDR4 is of decent speed:

6c/12 AMD
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($94.99 @ B&H)
Total: $294.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-05 18:03 EDT-0400


8c/16t AMD

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($159.99 @ B&H)
Total: $499.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-05 18:04 EDT-0400


(you could drop to a 3700X here and save ~$40 and trade off a bit in clock speed)

6c/12t Intel:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor ($274.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z490M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $409.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-05 18:07 EDT-0400


8/16t Intel, last 'gen', but a great chip:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($399.99 @ Adorama)
Motherboard: ASRock Z390 STEEL LEGEND ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($135.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $535.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-05 18:07 EDT-0400


Up to the full ~$600

10c/20t Intel:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-10850K 3.6 GHz 10-Core Processor ($486.83 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $616.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-05 18:05 EDT-0400




For strictly gaming, either 6c/12t option should be plenty - with the slight edge to an overclocked Intel i5-10600K over the Ryzen 5 3600.

Of course, this assumes your current DDR4 is sufficiently fast. I'd recommend pairing at least 3000MHz with any of the above combos... preferably 3200-3600MHz.



What PSU do you have, specifically? With a 1080, you're looking at at least ~400W peak power draw on any of the Intel combos when overclocked
Thank you for your reply. The PSU is corsair cx550m, and another question if I’m switching to AMD, will i need to switch the cooler?
 
Compared to the i5-7600, the Ryzen 5 3600/X is more of a sidegrade for anything that doesn't run any better on more than 4 CPU cores/threads. You're likely to get at most a 20fps increase in performance for multithreaded games. The i7-7700(K) is basically equivalent to the R53600.

I wouldn't get anything less than an i5-10600K, Ryzen 7 3800X or Ryzen 5 4600 when the 4000 series is released.
 

Barty1884

Retired Moderator
Compared to the i5-7600, the Ryzen 5 3600/X is more of a sidegrade for anything that doesn't run any better on more than 4 CPU cores/threads.

I wouldn't get anything less than an i5-10600K, Ryzen 7 3800X or Ryzen 5 4600 when the 4000 series is released.

Wouldn't the same be true for even a 10600K / 3800X then? There's not groundbreaking gains to be had with titles utilizing <4cores/threads?

I see what you're saying in terms of maxing sure it's a worthwhile upgrade - but if the OP is seeing a 'bottleneck' (as much as I hate the term), it's either clock speed, or core count, since they didn't specific 7600K

Given the 7600 hits a reasonable (for what it is) 4.1GHz, it's unlikely to be a clock speed concern - much more likely to be core count.

The i7-7700(K) is basically equivalent to the R53600.

The 7700(K) is basically equivalent to the R3 3300X, in gaming.
 
Wouldn't the same be true for even a 10600K / 3800X then? There's not groundbreaking gains to be had with titles utilizing <4cores/threads?

I see what you're saying in terms of maxing sure it's a worthwhile upgrade - but if the OP is seeing a 'bottleneck' (as much as I hate the term), it's either clock speed, or core count, since they didn't specific 7600K

Given the 7600 hits a reasonable (for what it is) 4.1GHz, it's unlikely to be a clock speed concern - much more likely to be core count.



The 7700(K) is basically equivalent to the R3 3300X, in gaming.
Honestly it's a tough call to make right now on what CPU to get with Ryzen 4000 coming soon. I personally would wait for Ryzen 4000 to release before making a final decision. The pricing and performance on the 4600(X) or 4800X may be good enough to beat out the 10600K or 10700K. The 4000 series may not be much faster than the Intel 10k series, so it may not matter and would come down to preference on power consumption and heat. Whatever the OP decides on, they should buy at minimum a 6core/12thread CPU.
 

Barty1884

Retired Moderator
Honestly it's a tough call to make right now on what CPU to get with Ryzen 4000 coming soon. I personally would wait for Ryzen 4000 to release before making a final decision. The pricing and performance on the 4600(X) or 4800X may be good enough to beat out the 10600K or 10700K. The 4000 series may not be much faster than the Intel 10k series, so it may not matter and would come down to preference on power consumption and heat. Whatever the OP decides on, they should buy at minimum a 6core/12thread CPU.

Rumour has it they'll skip 4xxx and move straight to 5xxx on desktop anyway.
But when does it end? First-Gen Ryzen timeframe, the 7600 was still plenty relevant.... by the time 2nd Gen rolled around, it was losing ground. Then 3rd came, with pretty good IPC gains, and yet the recommendation would still be to hold off for 4th Gen / 5xxx chips?

Given the timeframe (2 days until announcement), it's worth waiting. Not to upgrade to 5xxx necessarily, but because AMD typically slash the cost of the previous 'gen' almost immediately.

I still think the 3600 would be a great choice for the OP, even moreso at ~$150 vs it's current ~$200