Question CPU update, worth the investment?

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I am about to purchase an updated CPU (RX 5800X) for the system I built about 4 years ago. Below is the current configuration. I have been advised that the upgrade would require nothing but the CPU swap...no changes to BIOS, PSU, heat sink nor any other W11 changes. Is this true? In your more opinion is it worth it for my use profile?

The system is used for some gaming (mostly RPGs - Star Citizen) at the moment, plus photo editing using Lightroom. The goal is to provide a bit more headroom.


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If you can get the X3D, that will be much better than 5800X, else get the 5700X and save some bucks because they both have same gaming performance. I personally think that you can easily get away with this upgrade for the next 2-3 years.
 
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Thanks for the replies. @shad0wboss, I have been advised that the X3D version does not play with non-gaming applications, and I use Lightroom.

Regarding the 5700x, really? Same gaming performance as the 5800X? Its core clock and boost clocks are slower...I don't understand.

@Lafong, My bad; it is the latter, Ryzen 7 5800x, and I just plugged it into the PP tool.
 
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vwcrusher said:
Thanks for the replies. @shad0wboss, I have been advised that the X3D version does not play with non-gaming applications, and I use Lightroom.

@Lafong
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Not sure if that is true:

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But I do see 5800X outperforming in productivity in some other places. So it all comes down to how much lightroom/productivity you use compared to gaming and then you can choose from there.
 
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shad0wboss said:
Not sure if that is true:

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But I do see 5800X outperforming in productivity in some other places. So it all comes down to how much lightroom/productivity you use compared to gaming and then you can choose from there.
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Thanks for that....in looking at current pricing versus the increase in performance, for the additional $100, the performance increase doesn't seem warranted, but thanks for the information.
 
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A 5800X3D is essentially the same as a 5800x in just about every aspect, except the x3D has considerably more Lcache.

If the program can take advantage of Lcache size, the X3D will do better, if it can't, it won't, possibly even doing slightly worse. Games tend to run massive amounts of tiny files, those get held in the Lcache, so there generally is a decent improvement, but most production programs use larger files so may not see much, if any, improvement.

Because of the Lcache size and use, the X3D does run hotter, even at idle.
 
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A 5800X3D is essentially the same as a 5800x in just about every aspect, except the x3D has considerably more Lcache.

If the program can take advantage of Lcache size, the X3D will do better, if it can't, it won't, possibly even doing slightly worse. Games tend to run massive amounts of tiny files, those get held in the Lcache, so there generally is a decent improvement, but most production programs use larger files so may not see much, if any, improvement.

Because of the Lcache size and use, the X3D does run hotter, even at idle.
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Thanks for the comprehensive explanation; again it seems that for the $100 more over the 5800x the cost/benefit just isn't there.


If I may ask, given my current PSU, will adding the 5800x and an upgraded GPU reduce the power head room to an uncomfortable level?


One other question regarding cooler; I am currently using the cooler below-will I need to upgrade or will either the stock cooler or current cooler suffice?


Thank you
 
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Psu headroom is an important consideration.

The 6700xt can spike (less than 20ms) upto @ 320w, general gaming is closer to 220w.

The 5800x is socket limited to 142w max unless you enable PPO or OC, in which case it'll thermal throttle or voltage throttle at closer to 200w ish max.

All the other parts will generally addup to somewhere between 50w-100w unless you go nutzoid on the RGB and fans etc.

Gpu spike + OC + crazy rgb = 320+220+110 = 650w, which a 650w Seasonic Focus Plus will do all day long without a hiccup.

So your general, normal gaming escapades will be much closer to 220w+140w+100w = 460w, which has more than enough headroom to keep anyone happy.

What you did was buy an appropriate sized Quality psu to start with. You just saved yourself the cost of having to replace it.
 
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Psu headroom is an important consideration.

The 6700xt can spike (less than 20ms) upto @ 320w, general gaming is closer to 220w.

The 5800x is socket limited to 142w max unless you enable PPO or OC, in which case it'll thermal throttle or voltage throttle at closer to 200w ish max.

All the other parts will generally addup to somewhere between 50w-100w unless you go nutzoid on the RGB and fans etc.

Gpu spike + OC + crazy rgb = 320+220+110 = 650w, which a 650w Seasonic Focus Plus will do all day long without a hiccup.

So your general, normal gaming escapades will be much closer to 220w+140w+100w = 460w, which has more than enough headroom to keep anyone happy.

What you did was buy an appropriate sized Quality psu to start with. You just saved yourself the cost of having to replace it.
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Wait...so you are saying that I can use my current PSU even though I would be adding the 6700xt and 5800X? Below is the anticipated parts list including the actual GPU I am considering (unless there is a valid reason not to). Oh, and I don't do RGB.


Thanks very much...If you have any comments or suggestions on the parts list I would appreciate it. : )
 
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Yes, you can keep your psu. The absolute maximum the pc can pull is @ 100% of what the rated capacity of the psu is, and that psu can handle that, no worries it'll take upto closer to 120% rated for brief periods, like I said, Quality unit. But you'll never hit that maximum, generally pc's have a hard time hitting over 70% ish of maximum capacity because that involves having every component pulling every last watt available, simultaneously.

It's like you might bench press a max of 300lbs, leg press a max of 500lbs, squat press 600lbs and do 100 pull-ups. You won't ever do all those things simultaneously, only individually, but there may be times when you have to push a car, which is a lot of work physically, but still not use the 300lbs of your arms and 500lbs of your legs.

So a 650w psu with a 220w gpu, 140w cpu and 100w pc, no worries.
 
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