CPU Temperature - Help!

[Viegaard]

Hello.

I have the following specs:

Motherboard: SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK 1 ASUS
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K (Not OC'ed)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 Hydro Series

When running (CPU) at 0%-6% it has following temps: 42,39,38,39
When running at 100% (Heavy Load used) it has following temps: 76,76,75,76
When running League of Legends CPU Load at 10-20% it has following temps: 51,49,48,54 (going up to around 58-62 some times on all 4 cores)

1. Is this within the normal standard? Should the CPU temperatures for Low Load / Light Use be way lower?

2. Is this within acceptable for 100% Load / Max load?


The computer is 2 years old. Room Temperature is around 18C - The cabinet feels cool and all the fans are running.

Should I be getting way "better/cooler" results?

/ Viegaard.

 

[RARRAF]

It looks very hot too me how old is the H60 it can not be working properly

 

[Viegaard]

It looks very hot too me how old is the H60 it can not be working properly

2 years close to.

Is it the Idle temps thats too high? Or the Full / 100% Load ones? Or the League Of Legends 15/20% CPU load ones?

 

[RARRAF]

I am not at all sure how long they last but your temps are high maybe re-seating it will help I do not know

 

[Viegaard]

I am not at all sure how long they last but your temps are high maybe re-seating it will help I do not know

Which of the three do you feel is too hot? The Idle? The 15-20%, The Full 100% Load? Or all 3?

 

[Tradesman1]

With your ambient room temp, the CPU at stock, I'd be look for idle temps in the 20s, might try reapplying new thermal compound (might have too much or too little), or if really worried about the tempos get a better cooler, a $30 H7 or Hyper 212 EVO will cool better than the H60

 

[Viegaard]

With your ambient room temp, the CPU at stock, I'd be look for idle temps in the 20s, might try reapplying new thermal compound (might have too much or too little), or if really worried about the tempos get a better cooler, a $30 H7 or Hyper 212 EVO will cool better than the H60

How about the Full Load and the 15-20% Loads? Are they damaging to the CPU?

And is the idle temp of 35-42C directly damaging my CPU? (Is the damage already done or can I just buy a new and better cooler and be happy about it?

 

[RARRAF]

what Tradesman1 said should be fine I do think you will of damaged anything a new cooler and you should be fine

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

You probably should be getting better cooling results, but that CPU runs hot, especially if you run a bunch of AVX instructions through it. Your H60 may just be undersized for that chip. Idling in the mid 30's to mid 40's seems pretty typical if you look at enough threads, but at the top end, you want to stay below 80°C on the cores.

 

[Viegaard]

You probably should be getting better cooling results, but that CPU runs hot, especially if you run a bunch of AVX instructions through it. Your H60 may just be undersized for that chip. Idling in the mid 30's to mid 40's seems pretty typical if you look at enough threads, but at the top end, you want to stay below 80°C on the cores.

So it's not directly damagaing to the CPU? Having high idle temps? And is the temp at 100% load acceptable or too high aswell?

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Your CPU has built-in protection against thermal damage that Intel has been using for years. However that doesn't mean you want to go and run your CPU as hot as you can, 24/7. Provided you aren't bumping into thermal throttling (Intel's method for thermal protection) every time you use the machine, you're highly unlikely to ever damage that CPU due to heat. To get the best life expectancy however, it's recommended to keep the temps in a reasonable area. As it was mentioned before, below 80°C under full load. Whether the chip is idling or running at full load will make no difference to whether a given temperature is damaging to the CPU.

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

If your temperatures are fine while gaming, but spikes during stress testing, just refrain from stress testing. Problem with that is, there are plenty of legitimate applications that can run the CPU hard like a stress test. In the end, if fiddling with your current cooler doesn't improve temperatures, Tradesman1's advice of getting a better cooler is your only option.

 

[Viegaard]

If your temperatures are fine while gaming, but spikes during stress testing, just refrain from stress testing. Problem with that is, there are plenty of legitimate applications that can run the CPU hard like a stress test. In the end, if fiddling with your current cooler doesn't improve temperatures, Tradesman1's advice of getting a better cooler is your only option.

Ok. Will the two suggested CPU Air Fans/Coolers make way more noise than the current H60 Liquid Cooling? Do they make alot of noise? Or is it reasonable?

 

[Viegaard]

If your temperatures are fine while gaming, but spikes during stress testing, just refrain from stress testing. Problem with that is, there are plenty of legitimate applications that can run the CPU hard like a stress test. In the end, if fiddling with your current cooler doesn't improve temperatures, Tradesman1's advice of getting a better cooler is your only option.

How do I know if my CPU is Thermal Throttling (doing it alot)?

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

When your CPU thermal throttles, performance ends up 'in the tank,' as the CPU will refuse to throttle up to full speed until the temperature drops below the cutoff point. If throttling still isn't enough to keep temperatures down, the whole system will just power down, but it has to get pretty hot for that.

I have no idea the noise of all the coolers mentioned. I would recommend just doing some quick Google searches for the noise levels of any coolers you are interested in. A lot of sites, including Tom's, reviews coolers and posts most of the details you would want to know.

Tom's 2016 CPU Cooler Review

 

[Viegaard]

When your CPU thermal throttles, performance ends up 'in the tank,' as the CPU will refuse to throttle up to full speed until the temperature drops below the cutoff point. If throttling still isn't enough to keep temperatures down, the whole system will just power down, but it has to get pretty hot for that.

I have no idea the noise of all the coolers mentioned. I would recommend just doing some quick Google searches for the noise levels of any coolers you are interested in. A lot of sites, including Tom's, reviews coolers and posts most of the details you would want to know.

Tom's 2016 CPU Cooler Review

I ran Prime95 (before I posted this thread) and it went up to 94 degrees for 10 seconds and then I stopped the stress test. Will that have done permanent damage?

 

[Tradesman1]

It shouldn't have, no, but wouldn't be running Prime and the like with a cooler that can't keep the CPU cool, it's just asking for problems

 

[Viegaard]

It shouldn't have, no, but wouldn't be running Prime and the like with a cooler that can't keep the CPU cool, it's just asking for problems

Ï ran Prime95 way before asking about the temperatures of my CPU and effeciency of´my current cooler.

When I saw it pass 90C I turned it off right away.

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Some things you might consider with your cooler: adding a second fan in a push-pull configuration so the radiator has a fan on both sides, and also orienting the radiator so the fans act as an input to pull cool air from the outside of the case, rather than as an output for the warm air already in the case. The best temperature you could hope for from the radiator would be the same as the air that is blowing over it, so if your case has a bunch of heat trapped in it, this is going to be the ballpark for what to expect your radiator to be working with. If the ambient in the room is lower than inside the case, that's the air you want blowing over your radiator. The H60 really isn't the strongest cooler, being somewhat middle of the road. I wouldn't be surprised to see the cooler hitting over 40ºC higher than the ambient air it's being cooled with under load. Also, make sure your fan speed is on high and your pump speed, provided that model supports multiple speeds, is also on high.

 

[Viegaard]

Some things you might consider with your cooler: adding a second fan in a push-pull configuration so the radiator has a fan on both sides, and also orienting the radiator so the fans act as an input to pull cool air from the outside of the case, rather than as an output for the warm air already in the case. The best temperature you could hope for from the radiator would be the same as the air that is blowing over it, so if your case has a bunch of heat trapped in it, this is going to be the ballpark for what to expect your radiator to be working with. If the ambient in the room is lower than inside the case, that's the air you want blowing over your radiator. The H60 really isn't the strongest cooler, being somewhat middle of the road. I wouldn't be surprised to see the cooler hitting over 40ºC higher than the ambient air it's being cooled with under load. Also, make sure your fan speed is on high and your pump speed, provided that model supports multiple speeds, is also on high.

Gonna buy a Nocturna D14 - It has good reviews and the decibel is at 20 dBa, where my current Corsair H60 is at 30 dBa. Ive read alot about the H60 and poor performance after 1/2 years seems to be normal, sadly.

And apparantly quite a few H60 users has had the pump sprung a leak and then resulted in damages to all the hardware 😀

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Sounds like a good choice.

 

[Viegaard]

You probably should be getting better cooling results, but that CPU runs hot, especially if you run a bunch of AVX instructions through it. Your H60 may just be undersized for that chip. Idling in the mid 30's to mid 40's seems pretty typical if you look at enough threads, but at the top end, you want to stay below 80°C on the cores.

Is 55c-65c

At 10-15% CPU Load - Room Temp: 24c. Im running 3 x gameclients of eve online. (MMORPG)

So 55-65 at 10-15% with room temp above 25.

Is that alot?